What's the Name of That Book??? discussion

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message 1: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments I am trying to track down a SF book I read I think in the late 60s – definitely before ocean pollution was an accepted fact. I have wanted to find this book again for about 40 years, but it is only since the advent of the internet that I have had any idea where to start.

The underlying theme was that increasing pollution in the oceans, atmosphere, food etc was causing a rapid decline in intelligence. It was written as an American on the west coast – I think a scientist or journalist reporting on the decline in intelligence in countries across the world. At the start of the book the writing was intelligent and well-educated. Throughout the book the writing degenerated until by the end it was very childish and almost unintelligible.

When I first read it I thought the idea of such ocean pollution was a bit extreme, but a couple of years later I started hearing about beach closures in Sydney because of sewerage pollution, and realised how credible it was. It was a fascinating book and made a great impression on me. However it was lost in the many moves of youth and I can't remember the title or who wrote it.
Does it ring any bells for you?


message 2: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 6917 comments Mod
I don't recognize your book Sue--but have you tried checking out John Wyndham's books? He tended to write novels like that. (He's best known for his The Day of the Triffids novel.)


message 3: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments I've read most of John Wyndham's, and it wasn't one of his ... good thought though.
So far noone seems to know it. I suspect it wasn't a well known author - and if I do find it and reread it I may be very disappointed .. :)


message 4: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) Frank Herbert and J.G. Ballard also wrote reactions to environmental destruction - probably not your book but you might want to look anyway....

(Herbert wrote a lot more than just the Dune books.)


message 5: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Sue, are you still looking for this book?


message 6: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments Yes .. still looking. Any suggestions?


message 7: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 6917 comments Mod
Sue--if you bump the thread up every 1 or 2 months, you will stand a better chance of getting it solved.


message 8: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments Thanks for the heads up .. :)


message 9: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Still looking?


message 10: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments Yes. No luck yet. No one seems to remember it!


message 11: by Andy (new)

Andy | 2124 comments This reminds me of Steven King's "The End of the Whole Mess" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_... but since this was written in the 90s, it can't be what you're thinking of.


message 12: by Andy (new)

Andy | 2124 comments Here's the SF encyclopedia entry about pollution http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/.... Is it possible you're thinking of Brunner's "The Sheep Look Up"?


message 13: by Andy (new)

Andy | 2124 comments I think this might actually be "The Sheep Look Up" - here's a quote from the book: "The alleged rise of intelligence in so-called backward countries is ascribed by the scientists who conducted the three-year investigation to improved diet and sanitation, while the as-yet unconfirmed decline in advanced nations is attributed to intensified pollution."


message 14: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments Hi Andy ... Someone mentioned this one to me a while back - I even bought a copy to check. But I'm afraid not. I suspect mine must have been an unknown author who faded into anonymity.


message 15: by Andy (new)

Andy | 2124 comments Sue wrote: "Hi Andy ... Someone mentioned this one to me a while back - I even bought a copy to check. But I'm afraid not. I suspect mine must have been an unknown author who faded into anonymity."

Sorry I didn't get it - check out the SF encyclopedia link though - it might trigger a memory.


message 16: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Still looking?


message 17: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments Yep!


message 18: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54891 comments Mod
A few long shots:
- Don't Pick The Flowers (also: Denver is Missing) (1971) by D.F. Jones?
- The Sea is Boiling Hot (1971) by George Bamber?

Sue, what's the source of the pollution - global manufacturing, nuclear waste, etc.? Is the emphasis on polluted water, air or food?


message 19: by Sue (new)

Sue (sueis) | 8 comments Thanks for the suggestions Kris. I had a look but it's not those. The pollution was general - oceans, air, garbage. I don't remember any nuclear component, just garbage, sewerage, air pollution from cars, manufacturing etc. The main theme was the effect the pollution had on intelligence, as it worsened there was even less attempt to fix the problems and so IQ dropped even further. The author began reporting intelligently on the issue, but became less literate as the book progressed.


message 20: by Norm017 (new)

Norm017 | 158 comments Could it be Brainrack by Kit Pedler and Gerry Davis?


message 21: by A.J. (new)

A.J. | 82 comments Is it 'Pump Six' from this collection: Pump Six and Other Stories?


message 22: by Andy (new)

Andy | 2124 comments Norm017 wrote: "Could it be Brainrack by Kit Pedler and Gerry Davis?"

That does sound promising.


message 23: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28616 comments Still looking, Sue?


message 24: by Scott (new)

Scott It's a short story but could it be The Marching Morons?


message 25: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
How about now?


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