This is Pride and Prejudice in the 21 century.

[Kirby]

Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "I saw more connection with Romeo and Juliet when I was reading New Moon."

That could be because she beat the audience over the head with that comparison earl..."

my online jokes nearly always fall flat...but I got yours! :)

[Ashley]

Anne wrote: " Twilight = a gory, addictive book published in 2005, Pride & Prejudice = a proper, prim read published in, what? Late eighteenth century? Early nineteenth?"

I wouldn't exactly describe Twilight as gory, tame is the word that springs to mind.

Pride and Prejudice is prim and proper because it was written in 1813, thats how people spoke. And isn't it nice? no yous guys, no 'and she was like'. The english language has definitely taken a beating since Pride and Prejudice was written.

[Molly]

Kirby wrote: "Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "I saw more connection with Romeo and Juliet when I was reading New Moon."

That could be because she beat the audience over the head with that c..."

Yes! It makes me stupidly happy that someone got my jokes over the internet. :D

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Ashley wrote: "Anne wrote: " Twilight = a gory, addictive book published in 2005, Pride & Prejudice = a proper, prim read published in, what? Late eighteenth century? Early nineteenth?"

I wouldn't exactly descri..."

No, I definitely LOVED Pride & Prejudice... I thought it was very well written. On the other hand, Twilight isn't. Sorry--I used the wrong word... your right. Gory...No.

[Amy]

Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "I saw more connection with Romeo and Juliet when I was reading New Moon."

That could be because she beat the audience over the head with that comparison earl..."

Sorry - no problem - sure wish there was a sarcastic symbol that can be attached over the internet so one does not make mistakes in interpretation :)

[Molly]

Amy wrote: "Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "Molly wrote: "Amy wrote: "I saw more connection with Romeo and Juliet when I was reading New Moon."

That could be because she beat the audience over the head with that c..."

It's fine. I wish there was one too. It'd make my internet commenting and reading so much easier. :)

[Kirby]

Molly wrote: "I wish there was one too. It'd make my internet commenting and reading so much easier"

hey, let's think of a symbol for it and then propagate it! :)

[Natalie]

Licha wrote: "They will get pissy on you. Anytime someone shouts a resounding NO all the Twilight fans practically jump down your throat! I agree with your POV, by the way."

Hah. You must skim the posts because no 'fan' here has even suggested that P&P was the lesser of the two. None of us have gone against you and have said that Twilight holds the same merit as P&P. So, how is that jumping down your throat? I don't think Twilight is P&P in the 21st century, but I do see where Meyer was trying to immitate it at times. Did it earn her book merit? No. Does it matter? Not really, its just a good topic to discuss. Other than that I agree with you, I just disagree with you in regards to comparing the books together. A lot of people have done this beause Meyer unsucessfully tries to mimic it (somewhat) and fails, so there are a lot of discussions/articles that will compare the two. So, as I still stand the books are comparable whether you want to disagree that P&P and Twi are dissimilar, or similar. I actually graded some good essays this week on how they are similar. As a TA I can't be one sided, so I wasn't going to give the student a bad mark because people like yourself think they cannot be compared. She did a good job at drawing up parallels. On the other hand, I had another student who took your opinion and said how they had nothing in common and he supported it well. When it all boils down It's just matter of opinion . No one is right or wrong. I'm sorry if I came off as an ass or some 'crazed' fan, I'm just very passionate about my job so when someone tells me that we can't compare the two when i just graded four essays that did it's kind of silly. Other than that I do agree with you though that P&P is superior is many ways.

[Licha]

Natalie wrote: "Licha wrote: "They will get pissy on you. Anytime someone shouts a resounding NO all the Twilight fans practically jump down your throat! I agree with your POV, by the way."

Hah. You must skim th..."

Actually, I don't skim the post. I can't get it to stop popping up on my email. I was amused at Anne's comment so I replied to it is all. I pretty much said the same thing as she did. My opinion is just as valid. I am saying they don't compare but yet I get such passionate responses when I say it. I'm not even sure where you're going with your response to me because it starts off with a Hah but then you want to stress that you're not such a big fan of Twilight and that you are ok with people disagreeing that the two books don't compare. Is it because I didn't write out an English essay on here to back up my reasons why they don't compare? You all keep saying that the P&P fans are more defensive but I think otherwise. Other people have posted the same reaction to this question that I have but yet you keep wanting to respond to my posts. You are entitled to your opinion, but I am curious why you feel like I'm somehow bashing Twilight. I am a big fan of P&P. I don't agree that they compare. I have read Twilight and it was ok, at times very slow. But I am so sick of these reactions to it that truly I am beginning to despise the book. Sorry if that's not in agreement with you, but I will never think that the two compare.

[Ashley]

Natalie wrote: "Licha wrote: "They will get pissy on you. Anytime someone shouts a resounding NO all the Twilight fans practically jump down your throat! I agree with your POV, by the way."

Hah. You must skim th..."

I think you make a great point about how you can compare two books together. While I am in the 'dislike Twilight' boat and the 'loving P&P' ship there is merit in comparing the two books together. Thats one of the great things about literature, you can compare and contrast books and gain a deeper reading and understanding of them.

While I would be filled with rage if someone said Twilight was superior to P&P I don't see any harm in discussing how everyone sees the similarities and differences.

[Molly]

Licha wrote: "Natalie wrote: "Licha wrote: "They will get pissy on you. Anytime someone shouts a resounding NO all the Twilight fans practically jump down your throat! I agree with your POV, by the way."

Hah..."

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[N.C.]

Rula wrote: "vampires and werewolves vs. Pride and Prejudice. vampires wins hands down. i have never read Jane Austen's works. i am enjoying reading book 4 of twilight and i don't think that these are whiny bec..."

how you can claim that these books are better than something you have never even bothered to read?

And no, this book is nothing like Pride and Prejudice because Pride and Prejudice is actually good.

[N.C.]

Diane *Ahnnihilate* wrote: "Natalie wrote: "Ahhhh people, stop being so silly and realize that it is deemed to be compared and contrasted. Just because one work (P&P) is outstanding and Twilight is terrible doesn't make it wr..."

Thank you for the gif. It made my day.

[S.L.J.]

Didn't SM say she came up with Twilight in a dream and then her inspirations were Jane Austins books?

If that's true then this isn't and 21st Century version of anything, it's just SM's interpretation of Austins books. More like a crappy Hollywood remake than a reboot.

This is Batman and Robin, not Batman Begins.
It's Pride, Prejudice and Zombies, not Pride and Prejudice.

[Giulia]

I'm sorry. You can't compare these books in these ways. Your comparision is grasping. And sorry, but clearly you have to really study P and P in a lot more depth to understand that novel. First off, Mr. Darcy didn't pay off Wickham and not tell Elizabeth out of shyness. He did that because he felt it was his responsibility to right the wrong he had done to Elizabeth's family, and society by not exposing Wickham for the cad he was!! Darcy, "who knew what he was", felt he had to take a hand in that matter to protect the family of the woman he loved. Of course, he was also motiviated by love for Elizabeth and he thought of how she would be hurt and shunned by society because of her sister's disgrace once Wickham was through with her but shyness never enters into this act. He keeps quiet about it because Elizabeth had already rejected him once and he wanted to honour her choice and just let it all rest.

As for all of you who say you can compare these two books just because they are published works, you obviously have not heard the pharse "comparing apples and oranges". Serious literature cannot be compared with a series that was written purely to entertain and delight. Never will you find any English course in any respectable university comparing these two books. It's insane. So yes, we can say, don't compare these books.

[Molly]

Sammy wrote: "Didn't SM say she came up with Twilight in a dream and then her inspirations were Jane Austins books?

If that's true then this isn't and 21st Century version of anything, it's just SM's interpr..."


It's based a on fanfic of the movie. ;)

And I happen to be very fond of Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies. It's the only way I could get through the P&P a second time.

[Natalie]

Ashley wrote: "Natalie wrote: "Licha wrote: "They will get pissy on you. Anytime someone shouts a resounding NO all the Twilight fans practically jump down your throat! I agree with your POV, by the way."

Hah. ..."

I agree! I love discussing why books are similar/disimilar. Isn't that part of the delight of reading? Finding out what sucks and what doesn't! :)

[Natalie]

Giulia wrote: "I'm sorry. You can't compare these books in these ways. Your comparision is grasping. And sorry, but clearly you have to really study P and P in a lot more depth to understand that novel. First off..."

I agree with your statement apples and oranges. They are different peices of writing in sooo many ways, but that dosen't mean that poeple won't talk about it. People make fun of twilight's pathetic attempt at being P&P allll the time, or how it has similar traits becaue Meyer was inspired by the classics. In reference to academic setting: I TA at a university that has a focus on science, so I will admit they do not have a strong english faculty. It's a hihgly respectable science univ though. Anyways...isn't the fact that people were intrested to state their opinion enough to say it's doable? The fact that people know meyer was inspired by the classics motivates people to look for differences/smilarities. I'm a big P&P fan, so you're preaching to the choir here, but I am willing to accept that people will talk about them together.

[Natalie]

Licha wrote: "Natalie wrote: "Licha wrote: "They will get pissy on you. Anytime someone shouts a resounding NO all the Twilight fans practically jump down your throat! I agree with your POV, by the way."

Hah..."

Oookay, lets get one thing certain once and for all: I am not trying to stress that I am not a fan of twilight! Just because I recognize the flaws of twilight doesn’t mean I hate it.

I never once made it seem like you had to write an essay to agree with me. Technically you don’t have to agree at all. That’s the fun in these discussions. I just used the four essays I graded as an example, not to be an annoying person who demands citation.

In regards to why you asked me why I keep wanting to respond to your posts:…probably because you misinterpret them and I feel the need to re-state it or re-clarify. Not because I’m trying to annoy you or something.

I never said you are bashing twilight. Where do you see this? And, even if you did that would be okay, because you are entitled to your opinion and to like and hate whatever book you choose to.

I am also a big fan of P&P, so you’re preaching to the choir that they don’t compare well. Not that they can’t be compared; I just don’t think the story does not transfer over well, regardless if meyer was ‘inspired’ by it or not.

I am so sick of these reactions to it that truly I am beginning to despise the book
Because other people’s opinions effect the book how…? Don't let my opinions effect your view on the book.

If you don’t think they compare well than that’s a valid response. I’m not sure why you think that I’m so against that. Like I said earlier, I’m open to all opinions. Heck, I even have some bad things to say about twilight myself. I don’t agree that it cant be compared, but I can agree that they don’t compare together well . big difference.

None of my posts meant to be crabby or snappy. So if you thought it was I apologize.

[Ashley]

Giulia wrote: "I'm sorry. You can't compare these books in these ways. Your comparision is grasping. And sorry, but clearly you have to really study P and P in a lot more depth to understand that novel. First off..."

I think it depends what your comparing. I agree that P&P is a wonderful book and I really dislike Twilight I think its hack writing and shoddy story telling.

But you could write an essay comparing the values explored within the texts, ie, wealth, love. Or based on the role of female characters comparing how Elizabeth was a strong female character written in 1813 when women didn't have much of a voice compared to Bella, a very weak female lead in a book written in 2005, a fairly liberal time.

Whether a book is good or bad comparisons could still be made as long as the argument is supported well. I wouldn't use the comparison in terms of recommended reading, I wouldn't recommend Twilight to some one looking for book suggestions after reading P&P. However from a purely scholarly perspective yes I think there are comparisons to be made. Even if in my view they are all about how P&P is superior.

[S.L.J.]

Molly wrote: "Sammy wrote: "Didn't SM say she came up with Twilight in a dream and then her inspirations were Jane Austins books?

If that's true then this isn't and 21st Century version of anything, it's just ..."

I wasn't saying it was bad. I actually liked it, it just wasn't P&P, that's all. I did enjoy it tho and I'm really looking forward to Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter!

Sorry Edward but Abe would kick your ass!

Trailer: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter Trailer

[Giulia]

Weather a book is good or bad comparisons could still be made as long as the argument is supported well. I wouldn't use the comparison in terms of recommended reading, I wouldn't recommend Twilight to some one looking for book suggestions after reading P&P. However from a purely scholarly perspective yes I think there are comparisons to be made. Even if in my view they are all about how P&P is superior.

Said someone above me. Very good point. My personal opinion is that the comparisons made were not good ones, but grasping and based upon no evidence and thin ice. Thus, no comparison at all. If people want to compare these books, fine. But make sure you have a good understanding of both of them.

[Molly]

Sammy wrote: "Molly wrote: "Sammy wrote: "Didn't SM say she came up with Twilight in a dream and then her inspirations were Jane Austins books?

If that's true then this isn't and 21st Century version of anyt..."

Sorry about that, I shouldn't jump to conclusions like that.

I'm so excited for Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, I can;t wait until the theater starts selling tickets.

[Danielle]

Mathis wrote: "What a delight! delight! delight! This book was an enchanting read. Here's Pride and Prejudice turns vampiric in the 21 century.

The story is about a tomboy teenage girl by the name of Bella, who ..."

Please, do me the favor. Do not compare a classic, written by an amazing woman, to this crap-ridden filth-filled, annoying, stupid, pathetic, beef-witted,folly-fallen book. Twilight involves sparkling vampires, a pathetic, depressive junior girl who has no social life, divorced parents, and no street-smart sense. Jane Austen's book was based on the ideals of her time, and besides, if I recall well, she had four sisters and her parents were trying to marry of the first two. The last thing Bella's parents want her to do is to get married to a man who is all money and secrets.

[Amy]

Danielle wrote: "Mathis wrote: "What a delight! delight! delight! This book was an enchanting read. Here's Pride and Prejudice turns vampiric in the 21 century.

The story is about a tomboy teenage girl by the name..."

Geez, did you even read any of the other posts??? This has been hashed out before.

[Ella]

Not at all in any way, is this like Pride and Prejudice. Is Bella supposed to be like Elizabeth? Because they are almost polar opposites. Elizabeth is a strong, independent, and stubborn character. Bella is a weak girl who relies on other people to do things for her. Which one of the boys is Darcy? Bingley? Wickham? You can't relate books that don't have any sort of connection in the characters and that don't have any of the same plot lines.

[Alex]

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