The Mortal Instruments vs The Infernal Devices

[Janina, Daemon fanatic.]

Just for Fun :)
Pick one!

vs.

If you want, tell why.

[Janina, Daemon fanatic.]

I love them both. But I would have to choose..........

The Mortal Instruments series!
Jace, Oh Jace. He is my freakin' love! :)

[Thalia]

Mortal Instruments!

Because...I mean, TMI affected me SO much. I was an empty shell of nothing after I finished the first three books (before it was announced there would be three more). I was completely engrossed, addicted and just drawn into them. It took my heart, my emotions, everything in me and twisted it up and shocked me and made me sob and made me laugh, and it felt like my very soul had been shattered and taped back together.

So naturally, when Clare announced there'd be a prequel series, I was really excited. But I still love TMI more, because in the first book of TID, Will just felt like a carbon copy of Jace, and that really bothered me.

But man, reading Clockwork Prince right now, I still favor TMI over TID, but Will is no longer a carbon copy of Jace, hahah.

[Stephanie (Bookfever)]

The Infernal Devices for me! I just move the victorian era so much. The clothes. The place. The time! WILL! :D ♥

[Passant]

i have not read the TID series yet, but i cant wait,it sound awesome :)

[Stephanie (Bookfever)]

You'll enjoy it! :D

[Astoria]

The Infernal Devices, just because I enjoyed reading it a lot more. And while I love Magnus Bane and Alec, as well as Isabel, I pretty much don't care about Clary.

I loved Clockwork Prince, and while Clockwork Angel wasn't of my taste, it was still better than City of Fallen Angels, so yeah, I hated City of Fallen Angels, almost as much as I loved City of Glass.

Will I read the next MI book? Yes, but just because Alec and Magnus make some power couple. And Isabel is now kind of serious with Simon.

And I LOVE TID series, because Will's great sin is loving Jem, I mean how can I not choose Will, when he has been alone, and letting himself have so little because of what happened when he was 13?

I love Him, and as much as I love Jace, Will in my book, is a better character, that and Tessa's love for both boys will make me crave more. This is a real love triangle.

I mean, I choose Infernal Devices.

[Stephanie (Bookfever)]

Astoria wrote: "The Infernal Devices, just because I enjoyed reading it a lot more. And while I love Magnus Bane and Alec, as well as Isabel, I pretty much don't care about Clary.

I loved Clockwork Prince, and w..."

Nicely said! :D

[Passant]

Stephanie (Loves Adrian Ivashkov♥) wrote: "You'll enjoy it! :D"

thanks :)

[Emilie]

I can't pick between them! Can you choose both?

[Thalia]

Oh goodness. Yeah. I just finished Clockwork Prince. And while TMI as a whole did my damage to my heart, I don't know if I'll be able to even heal in the slightest from what I've just read in the last six hours, alone in my room.

I mean...my soul. Oh my goodness goodness goodnessssssssss.

SERIOUSLY, I SHOULD GO TO BED BUT MY HEART WILL NOT ALLOW ME.

[Emilie]

I know how you feel! You just finished it? Sweetie, you won't be able to sleep tonight!

[Passant]

does clockwork prince have a big cliffhanger? because if it does i would arrange that i would read it near the end of November so i wont go crazy from early on ;D

[Astoria]

Passant wrote: "does clockwork prince have a big cliffhanger? because if it does i would arrange that i would read it near the end of November so i wont go crazy from early on ;D"

Not a cliffhanger, the whole book is just amazing, the book as a whole makes you crave more. I devoured it, and I disliked Clockwork Angel.

[Passant]

Astoria wrote: "Passant wrote: "does clockwork prince have a big cliffhanger? because if it does i would arrange that i would read it near the end of November so i wont go crazy from early on ;D"

Not a cliffhange..."

i think i get what you mean, i think it is the way the author makes the books irresistible and addicting :) at least thats my opinion from TMI

[Thalia]

Yeah, it's not so much a cliffhanger as a "WHAT HAS JUST HAPPENED WE NEED TO FIX THIS RIGHT AWAY OH MY GOODNESS WHATKIWEJURIENHRMNKINV H" sort of feeling.

Emilie, I could fall asleep for like, an hour! By the time my stomach had settled enough to let me sleep, it was like, five in the morning! Some part of me wishes I hadn't discovered TID until all the books were out, like with the first three TMI books. *throws self against wall* I'm like...numb.

[Astoria]

i think i get what you mean, i think it is the way the author makes the books irresistible and addicting :) at least thats my opinion from TMI.

I think TID has the potential to be better than TMI, just because it truly is a love triangle. Is not a girl caring for 2 boys in different ways, is a girl who loves 2 boys, and 2 boys that love her and they also love each other as family. For Will before Tessa, there was just Jem. So its heart wrecking.

[Passant]

damn, it is a love traingle, i dont do well with love triangles, my heart doesnt work well with that especially i get really mad if the girl ends up with the one i didnt want her to end up with, or sometimes not with either, i swear there was this story that the girl didnt end up with either and died a old lonely woman and i was like *curses*!!
better than TMI i m going crazy, i need to read the books ASAP, stupid library!!

[Thalia]

To be honest, Clockwork Prince made me feel awful things.
(view spoiler)[Actually, I dislike Jem so much after reading this book. He seems so entirely selfish, that I feel disgusted that he's cast in the light of being the "good guy" and Will the "bad boy". (hide spoiler)]

[Arushi]

Thalia wrote: "To be honest, Clockwork Prince made me feel awful things.
[spoilers removed]"

So, I take it you're Team Will?

[Nidhi]

I kinda already answered this in a different group..so I like them both LOVE them! The Mortal Instruments more...but the thing is I am more looking forward to the release of Clockwork Princess than City of Lost Souls...argh! Will :'( Jace :O Tessa :'( Clary :S Jem >:(

[Nidhi]

bad boy in a sexy way ;) and Jem will it's not his fault Thalia..nor is Will's...they are caught up in there problems, they just didn't have time to notice anything :( it is awfully sad

[Arushi]

I'm so torn between Jem and Will! 352 pages into Clockwork Prince, and I still can't decide!

[Passant]

Thalia wrote: "To be honest, Clockwork Prince made me feel awful things.
[spoilers removed]"

bad things as you didnt like it? i just finished CoG, it was awesome! i was like so frustrated, happy and anxious in the same time! i couldnt leave the book alone i stayed awake until 7 in the morning to finish it !! i think it is the best of TMI

[Thalia]

*induce Jem-related rant*
I advise you not to read unless you've read CP. (;

(view spoiler)[
Clare always painted Jem to be so completely selfless, to put others before himself. To be gentle and sensitive, and to be Will's protector. Jem was...changed in CP. Entirely different than he was before, starting from the moment he slapped Will after finding him at the drug den. Which, I think, was totally unjustified, considering how awful it was for Will to see his family again.

And then when he has his little makeout scene with Tessa in his room, that was ENTIRELY un-Jem-like. You'd expect something like that to happen with Will. And the balcony scene at the Lightwood party to happen with Jem, because it was gentle and delicate and careful. The room scene was firey, and unthoughtful. Both of them relied on instinct, and it bothered me because Tessa had never thought of Jem in that way, and she was suddenly all over him and him her.

And don't even get me started on Jem "thanking" Will for saving Tessa's life "for him". LKGFNJUMRKCAUHERNJSE8M. "Will, I know nobody can see the good in you and believe that you love anybody more than yourself, and heck, even I think so sometimes, but it could have been anybody in Tessa's position and you would have risked your life for them, but THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAVING HER FOR ME." *rage rage rage*

Poor Will! "Oh yeah, no problem...Thanks for sitting with me when glass was pulled from my back."

"LOLOLOLOLOL WELL, WHAT ARE BLOOD BROTHERS FOR, BUDDY?"
*rage again*

I mean, Jem just had a total character change, and Will became so enitrely selfless and wonderful, that it broke my heart for Tessa to be so cruel to him. To not even give him an answer when he asked if she loved him, if she ever could love him. To accept Jem just because she wanted to kill her feelings for Will, after she had dreamed about being so perfectly happy with Will. It killed me to see him in so much pain, because he was right.

"You see it, don't you, James? Without Tessa there is nothing for me--no joy, no light, no life. If you loved me, you would let me have her. You can't love her as I do. No one could. If you are truly my brother, you would do this for me."

Oh my GOODNESS. Jem never had to fight for people to love him; he was just good natured and everybody liked him. It seems so terribly unfair for him to get Tessa, too, considering how much Will loves her, and, I think, infinitely more than Jem does. Will sacrificed everything for Tessa; Jem hardly does anything out of the ordinary. Will was compelled to change himself, to fight for the ability to love, just because of Tessa. And what does Jem have? "Well, I probably don't have much longer, so is it alright if we marry young and you can be a widow early on in life?"

My goodness, I'm angrier about this ending than I thought I was.

*sobs*
(hide spoiler)]

Passant, no, no, I LOVED Clockwork Prince. I think that's what hurts so much; that I can be so angry about what happened, and feel so many other things all at once, and still love the book so ridiculously much. It's amazing what Clare does to my soul with her writing.

Also, I'm glad you liked City of Glass! A perfect resolution! <3 Honestly, I wouldn't have been upset if there were only three TMI books. CoG was so wonderful and ended so beautifully. <3

[Passant]

Thalia wrote: "*induce Jem-related rant*
I advise you not to read unless you've read CP. (;


Clare always painted Jem to be so completely selfless, to put others before himself. To be gentle and sensitive, a..."

i agree!! near the end, i was confused since i knew there was still one book left and 2 which are still coming out :S and it felt like she was ending it! i was so confused but happy i think if she hadnt done the things she did, i was going to go CRAZY!!
(view spoiler)[ when hodge was dieing he was telling him that jace wasnt valentine's son, but he died! i knew seb. was jonathon while jace wasnt. so when hodge died i was frustrated that for the second time he doesnt get to know who he really is!! my sis was saying i was soo crazy cuz i started cursing loudly with anger!! (hide spoiler)] hhehhe i think CoG affected me more than the rest, it seems that the series gets better with each book so i cant wait for CoFA!!!!!

[Thalia]

Ahh, CoFA was kind of a letdown for me. :[ Since the drama (view spoiler)[of Jace and Clary's ever-so tragic love is resolved (hide spoiler)], she was kind of floundering for a new plot and settled on Simon. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first three, but I love the characters, so I'm not complaining, hahah.

[Passant]

Thalia wrote: "Ahh, CoFA was kind of a letdown for me. :[ Since the drama [spoilers removed], she was kind of floundering for a new plot and settled on Simon. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first three, ..."

so which was your fav. so far??

[Jennifer]

I pick The Infernal Devices. Mainly because I got tired of the Clary/Jace drama. I know there's drama with the Jem/Will/Tess love triangle but Jem is just so addictive. I'd almost say he's perfect. :) I like the era of The Infernal Devices better too, it makes it more interesting.

[Janina, Daemon fanatic.]

Jennifer (Loves Jem Carstairs) wrote: "I pick The Infernal Devices. Mainly because I got tired of the Clary/Jace drama. I know there's drama with the Jem/Will/Tess love triangle but Jem is just so addictive. I'd almost say he's perfect...."

That is one of the reason I chose TMI series because I can't really stand love triangle Lol

[Passant]

Janina wrote: "Jennifer (Loves Jem Carstairs) wrote: "I pick The Infernal Devices. Mainly because I got tired of the Clary/Jace drama. I know there's drama with the Jem/Will/Tess love triangle but Jem is just so ..."

same here XD

[Thalia]

Passant, you know, I really can't pick between the first three! I love the first one, mainly for the rip-my-heart-out-and-stomp-on-it ending; I love the second one (mainly for page, I think, 200? (view spoiler)["When I was a little kid, I realized that if you say any word over and over fast enough, it loses all its meaning. Sister. You're my sister." *dies* (hide spoiler)] And also, of course, the Seelie Court scene that destroys me. But the third one because there's finally some answers and and of course the (view spoiler)["I love you, and I will love you until I die; and if there's something after that, I'll love you then." (hide spoiler)]

How am I supposed to choose?!

[Nidhi]

Thalia wrote: "Passant, you know, I really can't pick between the first three! I love the first one, mainly for the rip-my-heart-out-and-stomp-on-it ending; I love the second one (mainly for page, I think, 200? [..."

damn it women! hahahaha arch they both amazing! settled! argh those both moments I slowly died too

[Passant]

lool Thalia maybe when CoLS comes out you could choose it :)
can u choose your fav. in TID?

looool Nidhi! i went crazy in those times!!!

[Thalia]

Can you believe that I remembered page 200 after all this time, since I first read the book? I always knew page 200 was my favorite page on CoA. <3

Bahh, I don't know if CoLS can compare. But then again, I didn't think Clockwork Prince would compare and well, look where that got me. x)
But definitely Clockwork Prince, so far. Actually, Clockwork Angel was a little slow and boring for me! I felt like Clare was trying too hard to make Will like Jace (because Jace was such a successful character). I didn't have any of those feelings that I usually associate with Clare's stories.

And maybe she took that as a challenge and set it up so that my soul and heart and self would just be totally destroyed by CP, which she totally succeeded in.

[Passant]

hehehe!! so you have a fav in TID but not in TMI, does that further prove that you prefer TMI over TID? because you cant even start to compare them????

[Thalia]

Oh yeah, I know I love TMI way more. TMI had me hooked from the beginning and I couldn't even begin to describe my feelings for it. I actually stayed home from school for two days because I felt so totally sick, distressed, like I would never, ever be the same again. I couldn't move, I couldn't breathe. CP was distressing, but I'm still physically aware that I'm alive, which after reading the TMI books, I didn't even think I knew what breathing was.

I'm really fun to watch when I'm watching Lord of the Rings, too. Endless sobbing, endless emotions. I get so dang emotional over everyyyythingggg.

[Nidhi]

Oh oh! Same here with TMI. Oi My friend told me to buy ALL of the three books, I was confused why she told me that. I bought the books, I went home and started reading and oh my god! I just, swear never put the bloody book down and just got my mom to bring my food and water..at the end of the first book I just..argh! and then the second and then the third and then I died, may Nidhi rest in peace...for she will be greatly missed....I just feel in Love with Cassandra Clare for this Series and my friend! Then came TID, first book i found it a bit of a drag and I thought the second book ain't going to be to good, but since I love Cassandra Clare and well secretly vowed I would read every one of her books so I gave it a shot and I flawed my self crying, I wanted to hurl the damn book or set it on fire, bang my head, dig a hole lie in it...That was my reaction...

[Astoria]

Thalia wrote: "Ahh, CoFA was kind of a letdown for me. :[ Since the drama [spoilers removed], she was kind of floundering for a new plot and settled on Simon. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first three, ..."

I too felt it was a let down, maybe because City of Glass was just so amazing, I expected way more from it.
Though as long as Magnus is still there, I will keep reading, I am a sucker for him. I would ship him with anyone in the books, just not with Simon, that would be weird.

[Thalia]

Nidhi, setting CP on fire. Yes, this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted to rip out pages 463 to 475, and burn the rest of the book. I wanted to frame those pages and pretend that was the entire story, and that was the ending. <3

Astoria, yeah, you can tell that Clare thought she would be ending it. But then they wanted her to write three more in the series, and she found of floundered for a solid plot and spent CoFA trying to find something new to write about...

[Nidhi]

Haha I agree. And when I heard City of Glass was the last book I was upset, but I didn't wish for more, but then I re-read it and noticed that she totally left the ending without knowing if Sebastian still lived....She didn't confirm it...so that got me thinking, if she thought about writing three more books while writing CoG?
Oh and I found that CoFA a complete different series to TMI do you know what I mean? It just feels different and just distant from the first three MI..?? When I got CoFA it took my head a long time to adjust to the idea that it was still TMI but no....it just felt different?

[Thalia]

Yeah, you're right. It feels like a spin-off series, with the same characters, but not the TMI series that I fell in love with.

[Amelia]

The Infernal Devices!!! I love the spin-off books!

[Fatema]

the biggest setback for me in TID is that its not in modern time. other than that i love both

[Sandee is Reading]

I love both of them but I liked the characters and the plot more of Infernal Devices.
And in my opinion Mortal Instruments should have stopped in City of Glass. :(

[Passant]

lol Thalia! i wish i could stay home for 2 days from school!!!
i also feel that the author left some strings hanging in the end of CoG (view spoiler)[ not confirming that seb. died and also the seeli queen asking for a favor that was not granted! (hide spoiler)] i dont think i ll mind spinoffs or extra plot stories because i m just in love with the characters and her way of writing and honestly it is not everyday that i find a good book XD

[Emilie]

Thalia wrote: "Yeah, it's not so much a cliffhanger as a "WHAT HAS JUST HAPPENED WE NEED TO FIX THIS RIGHT AWAY OH MY GOODNESS WHATKIWEJURIENHRMNKINV H" sort of feeling.

Emilie, I could fall asleep for like, an ..."

Hopefully you've gotten your sleep now :D When I read CP I had a friend over, and she didn't see me all those days xD

[Jennifer]

@Janina I know! I hate love triangles but I just love Jem and the era so much.

@Sandee I agree, TMI should have stopped at COG. :)

[Thalia]

Passant: Also, Tessa from TID showed up at the end of CoG, and I always did wonder what she was doing there. At least she and Magnus stayed friends over the centuries, right? XD

Emilie, I have gotten some sleep now! x)

[Sandee is Reading]

Jennifer (Loves Jem Carstairs) wrote: "@Janina I know! I hate love triangles but I just love Jem and the era so much.

@Sandee I agree, TMI should have stopped at COG. :)"

That's why still haven't read COFA. My friends told me it wasn't as good as the first three but still I'd love to read the City of Lost Souls. Cover is just soooo cool!