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[Nenangs]

Otis wrote: "The rescue list is based on any book that is sourced from Amazon. Book sources have always been visible on the edit book page. If you find books in the rescue list that aren't sourced from Amazon, please let us know. "

Currently, most of indonesian entry are coming from member manual entry, rarely from amazon. and i saw in my "to rescue list" (there are 46 currently) that some of them has no source(??? = amazon?), but i know some of them were actually come from manual input, some of those manual input were made by me, at least once upon a time. :p
Will these get deleted if not rescued?

Anyhow, I will ask my fellow indonesian librarians to do "rescuing" together. :)

ETA: sorry if this is a recurrence posts/issue, i have no time to check all 800+ posts here

[Rebecca]

Checking the author's website did take care of one of the two I couldn't find any data source for, I guess I'll just have to remember to add the other one I couldn't find anything for once it's published and I have a copy.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Nenangs, if you link to any books you think should not be on the rescue list, I can take a look at them.

[Nenangs]

Thank you rivka.

These are some books in my rescue list (i don't have the physical book & don't know any URL source):

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/69...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38...

and several more.

one of my fellow indonesian librarian already said he had 458 books in his list, mostly locally printed & published books about indonesian cultures. I think he did manual input for those books.
Is there a way to do "batch rescuing"?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

The first one WAS imported from Amazon, although users added cover image and some other data. See log: http://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/1...

The second was rescued on the 20th; it must still be on your list due to caching. (That's a bug being worked on.)

The third is like the first (but with fewer fields not yet rescued): http://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/6...

The fourth is similar, except the only field needing rescue is the author. And you uploaded the cover, so you can use that to rescue the book -- it has the author name on it. http://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/1...

For the fifth, you removed an ISBN from an existing Amazon edition (no idea why), but that means it remains an Amazon edition until it is rescued. http://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/3...

[rivka, Former Moderator]

I'm guessing the rest are similar. Unless you started from scratch with a blank "manually add a book" page, the fact that you added a cover, description, etc. doesn't undo the fact that it was originally sourced from Amazon and retains some elements from there. It does mean that rescuing those books is easier -- they often only need one or two pieces of info to rescue.

[Rebecca]

This appears to be an ISBN/edition for the book that never got used. I can't seem to get rid of it from my books that need to be saved list, even when switching my review to a different edition that was actually published: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...

is there any way to get it off my list?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Switching editions will get it off your list once the caching bug is fixed.

(And the edition won't be out for 8 months. Not surprising many sites don't know about it yet.)

[Maria]

Does anybody know how many books still need to be rescued? I've gotten all the ones on my shelves and am working on the general list now.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Maria wrote: "Does anybody know how many books still need to be rescued?"

No, but I do know it's been dropping steadily all day. Lots of imports, and lots of hard-working librarians!

[Elke]

is it possible to see a list of sources GR will use to update the database? E.g. http://www.d-nb.de was suggested before as a source for german books. Does that mean I have to transfer data from there personally for each book or can GR do that with an automatism? I still have 251 books left and if I could leave out those books listed on d-nb knowing they will be rescued by GR it would sure help get the job done.

[Sandra]

I have a question. Why does Google Preview appear under the cover image on a rescued book, when I re-sourced the cover image from WorldCat?

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/81...

Good work by the way, I've dropped about 250 today while I was busy doing other things.

[Brenda]

Elke wrote: "is it possible to see a list of sources GR will use to update the database? E.g. http://www.d-nb.de was suggested before as a source for german books. Does that mean I have to transfer data from th..."

Check this link Elke, it might answer some questions.

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/7...

[Elke]

Brenda wrote: "Elke wrote: "is it possible to see a list of sources GR will use to update the database? E.g. http://www.d-nb.de was suggested before as a source for german books. Does that mean I have to transfer..."

Okay, I understand that I have to do it myself. Another specific question related to this book: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63.... It was said to also use publisher's info, but in this case the publisher is booksurge aka amazon...use it anyway or better not?

[Brenda]

Elke, I'm not sure..I'd say no, when Amazon is mentioned, but I may be wrong. Perhaps one of the mods or staff need to answer that question...probably tomorrow when they wake!

[Sandra]

Amazon is allowed when it is a publisher so if booksurge is the publisher it should be OK

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Sandra wrote: "Why does Google Preview appear under the cover image on a rescued book, when I re-sourced the cover image from WorldCat?"

The Google Preview has nothing to do with the book source or the issue with Amazon data, so it won't be affected by rescuing a book.

[Moloch]

The list of Italian publishers' websites that was linked some posts ago and is also on the FAQ thread is in progress: please refer to the one on my writing section for the most updated version. Credit should go to all the Goodreads Italia group members who are helping out.

http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/2...

[Nenangs]

rivka wrote: "I'm guessing the rest are similar. Unless you started from scratch with a blank "manually add a book" page, the fact that you added a cover, description, etc. doesn't undo the fact that it was originally sourced from Amazon and retains some elements from there. It does mean that rescuing those books is easier -- they often only need one or two pieces of info to rescue. "

thanks rivka.
me & my fellows indonesian actually start working on our lists. mostly the ones manually added from the scratch.

one question, do we have to input all the blank fields to fully rescue the books? or we can leave some fields (like publishers, page counts, published dates) in blank and the book still rescued?

[Paula]

THe fields that are required to save the edition are marked "required" and are the fields at the top of the page.

[Moloch]

Only author and title are needed (and the URL source if you don't have the book): the rest can be added later.

[Nenangs]

thanks paula & moloch. :)

[Sandra]

rivka wrote: "Sandra wrote: "Why does Google Preview appear under the cover image on a rescued book, when I re-sourced the cover image from WorldCat?"

The Google Preview has nothing to do with the book source o..."

Thanks Rivka :)

[Jan]

Would it be really hard to create a temporary Rescue collumn on the My Books page, as a way see the books at risk of other people, but also to prioritize which shelves to deal with first.

[Snail in Danger (Sid)]

I'm hopeful that perhaps a query could be run to put books that used Google Books and other problematic sources back on the "rescue me" list. I used Google Books to rescue one book, then asked if that was okay shortly after the system was launched. (And this question wasn't answered definitively until yesterday that I saw.)

Also, I wonder if the answer is different for books where Google supplies a free ebook edition. Couldn't it be considered the publisher in that case?

Also also, thanks to Patrick and Otis (Or Brian? Sorry, I forget.) for saying that you're trying to save as much data as possible. For me, at least, that's reassuring.

Also also also, thanks to the fellow librarians who've presumably rescued some books on my list. Impossible to tell how much is imports and how much is librarians, but at least some of it must be the latter.

[Coqueline]

So publisher websites are OK, but not e-commerce sites. How about publisher websites that also have ecommerce page? You usually find the book data along with the ability to buy it directly from the publisher. Is this data fine to use or not?

(example is Penguin.co.uk)

[Moloch]

Yes it's fine

[Coqueline]

Cool, thanks.

[Snail in Danger (Sid)]

This was alluded to briefly in the thread, but I don't think I saw an answer, and I just checked the FAQ thread and didn't see anything there.

Sometimes, a book will be published in the pre-ISBN era, but an ISBN will come to be associated with it in some way. (Perhaps because the book stayed in print and the publisher later gave it an ISBN. Just speculating there.)

I have checked out many books from my local library system where this applies. In these cases, I can provide a title, author, and date of publication, but not an ISBN. I've been creating new no-ISBN editions and combining them, and then switching to the edition that I just added. Should I be doing this, or simply removing the ISBN?

(Going to the various branch libraries to physically examine all these books, or requesting them from the library system again, is not feasible for me by the 30th. Though I may do this in the future.)

[vicki_girl]

Snail in Danger (Sid) wrote: "I have checked out many books from my local library system where this applies. In these cases, I can provide a title, author, and date of publication, but not an ISBN. I've been creating new no-ISBN editions and combining them, and then switching to the edition that I just added. Should I be doing this, or simply removing the ISBN?"

I say go ahead and add the new editions, just like you are doing. We can always merge duplicates later if needed.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Moloch wrote: "The list of Italian publishers' websites that was linked some posts ago and is also on the FAQ thread is in progress: please refer to the one on my writing section for the most updated version. Cre..."

Moloch, I created a ticket with all the ones provided and a link to that still-being-updated list. I'm not sure if anyone has had a chance to do much with it yet (we're still processing imports from the sources we have in place), but rest assured that we do have that information and it is a priority.

[Manybooks]

Is there a way for librarian's to be able to get a list of books that need rescuing for their individual GR friends? I have a GR friend who is not a librarian and who also has major vision problems. It would be nice if I and other friends who are GR librarians could get a list of not just their own lists, but lists of specific friends. Or is there already a way to do that and have I just not figured this out yet?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Jan wrote: "Would it be really hard to create a temporary Rescue collumn on the My Books page, as a way see the books at risk of other people, but also to prioritize which shelves to deal with first."

Unfortunately, that would be pretty difficult.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Gundula wrote: "Is there a way for librarian's to be able to get a list of books that need rescuing for their individual GR friends?"

Not currently. I think someone was looking into whether this could be done without too much trouble, so stay tuned.

[vicki_girl]

As far as I know there is no way to do that, unless you want to click on each individual book they have shelved. It would be nice if there was a button on each users profile or 'my books' page where librarians could click "See this person's at risk books".

[[deleted user]]

Please let us know if this feature becomes available: "See this person's at risk books"

In addition, when will non-librarians see their "at-risk" books list?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Announcements will certainly be made.

[Jan]

Rivka, is there a person we can contact or a place where we can suggest sites/organisations for future imports?

http://zoeken.bibliotheek.be is the online catalogue for public libraries of the Dutch speaking part of Belgium (www.bibliotheek.be is the organisation), they already have an export feed, and cooperate with Librarything and Google Books, which seems to me they are open to cooperate with GR-like organizations.

I think they'd be the best place for Dutch imports, because we read both Dutch publications from the Netherlands as from Belgium, where this is less the case in the Netherlands, and there's the extra caveat that there's a big stash of English (UK), French and German editions as well, thanks to the tree-langual statute of Belgium.

[Lavinia]

My "needs to be rescued" list is down 90% - excellent work. The new imports are definitely doing the trick. Many thanks to all the staff and volunteers for their hard work.

[Lisa]

Mine are way down too. Thanks, all. I've worked on several but not hundreds. I started off with nearly 1,000 books at risk, hundreds of them at risk of deletion. Last I checked that was down to 122 at risk, 18 of those at risk of deletion, but at least one of the latter I combined with another edition of the book not at risk, so 17 I think.

[karen]

any tips on something like this:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33...??

i own the book, but i don't know how to type in japanese characters or anything....

[vicki_girl]

The book is listed on worldcat:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/doraemo...

Just copy and paste from there (assuming it's correct).

[karen]

oh, thank you! i have only been rescuing books i actually own, so i haven't tried any of the links - thank you so much!

[Manybooks]

rivka wrote: "Gundula wrote: "Is there a way for librarian's to be able to get a list of books that need rescuing for their individual GR friends?"

Not currently. I think someone was looking into whether this c..."

I will, and I will let my GR friend know that they are looking into this. Thanks.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Jan wrote: "Rivka, is there a person we can contact or a place where we can suggest sites/organisations for future imports?"

Maybe start a new thread for each country/language? Or do what the Italians did and make a "writing" list.

[Aaron]

I'd like to be a part of this project/idea.

[Maria]

Aaron, are you a Goodreads librarian? If so, just click the "Rescue me" link from Otis' first post.

If not, you need to apply to become a librarian first.

[Moloch]

Title and/or Author are the only REQUIRED fields to save a book? Because some members have found out that if you skip adding the cover the book remains on the rescue list.

[Sally]

You know what'd be cool? And probably impossible to implement... but a way to somehow search/filter rescue-me titles by author?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Moloch wrote: "Title and/or Author are the only REQUIRED fields to save a book? Because some members have found out that if you skip adding the cover the book remains on the rescue list."

It shouldn't. Can you link examples if it happens again? It may be part of the caching bug, or it may be something else.