Editing of quotes for less than "super librarians"

[Stephen]

I'd like to suggest that someone consider changing the restriction on editing popular quotes for regular librarians.

I'm particularly interested in the ability to add and (very ocassionally remove) keywords from popular quotes.

[Paula]

The only things supers are supposed to be able to do over and above is:

* Edit a quote with over 500 adds
* Merge two quotes with over 5 adds that isn't levenstein similar

Are the quotes you wanting to edit have more than 500 adds?

and while this is the librarian group - this request is more appropriate to the feedback group or an email to GR at the support address

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Stephen wrote: "I'd like to suggest that someone consider changing the restriction on editing popular quotes for regular librarians."

It was added due to a few incidents. Being able to edit a quote is all-or-nothing. There is not (as I understand it) a way to allow librarians to just edit keywords without also allowing them to edit author and the quote itself.

[Stephen]

Paula wrote: "...Are the quotes you wanting to edit have more than 500 adds?"

Yes. the quotes do have more than 500 "likes" In many ways, these are the quotes that would most benefit from added keywords.

Sorry for putting this in the wrong section. I thought of using the feedback group but this section of topics just seemed so germain to this. And it really is the kind of things only librarians would care to discuss anyway.

[Paula]

Changing of policy like this is up to GR PTB not librarians. The decision to make the change in the first place was GR PTB.

[Jan]

I do think that the idea to add keywords to quotes regardless of the status of the user might be helpful though.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Except it is not compatible with how GR sets permissions.

[Stephen]

rivka wrote: "Except it is not compatible with how GR sets permissions."

True. But perhaps it's something that could be changed. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.

Just for an example... take a look at
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/...
As keyword tags this quote has
dd , fink , flotsam , funny , humor , jeremy , jetsam , keys , lizzy , mass , right , true , wendy , what-i-always-think

Most of these are next to useless as keyword tags, and yet with 672 people liking this quote, I'm unable to delete useless keyword tags such as DD It's not very meaningful and the only other quote that shares that tag is
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/...

which I might think profound but it isn't in English.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

You can always post asking for help editing such quotes. I deleted the ones that looked obviously useless to me.

[Stephen]

perhaps you should delete wendy and mass as well. Mass as a religous service might be meaningful, or wendy-mass as an author name might be but neither is really usefull as the quote can be found in a search without either (its the authors name)

[rivka, Former Moderator]

I'll make it a single tag.

[Stephen]

Thanks.

One other question how should quotes like this one be handled?

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/...

It's apparently in two langauges and has about 40 keyword tags not in english

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Gotta love those self-promoting authors.

Doesn't look to me like that quote or its tags violate any policies.

[Stephen]

rivka wrote: "Gotta love those self-promoting authors.

Doesn't look to me like that quote or its tags violate any policies."

Isn't this supposed to be an English based site? Should foreign language keywords be used?

What about quotes like this one?
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/...
I assume that it should be deleted, but I'll leave it for you.

[Jan]

It's a multilingual site, so I'm all for foreign keywords, especially if the quote is not in english.

[Paula]

I think foreign keywords are fine, we allow the entry of quotes in other languages the keywords support that.

The other link is spam and deleted

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Stephen wrote: "Isn't this supposed to be an English based site? Should foreign language keywords be used?"

English-based most assuredly does NOT mean that foreign books, quotes, or keywords are problematic.

[Empress]

I'm no longer able to do quote edits. Has this option been restricted recently?

[Gerd]

I don't think so, maybe it's a system glitch.
I did have the problem with Firefox a few times that the edit button didn't appear.

[Banjomike]

You won't get the edit button on a Quote of the Day. Which quote are you having problems with?

[Empress]

Hm. It's the Ray Bradbury quotes. All of them. Maybe it depends on the popularity?
This quote is from the author, but not from a book. Maybe additional tag, to clarify that:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14599...

[Banjomike]

'All of them' sounds like a bug. I've debooked the one you linked but if you are are blocked from all of his quotes then I would post a bug report. Can you edit the brand new ones?

[Empress]

It is weird. None of the quotes I accessed yesterday I could edit. They were the most popular for the "Fahrenheit 451" book

Today I find I can edit some of the author's quotes. I haven't found the same problem with other authors.

I also can't see the number of people that liked the quote on the quote's page, not sure if it was there before.

[Screenshot]



p.s. Thank you for debooking the quote.

[Banjomike]

If anyone is looking at this issue, this brand new quote was added on Sept 25 and has no edit button.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9012...

[rivka, Former Moderator]

???

I see:

Arthur Conan Doyle > Quotes > Quotable Quote(edit)

[Renske]

I also don't see the edit button for that quote

[Lobstergirl]

I don't see an edit button either.

[Banjomike]

Just rechecked that quote and I still don't see the edit button in Firefox, Chrome or Android app.

[Lobstergirl]

Is it a new feature? Only staff can edit quotes?

[Renske]

I think it is just an error, I looked at some other quotes of the same author and those still have the edit button.

[Susie]

I just had a look at all of his quotes and it might be an issue with quotes with over 500 likes? I can see no edit button on any of his quotes with over 500 likes.

[Renske]

Quotes with over 500 likes can only be edited by super-librarians. I see edit buttons for all his quotes with over 500 likes, except for the most popular quote https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1196...

[Banjomike]

I think that one is a Quote of the Day. No one gets the edit button on those except for staff.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Lobstergirl wrote: "Is it a new feature? Only staff can edit quotes?"

If it were deliberate, I would expect it would be true of all quotes.

This is very weird. I'll see what I can find out.

[Erin *Proud Book Hoarder*]

FYI, I just looked and also cannot see an edit button

[[deleted user]]

Erin wrote: "FYI, I just looked and also cannot see an edit button"

Click on the link "X people like the quote", there will be "edit" button on the top of the page. Does not work with Quote of the Day.

[Erin *Proud Book Hoarder*]

Evgeny wrote: "Erin wrote: "FYI, I just looked and also cannot see an edit button"

Click on the link "X people like the quote", there will be "edit" button on the top of the page. Does not work with Quote of th..."

I edit and add quotes regularly, but there is no edit link on the Arthur Conan Doyle one for me.

[Empress]

Quotes with more then 500 likes cannot be edited by Librarians, only Supers and this quote has more then 4k likes.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

It has 1 like. We created a ticket, but so far the main thing determined is that it's very strange.

[Banjomike]

rivka wrote: "It has 1 like. We created a ticket, but so far the main thing determined is that it's very strange."

It now has some friends. Three more quotes ALL added by the same member, two within minutes of each other two weeks ago, the other added today.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9054...

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8955...

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8955...

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Thank you. That may be helpful.

Have you seen any uneditable-with-few-adds added by any other users?

[Banjomike]

This member
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/2...

has added a whole slew of "no edit" quotes over the last month or so
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8709...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8714...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8714...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8748...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8747...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8770...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9059...

while this one, from the same member, is OK
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8716...

I noticed that the numbering of the quotes is a bit odd. The oldest quote in numerical order (the first in the list above) is actually nearly six week NEWER than the second in the list. Has someone been playing with the numbering?

EDIT: the same member added one more "no edit" quote just 7 minutes ago. Fresh!
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9062...

[Banjomike]

I don't know if this makes complete sense but there are more of these 'no edit' quotes' today and some of them have one thing in common. They look truncated or corrupted (or just illiterate).

“Pemberley,”
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9078...

“And brought Miss Hunter down from London in order to get rid of”
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9078...

“That was it, sir.”
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9078...

some the previous ones were also like that
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8748...

Do you want any more?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Banjomike wrote: "Do you want any more?"

Thanks, I think have enough enough samples for now.

[Banjomike]

I found this set of samples and just HAD to post the link:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/list...

There are many that look like "Everybody Wants You Dead (Mulhern, Ben) - Your Note on Page 2 | Location 35 | Added on Saturday, September".

[Empress]

Banjomike wrote: "I found this set of samples and just HAD to post the link:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/list...

There are many that look like "Everybody Wants You Dead (Mulhern, Ben) - Your Note ..."

Is this an import/share from Kindle?

[Plethora]

Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Is this an import/share from Kindle? ..."

Maybe it is an Amazon EE working on the software function for the upcoming Goodreads/kindle integration? As the feature isn't live yet.

Member from Seattle that recently joined.

[Banjomike]

This might be related. On this quote I can see the edit button but then I get "Sorry, only employees can edit this quote." It certainly isn't a QotD though it could be an test account.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8916...