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lol, thanks Bobby. My back is a tribal rose, taken from the cover of one of my favorite series
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Tim,When you say you are tempted to get one.
Are you talking something small like a blue swallow? Or Or are you talking full sleeve? ;)
Maybe you should get a lucky clover on your buttock.
Dawn wrote: "You weren't insulting me by calling me American were you Tim?? ;D"
Sorry no. You North Americans are all the same to us sophisticated europeans :-)
Though having lived here for half a year now I can't think how being called American would be an insult. I genuinely love it here. People are great too. I'm sure Canada is great as well as I work with a few folk from up there and they are all dead on. I might go up there in the Summer. It doesn't look too far from New Hampshire on the map, though I still haven't quite adjusted to the concept of distance on this continent yet.
Bobby wrote: "@Dawn, you are cool beyond words!! ..."
That's why I hang around her.
Terri wrote: "Tim,When you say you are tempted to get one.
Are you talking something small like a blue swallow? Or Or are you talking full sleeve? ;)
Maybe you should get a lucky clover on your buttock."
I've always thought if you are going to get a tattoo, you should get something classic and timeless, like a dagger through a skull on your forearm, dripping blood and with a naked woman wrapped round it. Something classy, you know?
Oh totally. Yeah, something classy like that would be perfect for you. Or perhaps a black panther crawling up your bicep.I think you should do it. The skull. On your chest. ;)
Tim wrote: "Sorry no. You North Americans are all the same to us sophisticated europeans :-)"Well, this is just a friendly FYI then if you do go north. Canadians hate with a passion to be thought of as Americans. Most will just be too polite to tell you.
It's much like the Scots and Irish would be insulted if you called them English. We just don't have the centuries of bad blood to really flesh it out. :)
I've only recently figured out what I would get for a tattoo. Now to figure out the size and location. I would want to be able to see it.
Tim wrote: " It doesn't look too far from New Hampshire on the map, though I still haven't quite adjusted to the concept of distance on this continent yet."New Hampshire, that's just a hop, skip and a jump from the border. At least in North American terms.
Though this comes from someone who thinks nothing of driving 2,000kms to get to Disneyland. :)
Go to Montreal, it's the closest you'll get to old world charm on the entire continent. And they have a pretty good amusement park.....
Crystal wrote: "I've only recently figured out what I would get for a tattoo. Now to figure out the size and location. I would want to be able to see it."So....don't keep us in suspense.....what is it gonna be??
The Solana family coat of arms. Yellow sun on azure field with red border containing 8 green snake heads. Not sure if I want to include the helm & plumes or not.
Nice, I think coat of arms make great tattoos. I really like the helm, though I imagine the helm would look silly without the plumes.
Draw your own design and you will know right away how good your artist is. I drew up both of mine and the artist never even blinked like"how am I gonna do that". The poor ones will want to take one out of their books.. Ones they've done before and no so intricate. Do it.
Both my arms were drawn custom by the artist just for me. Always a good sign as well.
I intend to bring the full color copy printed on regular paper. :) Maybe ask if they can make the plumes wrap the whole thing, meeting at the bottom. As a female, I can replace the helm with a diadem or coronet... but I like the helm!
Tim wrote: "Dawn wrote: "You weren't insulting me by calling me American were you Tim?? ;D"
Sorry no. You North Americans are all the same to us sophisticated europeans :-)
Though having lived here for half ..."
If you want to get an idea of how much Canadians hate being called Americans Tim, google Canadian beer adds and watch the one called 'I am Canadian'.
I love it, it's a classic. It is a Molson beer ad. I don't know how well it translates to the international crowd but it was an extremely popular ad at the time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3...
I found an article on the reading habits of Americans and I thought it made for some interesting reading http://libraries.pewinternet.org/2012...
Calling a Canadian an American is as likely to win friends and influence people as calling a New Zealander an Australian. I've a brother out there (and several Canadian friends, I hasten to add), and the worst thing is, I can see absolutely no discernable differences between their language and intonation. They're all the same to me. So I just assume all are from NZ, and that saves me upsetting New Zealanders. Assies just think it's funny!
It is funny to me. And obviously you are not listening to the right Aussie accents. ;)
My sister is really good at telling the difference between Aussie and NZ accents but I have a hard time too. Obviously lots of people have problems with accents though because the Aussie's around here often get mistaken for British. :)
Well, right now I'm proud to be able to tell the difference between English and Italian....
I am improving at guessing the different American accents I hear at work.
Terri wrote: "It is funny to me. And obviously you are not listening to the right Aussie accents. ;)"
For many years after Crocodile Dundee there were plenty of perfectly good, Queen's English speakers who were asked whether they were Aussies. Now they're all asked if they're New Zealanders because of Lord of the Rings. Odd how films confuse people.
My (very English) mother was once in Canada, and she was disconcerted to be stared at by a very pleasant American lady on a train journey.
"Where are you from?"
"England."
"But where were you born?"
"England," my mother said. She was taught to be polite.
"So have you lived in the States for long?"
"No, I've always lived in England."
The lady was very confused, and finally blurted out, "So how come you speak English so well?"
My mother didn't have the heart to respond further.
Well I do love hearing about where people live, but I assure you that I know they speak English in England. LOL Well most do anyway. You know, maybe even a higher ratio than in the States. :)I was also taught to never stare at people. A train is not a zoo.
Leslie wrote: "I was also taught to never stare at people. A train is not a zoo..."hahaha!! Good advice.
Michael wrote: ""No, I've always lived in England."The lady was very confused, and finally blurted out, "So how come you speak English so well?"
My mother didn't have the heart to respond further. ..."
Oh my goodness. :\
Mind you, there are some British accents that are barely English. :)
Mind you there are American accents that I'm pretty sure are not actually English. :)
Leslie wrote: "Mind you there are American accents that I'm pretty sure are not actually English. :)"I have seen those accents on the tv.. :)
Deep South I'm looking at you.I can say that as I AM in fact deep South, born and raised.
Terri wrote: "Leslie wrote: "Mind you there are American accents that I'm pretty sure are not actually English. :)"I have seen those accents on the tv.. :)"
LOL, yes. That's where we like to put them. LOL
..and one of the other accents...without it, I would never have.."what the shizzle?"..in my vocabulary.
Mick Jagger claims the Cockney accent was the parent accent of the Southern drawl. I certainly hear it in the Cajun speech.
Terri wrote: "Michael wrote: ""No, I've always lived in England."The lady was very confused, and finally blurted out, "So how come you speak English so well?"
My mother didn't have the heart to respond further...."
I'll tell my mother you said that. "Barely English", indeed!
Bobby wrote: "Mick Jagger claims the Cockney accent was the parent accent of the Southern drawl. I certainly hear it in the Cajun speech."Jagger has quite a few unfounded and dodgy theories or ideas - many may have sprung from strange smoking substances! The Cajuns were "Arcadians" who were French North Americans who left Canada when the British (quite rightly and fairly) took it. I would doubt that, personally, but I can see what you mean about the drawl.
Reminds me when we first moved to Texas in the early '60s. My mom swore it took her months to understand what people were saying :)
Michael wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Mick Jagger claims the Cockney accent was the parent accent of the Southern drawl. I certainly hear it in the Cajun speech."Jagger has quite a few unfounded and dodgy theories or id..."
And then they settled in Maine before heading down to La. When I lived in Maine we used to go to Old Orchard Beach area and there were Arcadian descendants who lived there and had a definite drawl. Mix that with a Maine accent (ayuh) and they were practically speaking a different language. Cajun is a bastardized pronunciation of the word "Arcadian." Oh, and I'm a huge Rolling Stone fan, so if Mick said it...believe it!! LOL
Terri wrote: "Michael wrote: ""No, I've always lived in England."The lady was very confused, and finally blurted out, "So how come you speak English so well?"
My mother didn't have the heart to respond further...."
Lol. That's very true, this is the yorkshiremans motto written as it spoken.
'Ear all, see all, say nowt;
Eyt all, sup all, pay nowt;
And if ivver tha does owt fer nowt -
Allus do it fer thissen.
According to scholars, the living dialect that is closest to Elizabethan English of Shakespeare is Gullah. It barely survives along the coast of North & South Carolina, U.S.
"Northern Hiberno English" (i.e. the English they speak in Northern Ireland) is supposed to be also very close to Elizabethan English, for pretty similar historical reasons. I was recently quite gunked to learn that that most seemingly Irish of words "craic" (i.e. what we are all supposed to go to the pub for) is actually a gaelicization of an Elizabethan English word, crack, which meant bragging or entertaining conversation (like "cracking" a joke). Apparently there are a whole bunch of folks down in Florida called "crackers" due to their former propensity for telling tall tales.
Bobby wrote: "Mick Jagger claims the Cockney accent was the parent accent of the Southern drawl. I certainly hear it in the Cajun speech."I had a drama instructor who was really good with accents who taught us that as well. She even demonstrated sliding from a cockney accent to a southern (US) one simply by slowing the cadence and drawing out the vowels.
Florida crackers are so called because of cracking whips to drive herds of cattle. English didn't come to FL until the late 1700's, Spanish was the language here. (with the exception of Irish priests and escaped slaves from the english colonies.)
Oh, and my mom had Gullah relatives, she told me first about the accent. And it is close enough to other southern dialects that when I have trouble with a line in a Shakespeare play, I say it aloud with a southern accent and it suddenly starts to make sense.
There was a movie with John Voigt back in the '70's called "Conrack" where he was a teacher at a Gullah school.
Crystal wrote: "Florida crackers are so called because of cracking whips to drive herds of cattle. English didn't come to FL until the late 1700's, Spanish was the language here. (with the exception of Irish pri..."According to the food network on TV (which I was watching the other night), the Florida Crackers are descendants of english speaking american settlers who moved there after 1763 when Spain gave Florida to the British. Apparently in the 1760s the term "cracker" was commonly used for backwoods frontiers people in the US.
When I lived in Charleston SC, I'd see lots of Gullah women at the market selling those really beautiful sweetgrass baskets. https://www.google.com/search?q=gulla... I'd love to have one of those now. I think I remember that Geechee is considered a creole language and not just an accent though. Which is to say that it is largely English with strong influences from West Africa. (But then, my last linguistic Anthro class was about a million years ago)
Hey everyone,Just wanted you all to know that i will be quiet in here in the next few days.
I hurt my back and on top of that the pain killers are making me very sick.
So if you notice my absence, this is the reason. :)
I'll be back firing on all cylinders soon, I hope.
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@ Tim...when I was younger I played for a semi-pro soccer team and my coach was an ex-player for Hearts-Midlothian and I just started following them. If I ever move to Hawaii I'll probably be the only fan there following Hearts.
Also, just lay still...a bit uncomfortable but not really painful. In fact, I was exhausted from something when I got my 2nd tatoo and actually fell asleep while getting it. Tat artist commented "Don't tell me you just dozed off!! Thats a first!" Go for it, Tim
@Dawn, you are cool beyond words!! Whats the back tatoo of?