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message 2201: by Anne (new)

Anne (spartandax) | 797 comments Here is my 2 cents about amazon acquiring GR. I have had nothing but good relations with Amazon, prompt service, etc. That said, why worry right now, With they world falling apart, I am afraid that there are far more important things to worry about. For me, I plan to stay.


message 2202: by Margaret (new)

Margaret Skea | 136 comments Terri wrote: "That's what I was thinking. While only a portion posts their negative feedback on the merger in the Goodreads Feedback Group, I imagine there are 10 times that many on GR talking to each other in g..."

Anne wrote: "Here is my 2 cents about amazon acquiring GR. I have had nothing but good relations with Amazon, prompt service, etc. That said, why worry right now, With they world falling apart, I am afraid that..."

I've only just got here and was enjoying talking with folk - I don't understand enough of the whole system to know what the implications are - for example I don't know what the Amazon Author Program is - but I just hope that Goodreads as a review / discussion site can continue , and a prompter to encourage me to read books out of my normal fare.


message 2203: by Bobby (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments I'm with Anne, so far. I've used Amazon for years and have never had a problem. Then again, I don't have the perspective that authors have on the changes and will keep a diligent eye on how this buy-out affects GR. This will determine my continuing relationship based on those observations. Hopefully we'll keep smiling.


message 2204: by Bobby (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Could this be an alternative?



Liberty Bay Books


I canceled my Goodreads account given their purchase by Amazon. This is NOT a good move for readers. Join me at Riffle to share what you're reading. Enjoy this fabulous weather here in the The Pacific Northwest.







Riffle
www.rifflebooks.com
Get to know friends through their books, and new books through your friends.


message 2205: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Mar 29, 2013 01:20PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Jean wrote: "Shocked. Wary. Will look for the opportunities that come from it but have a lot of questions e.g. will we still be able to put links to online bookshops other than amazon? If not, the megamonopoly ..."

I'm with Jean. I want to wait and see what comes.
I am concerned and have my concerns, but I want to believe that the site will get better.

So if the site gets better and Amazon don't own my reviews, then I will only have to live with the fact that GR is not an independent site anymore and that it is owned by that juggernaut. (which really sits in my craw).
I should be able to live with that. i won't be happy about it, but I should be able to live with it.


message 2206: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Bobby wrote: "Could this be an alternative?

Liberty Bay Books
I canceled my Goodreads account given their purchase by Amazon. This is NOT a good move for readers. Join me at Riffle to share what you're rea..."


It looks like a professionally run site. I don't like that you don't 'join now' you 'ask for your invite'. weird choice of words there. Bit offputting.


message 2207: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I was told about this one yesterday. Apparently it is Australian owned. :)
http://www.thereadingroom.com/


For the record though folks. A&M will always be here. i will always be here. Don't worry that things will change in here and that I will leave.

I am too invested in you lot. I adore talking to you all and after the merger I will keep you all abreast of any GR changes and we will get through the merger together.
You may see me whine from time to time about this horrid merger, but A&M won't be going anywhere.
We are a permanent fixture here. Here to stay and you can always rely on that.


message 2208: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Happy to hear that this morning from Ms Mod. "We'll get through this together" is the spirit.


message 2209: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments :) I should have reminded everyone of that yesterday.

That while I don't like this merger one bit and if I lose ownership of my reviews to Amazon I will likely remove them and only leave star ratings here, despite that, this group is here to stay and I am here to stay.

We can whine and whinge our way through the merger together. It is healthy to vent sometimes. :)


message 2210: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments The Riffle site is apparently linked through Facebook. Though, whether they change that now or not, I'm not sure.

I've created an account at the Reading Room to see how it goes. I've deleted everything here but my account for now. That's because I want to keep interacting with all of you.


message 2211: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I hope you will stay and keep interactive with A&M, D.
I would actually be heart broken if you went. :(

I am going to create an account at The Reading Room today. See what that site is all about in case I want somewhere else to put my book reviews.


message 2212: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) That Riffle one looks fascinating Bobby.

And it really is invite only, you have to apply with a short application. I'm gonna check it out and see if I get an invite.

But don't worry Terri, I'm not leaving here or anything. I love this place way too much to ever leave. :)


message 2213: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) D and Terri, let me know what The Reading Room is like. I'm curious but I don't want to set up too many accounts all over the place.


message 2214: by Marilee (last edited Mar 29, 2013 02:10PM) (new)

Marilee (hatchling) | 77 comments I'm really upset about the Amazon news. I can just imagine the infiltration throughout the entire GR world. How will competing book and product sellers be treated? What will happen to my reviews? Will we be besieged by pop up ads trying to sell us something whenever we mention a book or author or topic? It happens often enough on so many websites... cookies, haunting my web searching.

Don't get me wrong. I use a Kindle and I buy some books from Amazon, but I don't want my reading life monopolized ... well, let me repeat a quote..

"Bryn wrote: "Yes, my concern is simply independence. In one word."


message 2215: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments I don't want to lose this so, and I want to continue to have a good time, so for the forseable future I'm staying. That does mean you're stuck with me :D

As for reviews: I'm just going to keep posting them to my website, which is just a blog any-road.

Now, minor caveat, I'm moving over the next 3 days, so my lesser inactivity is due to this, and not any coporo-political shenanigans going on. :)


message 2216: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments Hope nobody is going disappear from here.

I shall see what happens when it happens.


message 2217: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments I joined yesterday and exported my books. It wasn't perfect, 400 out of 600 imported there, and without the reviews. Mind you I didn't stop to consult the instructions.


message 2218: by Marilee (new)

Marilee (hatchling) | 77 comments D wrote: "The Riffle site is apparently linked through Facebook. Though, whether they change that now or not, I'm not sure.

I refuse to participate in any discussions that are linked to Facebook on general principal, as it's a privacy destroyer.

I have been unable to fully delete some information about myself that inadvertently got included in my profile on Facebook. This has opened me up to some unwelcome annoyances.



message 2219: by Marilee (new)

Marilee (hatchling) | 77 comments Terri wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Could this be an alternative?

Liberty Bay Books
I canceled my Goodreads account given their purchase by Amazon. This is NOT a good move for readers. Join me at Riffle to share what y..."


Waiting to be "invited" is not really as off putting as it may seem on it's face. I belong to Ravelry, a large fiber craft web community much like Good Reads WAS, in that it's not affiliated with or owned by any corporation or commercial interests. To join, you "apply" and within days, receive an invitation to participate. They do it that way just to keep the [free] enrollment in membership manageable. They don't sell member lists or use pop up ads.


message 2220: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Dawn wrote: "
But don't worry Terri, I'm not leaving here or anything. I love this place way too much to ever leave. :) ..."


Good. I don't mind people cheating on us. As long as you always come home to feed. :D


message 2221: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Dawn wrote: "D and Terri, let me know what The Reading Room is like. I'm curious but I don't want to set up too many accounts all over the place."

I shall.

Haven't joined yet. It has taken me ages to wade through the over 200 new posts in the Amazon Merger thread in Goodreads Feedback.
Now I need a cup of coffee and a hot cross bun to recover my mental energy. ;D


message 2222: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments D wrote: "
Now, minor caveat, I'm moving over the next 3 days, so my lesser inactivity is due to this, and not any coporo-political shenanigans going on. :) ..."


hahaha! Lucky you told us!!


message 2223: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Bryn wrote: "I joined yesterday and exported my books. It wasn't perfect, 400 out of 600 imported there, and without the reviews. Mind you I didn't stop to consult the instructions."

tsk tsk. You got to read instructions, man. lol


message 2224: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Marilee,
You concerns about the merger...you are not alone.
I think the merger takes place end of the first quarter.
Someone posted in the Feedback group that they don't know if that means fiscal or calender. (I am hoping a Goodreads staffer will answer that question soon).

We'll soon see how things go...

RE: Riffle
It is an interesting concept. The 'invite only' concept.


message 2225: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Sorry that was SECOND quarter, not FIRST Quarter.

I just heard back from Patrick at GR: " press release states, "Subject to various closing conditions, the acquisition is expected to close in the second quarter of 2013." That's calendar year that it's referring to. And we really don't have any more information than that. "


message 2226: by Bobby (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments On a different matter...Terri, any update on your parents being stuck.....or your Dad's fishing?


message 2227: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Mar 29, 2013 05:48PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments They are now unstuck. Thanks for asking. They got out of the mud today and are back on the road.
It was a relief.
Good though that they got back into good mobile reception long enough for me to give my Mum a dressing down for forgetting to organise my chocolate Easter eggs before they went on their drive holiday. :\
I feel so neglected. I have not had one Easter in my whole life where my Mum didn't get me something. *sniff*
And since a lady never reveals her age...I can tell you I was born in the 70's. That is a lot of Easter's that she never forgot!


message 2228: by Bobby (last edited Mar 29, 2013 06:53PM) (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Technically she may not have forgotten...just inconvenienced and delayed. Being born in the 40's I have learned to use every excuse over the years.


message 2229: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Mar 29, 2013 07:21PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I did in fact feel that she was feeding me some excuses.
She promised me chocolate in some form or other when they come home (their place is not too far from mine) in a few weeks. I may even be sitting on the front steps waiting on that day, to see if she followed through on her promise.
We take chocolate very seriously in my family.
:)


message 2230: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments I'm surprised you're not meeting her at the halfway tree (or rock, hummock, street sign). Maybe she got you special chocolate?


message 2231: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments ooo...special chocolate.

I could wait at 'the crossroads'. They have to drive passed our road to get home. So I could catch her there.

They have already been away for a week when I went over to their place to collect the mail. I let myself in, expecting Easter Eggs to be waiting on the kitchen table. But there was NOTHING!
I even asked my hubby "did she give you money to buy some for me? If she did, you had better tell me now."
He assured me there had been no communication and was hiding no secret deal.


message 2232: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Maybe they kidnapped the Easter Bunny for you...unlimited supply. Don't ask me how, it's what the my nephew says. How he knows is up for debate. LOL


message 2233: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Maybe...but that doesn't help me tomorrow..when I usually wake up and bathe my arteries in chocolate treats all day.

I think hubby came through though. I saw him hiding a grocery bag in the wardrobe when he got home yesterday. :D


message 2234: by Simona (last edited Mar 30, 2013 11:16AM) (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Good Easter everybody. Terri, you're lucky to still enjoy your parents'presence - and chocolate. Very serious matter, chocolate.

Regarding the merger.
While I understand the concern, I hope we'll wait to abandon the ship to see if it really sinks..I hope to see you all around in the next future.
And since my (very few) reviews have always been done without commercial interests, I'll still continue to leave them when I'll feel like to. Maybe that will be the grain of sand that will keep the balance.


message 2235: by Margaret (new)

Margaret Skea | 136 comments Hi everyone, not sure if this is ok, but i've just posted an article on the Border reivers with illustrations from a community panel in the Great Tapestry of Scotland project I'm involved in, which I thought folk might like to see. The link is

http://englishhistoryauthors.blogspot... Shoot me down in flames if this doesn't fit, but it is a 'random thought'


message 2236: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments That's okay, Margaret. :) The blog isn't you promoting your books. Not in that case anyway.


message 2237: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Simona wrote: "Good Easter everybody. Terri, you're lucky to still enjoy your parents'presence - and chocolate. Very serious matter, chocolate.

Regarding the merger.
While I understand the concern, I hope we'll ..."


I am lucky, Simona. I agree.

My Mum and Dad may have forgotten to get my easter Eggs, but hubby didn't. it is 6.30am and I am putting the jug on to make coffee. Whilst I drink my coffee I shall eat my first easter chocolate of the day. :) nom nom nom.....

Happy Easter to those in my part of the globe (where it is Sunday). I don't celebrate it from a religious aspect, I only celebrate it as a day to celebrate traditions, family and chocolate and to know others around the world are celebrating to. It is a global bonding moment for me. :)


message 2238: by Crystal (new)

Crystal Bryan | 305 comments It's still Saturday afternoon where I am. I want chocolate now! :)


message 2239: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments nom nom nom....my chocolate tastes nice. :D
Chocolate and coffee. Made to go together.


message 2240: by Jane (last edited Mar 30, 2013 01:59PM) (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Terri wrote: "nom nom nom....my chocolate tastes nice. :D
Chocolate and coffee. Made to go together."


Think it's the caffeine in each that appeals??? :)


message 2241: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments That could be true. :)

Expect a lot of frantic typing from me this morning (your evening). lol


message 2242: by Crystal (new)

Crystal Bryan | 305 comments Well, I do have mini-milky ways... *ppbbhhhttt* @ Terri! LOL


message 2243: by Lia (new)

Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments Happy Easter everybody....
Oh my! I forgot to get marshmallow peeps.


message 2244: by Monica (new)

Monica Davis Terri wrote: Happy Easter to those in my part of the globe (where it is Sunday). I don't celebrate it from a religious aspect, I only celebrate it as a day to celebrate traditions, family and chocolate..."

Sometimes chocolate seems like a "religious experience"...


message 2245: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Crystal wrote: "Well, I do have mini-milky ways... *ppbbhhhttt* @ Terri! LOL"

Damn. My attempt at making you envious was thwarted by mini Milky ways!


message 2246: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Lia wrote: "Happy Easter everybody....
Oh my! I forgot to get marshmallow peeps."


Happy Easter, Lia!


message 2247: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Monica wrote: "Sometimes chocolate seems like a "religious experience"... ."

So true.


message 2248: by Jean (new)

Jean Gill (jeangill) | 227 comments Chocolat. Yes, the French know how to do chocolat :) You can pay a week's wages for a tiny box of the stuff but it is always a PROPER present, with ribbons and with endomorphins :) Happy Easter.


message 2249: by Crystal (new)

Crystal Bryan | 305 comments Terri wrote: "Crystal wrote: "Well, I do have mini-milky ways... *ppbbhhhttt* @ Terri! LOL"

Damn. My attempt at making you envious was thwarted by mini Milky ways!"


It was totally working! That's why I resorted to everyday chocolate. :)


message 2250: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments happy chocolate day everyone.;0D


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