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message 351: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Susanna wrote: "I would think the Muslim thing would say not, Ted, but what do I know?"

Yeh, I know... was a wild guess. I don't think Attila got that far East.


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Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
I'm under the impression he lived a few centuries too early.


message 353: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I suppose if you applied the clues liberally, they might apply to Genghis Khan


message 354: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Not Atilla, sorry, but getting warm.

Military might was predominately speed, signals, and archery followed by cavalry.


message 355: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Will wrote: "Not Atilla, sorry, but getting warm.

Military might was predominately speed, signals, and archery followed by cavalry. "


William Wallace? Crazy Horse? Long Dong Silver? I give up.


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Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
The Spanish Inquisition?


message 357: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I didn't think it was Lawrence because his father didn't abandon him. Kind of sounded like Vlad III's younger brother... Rad? The pretty one. He came back with a bunch from the Ottomen Empire.

None of the Ottomen's rulers come to mind, either. Sulieyman (sp?) killed his father, I think - one of them did anyway - but none were really abandoned. One had to order his father into battle at some ridiculously young age too, after his father abdicated in his favor. That's not abandonment, is it? He was 12 or something, so it's an arguable point. Crazy world when a little kid rules an empire.

Ghengis Khan's grandkids, the Golden Horde, were another thought, but again, I didn't think their dad abandoned them & I'm not sure they used any Muslims.

Anyway, I'm stumped. Good one. I'll think more on it tonight & try a guess in the morning.




message 358: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Apply the clues liberally, Manuel. Genghis Kahn it is. You're up.


message 359: by Ted (last edited Mar 11, 2009 05:28PM) (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Will wrote: "Apply the clues liberally, Manuel. Genghis Kahn it is. You're up. "

So what's the Muslim connection? The European ruler, I get (although that IS rather indirect and shifty of you lol!) At least you gave us clues. I did indeed guess Genghis Kahn (out of igonorance) about 10 posts ago, but, upon reflection, thought it was absurd (because of the Muslim thing), so I deleted my post in disgrace!

I have a challenge/suggestion to all of you inveterate Event Gamers. Make it un-Google-able but make it easier.. More throughput that way! We learn things about people and events we may have no clue about BUT have some inkling of a memory about?

newbie


message 360: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Throughput?

There is a place where you can vote for google or no google on this thread if you want.

Genghis Khan had many followers, some Muslim merchants among them. Yes, I was trying to be tricky and thought provoking. You should have guessed, Ted, even if you thought it might be wrong. Yes, European ruler was correct but wildly misleading. Sowwy. His empire did stretch into Eastern Europe, though.

No one ever moved as many forces as fast as he did until modern tank warfare. He had a signal system of flags waved hundreds of years before Europeans did. His horsemen and archers were well trained and well equipped. His empire stretched across millions of miles and he conquered many lands, but he was always, to the end, a bandit.


message 361: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Will wrote: "Throughput?

There is a place where you can vote for google or no google on this thread if you want.

Genghis Khan had many followers, some Muslim merchants among them. Yes, I was trying t..."


Will, that was a really good one. By "easier" and "throughput" I meant that maybe more people in this group would collaborate if the clues weren't like Jeopardy on steroids.

haha!


message 362: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person
1. broke nose during 1906 earthquake.
2. studied to be a concert pianist but devoted his life to second career at age 25.
3. Oct 31, 1941 significant date in his career.
4. His name is synonymous with his field.


message 363: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I don't see how you can make a clue unavailable through Google. Personally, I enjoy the chase & reading up on all the different things it could be. I often get side tracked & read up on things I know are not related. Yesterday it was lots of fun expanding my knowledge of Vlad the Impaler.

A masterful clue, Will. I had eliminated Genghis Khan as I didn't think his father abandoned him, either. Married him off early. I just received a book about him through the GR free give-away. It will be interesting reading now.


message 364: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Gutzon Borglum?

He actually died in March, 7 months before Mt. Rushmore opened, but that would seem to still be an important date for him.


message 365: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments My memory may be faulty, Jim. It often is. The way I remember the story was that his father dumped him on his future wife's family to apprentice and then died when returning home. The tribe then abandoned his entire family after his father's death. Khan -- I forget his real name, Temijin? (should research that) -- returned home to be rejected and abandoned but rose in respect for being so ruthless and effective as a bandit.


message 366: by Will (last edited Mar 12, 2009 06:35AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments That's a good guess, I'd think, Jim. The date-clue leads one to Mt. Rushmore completion. His name is synonymous with his field? A pianist sculptor?

Kahn's real name was Temüjin. I was close. I never published "Terror in the Orient" but enjoyed writing it and researching it.

I voted "google" on the poll. It was running two-to-one for when I voted.

I'm with Jim that I enjoy guessing then researching, sometimes with Google, and get sidetracked but love it.


message 367: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Will, I remember it about the same way. I guess it just didn't strike me as his father abandoning him. It was fun looking around.

I got interested in Vlad III because Fred Saberhagen wrote a series of books based on Bram Stoker's Dracula figure. In many of the books, Vlad reminisces about the past. Fictional, of course, but interesting glimpses into the life of the times. In Thorn, I believe, he traces the history of his second wife through a painting. We get interesting views of Italy & some of the famous people of the times.


message 368: by Jim (last edited Mar 12, 2009 06:51AM) (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I don't think Borglum's name is synonymous with his field, but I do recall reading he was studying music when younger. He was over in Europe quite a bit early on, too, but came from the L.A. area & I seem to recall he was out painting or something when the earthquake hit. I think he was featured on a recent History channel thing or maybe it was Antiques Roadshow. Anyway, his name bubbled up from the morass I call a mind...

Oh & if it wasn't for Google, I wouldn't know his name. I recalled the approximate date for Mt. Rushmore, the SF earthquake & thought of him. Couldn't remember his name for the life of me, though.


message 369: by Will (last edited Mar 12, 2009 07:12AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Where would we be w/o google? I don't know; not in the library learning, I'd guess. I love the new information highway. It may be our demise, eventually, but what a way to go! Learning! Researching. Communicating. Sharing ideas; sometimes maybe sharing too much? I know I'm off subject and will quit, but the internet is the one invention that has been transformational in my life. My grandparents saw much more transformation in their lives, but didn't make it to the google era; a pity. My grandfather's stories would have been a huge hit.


message 370: by Ted (last edited Mar 12, 2009 09:01AM) (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Will wrote: "Where would we be w/o google? I don't know; not in the library learning, I'd guess. I love the new information highway. It may be our demise, eventually, but what a way to go! Learning! Resear..."

Again off topic, but I agree. I feel spoiled by the fact that I can look up something about virtually anything, whenever I want. Is this not too easy? Will we evolve into beings like those in a Star Trek episode who are only intellectual heads in glass jars getting their jollies by betting on gladiator games? lol


message 371: by Manuel (last edited Mar 12, 2009 10:37AM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments a person
1.broke his nose in the 1906 earthquake
2. studied to be a concert pianist, but devoted his life to 2nd career at age 25
3. Oct 31, 1941 a significant date in his career.
4. His name is synonymous with his field.
5. After his death, Congress named a mountain in his honor.



Not Borglum


message 372: by Will (last edited Mar 12, 2009 10:48AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments That's gotta be Borglum. A mountain in South Carolina or somewhere in the Dixie states, right? Carved Gen. Lee's image and then aborted the effort...or something like that. My memory stinks.

Jim, I reread how I told the story and it doesn't sound as much like abandonment as I remember from reading the book. As a small child, long before his 12th b'day when he would be married, he was taken from his home by his father and dropped off with strangers (his future in-laws) because he was beginning to demonstrate his superiority to his elder and eldest brother, the chosen heir. Maybe "abandon" wasn't the best choice of words; not intentionally misleading as some of my clues often are--I promise.


message 373: by Jim (last edited Mar 12, 2009 11:16AM) (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) It's got to be Ansel Adams, then - except, what's the big deal about 1941?


message 374: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Not a big deal, Will. I'm just as happy not to win the honor of trying to figure out new clues.


message 375: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Bravo Jim
Yes
Ansel Adams

Oct 31, 1941 is the date of his most famous photograph
Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico

4 year old Ansel broke his nose during the 1906 earthquake when a retaining wall fell on him.


message 376: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Person
1) Born in southern Sweden
2) His father was the first in his line to adopt a permanent last name, which was based on something near the house.
3) Scientist & physician
4) Classifications


message 377: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) That was a good one, Manuel. The clues were split for me between the two since I didn't know about Adam's date for his picture. He is much more of a name for his art, I think.

I hope this one is OK.


message 378: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Glad you liked it Jim.
I was inspired by an original "Moonrise" 12 feet from my computer.


(no its not mine)


message 379: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Carl Linnaeus or Carl von Linne ?


message 380: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Sounds right to me.


message 381: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) You got it, Aimee! Too easy?


message 382: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I'm certainly not Ansel Adams, but I did get a decently creepy moon picture not too long after Halloween last year. It's on my website:
http://www.wysiwygwood.com/pictures.html



message 383: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Cute pics, kids...not you, though you claim to be a kid. Fox hunt?




message 384: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) The pictures are mostly old - the cute little girl on the pony in front is almost 20 now, so 10 - 15 years. Been a while, anyway. No, I'm not a kid. Mom & Marg gang up on me at times though. Apparently I felt that way when writing that part of the web page.

Fox hunting, really fox chasing, is riding out after a pack of hounds to chase a fox around. They used to do it for fun to kill off the foxes that over populated England years ago. Here, they do it just for fun & rarely catch a fox unless it's about dead already. Usually the fox will run the pack a while, then cut out, either into its den or something. A lot of places chase coyote & never catch them. Others just do a drag hunt - the hounds chase scent laid down for them. It's just a good excuse to ride like a nut, jump a lot & have fun.


message 385: by Ted (last edited Mar 13, 2009 10:51AM) (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Jim wrote: "The pictures are mostly old - the cute little girl on the pony in front is almost 20 now, so 10 - 15 years. Been a while, anyway. No, I'm not a kid. Mom & Marg gang up on me at times though. Ap..."

Jim, I'm glad you cleared that up, for I would have thought a "drag hunt" was a hunt in drag!


message 386: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Sorry I took so long...

An event

1. 1791-1794
2. unpopular tax
3. Pennsylvania
4. Tom the Toe


message 387: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments The Whiskey Rebellion.



message 388: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Alright, that was too easy! I'm giving up on writing clues!

Yes Ted you were right, sigh..


message 389: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I think it's hardest writing clues, Aimee. After Will & Manuel, I thought mine might have been too easy, although I couldn't think how to make it much more obscure & still be solvable. I was impressed you got it so fast.


message 390: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments A person

1. six siblings
2. vaudeville
3. The Milk Can
4. spiritualism



message 391: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Jim, on your last clues... when it said classification, my first two thoughts were Dewey decimal and Animal kingdom. I was just lucky that i was right. But I argee, sometimes its very frustrating writing clues, trying not to make them too obscure, but not too easy. I haven't figured out how to do it yet!


message 392: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Is it Houdini?


message 393: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Manuel wrote: "Is it Houdini?"

You got it Manuel, Ehrich Weiss (aka Harry Houdini).


message 394: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I was'nt sure about clue #1
but all the others fit Houdini well


message 395: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Manuel wrote: "I was'nt sure about clue #1
but all the others fit Houdini well"


Yes, well I included the six siblings as possible misdirection!


message 396: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Misdirection...old Harry would be proud.


message 397: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Barbarossa wrote: "Misdirection...old Harry would be proud."

Yes. I'm reading about Houdini at this moemnt. What a fascinating individual.


message 398: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments a person

1. To this day, still despised throughout Latin America
2. Searching for adventure and wealth
3. Known for his bravado and gile
4. Started by recruiting small group of followers


message 399: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Think it could be any one of various Spanish conquisators, but I'll hazard Hernando Cortez.


message 400: by Will (last edited Mar 13, 2009 03:13PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I work a few hours and look what all I miss!

It's gotta be Cortez (Cortes), Cabeza d' Baca (Vaca. In NM it's C'd'Baca, large family here), Pizzarro, Vasco de Balboa, Coronado, Don Juan Onate was further north in New Mexico, or Vasquez. Those aren't guesses, btw, just thoughts on the clues. I think it's going to be Cortez but I suppose it could be Columbus. Nah. Queen Isabella of Spain isn't a small group of followers.


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