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Predictions for Love Triangle in Clockwork Princess

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message 301: by Sunny (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sunny I hope that jem dies a heroic death and Tessa and Will live happily ever after. Maybe Gabriel and Cecily would make a good couple as well.


message 302: by Sarah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sarah Ann Everyone keeps saying Jem is going to die.

BUT, maybe he becomes brother Zachariah in the mortal instruments. 'cause brother Z has a soft spot for the Herondales.

Also, in the trilogy the Dark Artifices by Clare, coming in 2015. The protagonist name is Emma Carstairs. And Carstairs is Jem's last name. Does that mean he lives and has children? Hmm..

I'm Team Will still. But that doesn't mean I want Jem to die.

All will be revealed in 2013.


message 303: by Apples (new) - rated it 5 stars

Apples I wonder what Church's role is in all of this. Predictions?


Abigail Jones I'm just hoping that Will doesn't have a Sydney kind of death or something, because I think it would be right up Cassandra Clare's alley to give Will a really awful ending where he sacrifices himself to give Tessa and Jem a happy ever after.

But, I also think that whatever happens, he probably won't die for real; like Jace in CoG, I think that even if that^ does happen he'll come back somehow. Brother Zachariah?

What I HOPE happens is that Mortmain says that if tessa gives herself up, he has an antidote for Jem; tessa then has a really romantic scene with Will, tells him he loves him, and leaves so that Jem can have a nice happy life without her?

:( As if Church, don't know.


Caitlin Tallulah wrote: "Reply to this if you are team Will, I want to see how many people there are who lovee Will."



Me and my mom are most certainly Team WILL


message 306: by Megan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Megan Caitlin wrote: "Tallulah wrote: "Reply to this if you are team Will, I want to see how many people there are who lovee Will."



Me and my mom are most certainly Team WILL"


Thats awesome. I wish my mom didn't hate reading:) As for Abigail's comment, if Will has a Sydney death, I will cry my eyes out. I cried in A tale of Two Cities.(but I never cry in books so it was weird). I just can't see Cassandra permanently killing off Will. But that's probably because I'm team Will :)


message 307: by SP (new) - rated it 4 stars

SP Cassie won't kill Will.
She won't.
She won't.
She won't! >:(

She loves Will. The End.


message 308: by Foxtail (new)

Foxtail Giulia wrote: "Courtney wrote: "As much as I'm trying to figure out how this love triangle is going to play out, I'm keep re-remembering that Tessa's immortal. so it doesn't really matter who she ends up with cau..."

But will doesn't appear in later books, Tessa appears talking to Magnus in the epilogue of City of Ashes (I think :3) and Magnus says on one occasion. "the boy with black hair and blue eyes like Alec, and the girl with brown hair and a serious face. Out of all the people in that world, she's the only on that stayed" SOO, she doesn't die.

WILL AND TESSA FOREVER. I know where you live Cassandra Clare, you better make them together o.O (jk, but seriously)


message 309: by Foxtail (new)

Foxtail Giulia wrote: "But if Tessa is immortal don't you think that maybe Cassie would have mentioned her in The Mortal Instruments??? And how do we know that that lady from the Lightwood Ball wasn't lying?? It happened..."

You do see her in the Mortal instruments, she appears in City of Ashes supposedly. In the epilogue....


message 310: by Foxtail (new)

Foxtail EVERYONE THAT CARES, Cassandra Clare hinted in one interview that Tessa might not end up with either. I have a feeling she'll end up with Gabriel (You're all forgetting him) because on several occasions the show limited affection toward each other, and Tessa HAS said he was handsome :3 that's my theory. I love will, but this might happen....


message 311: by Megan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Megan I think the only reason Tessa wouldn't end up with Will or Jem is because she isn't going to end up with anybody. And if it is someone else, I think it will be someone we haven't met or will never meet.


message 312: by Maddy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maddy Payne Rania wrote: "as much as a hate to say it but jem might die cuz there are no shadowhunters in the TMI books with jems last name. reply to this if u think so or not."

However, in the Dark Artifices one of the main characters is Emma Carstairs. So somehow he must have passed down his name because his siblings are unknown and we don't know much about the rest of his family (since his mother and father are both dead) ):


Rashika (is tired) Tallulah wrote: "Reply to this if you are team Will, I want to see how many people there are who lovee Will."

I AM TEAM WILL!!! ive read some hate stuff about will and it makes me sad.. :/ but the thing is that i have a strong feeling that its going to be will.. because we know that if it isnt tessa (in wills case) it wont be anyone else.. and also we all know that will is jace's ancestor so he will get married.. and since tessa is unique i have a feeling she will be able to have kids.. :)


Rashika (is tired) Jem doesnt die.....there is an emma carstairs in the dark artifices series which is going to be published in 2015.. woah now i am worried.. what if tessa ends up with jem.. not that i dont like jem.. i love jem but it would kill me to see that will doesnt get together with tessa :/


Natalia I am just going to say this one thing: if there isn't a Will and Tessa scene (preferably with kissing) I will be very disappointed. I won't hate the book, because I never could, but you get the idea.


message 316: by Cynjit (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cynjit Maybe Will also becomes immortal by becoming a silent brother? Or Jem?

For me, the end is bound to be bittersweet because their is no right answer. No matter what, someone dies or gets hurt.

But I am definitely team Will. Although I do love Jem.


message 317: by Sophia (last edited Jul 19, 2012 03:08PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia Wong Dannielle wrote: "Well as we all know, Jem is dying. And his time with Tessa/Will is growing increasingly shorter than expected. And with this being noted, I am sadly predicting the death of Jem in Clockwork Princes..."

I agree. As sad as it is, I think it might happen. But, in the Dark Artifices (2015) the main character has the last name of Carstairs, so I think Tessa and Jem might have a baby first before Jem gives his blessing to Will and dies. This is indeed a bittersweet ending, and I'm kind of hoping that this will not happen. But, what good book doesn't have some main character dying in the end? Especially Cassandra Clare's?


Christie I have a love-hate relationship with Will. Sometimes he drives me completely insane and others I just can't stand Tessa for not realizing they are meant to be together. But, those emotional feelings in my opinion are what love is about. So I predict Tessa will be with Will in the end.


message 319: by Dannielle (last edited Jul 25, 2012 06:56PM) (new)

Dannielle Cassandra stated that Emma Carstairs shouldn't be assumed to be directly related to Jem. She confused the situation by saying that Jem has multiple family members he doesnt know about, so she could stem from the unknown side. Though, it is possible that Tessa may not end up with either as Laura & Sophia stated. I'm not sure if I would like that ending.. I would feel cheated. And who Knows if Will may be the one that ends up dying in battle. I'm sure ONE of the boys will die before the end though


Blujeanbooks96 'has multiple family members he doesnt know about'.. this could be an interesting development for Jem...

And I understand what you say about feeling cheated if she doesn't end up with either Jem or Will. This is how I think it will play out.
But I will not be particualrly surpirsed if Will dies. He may be pretty reckless because Tessa (who he may want to live for) now pretty much belongs to someone else. He'll have a renewed recklessness for his life I reckon.


message 321: by Jodie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jodie It's super obviously Will. I mean come on! The smart, funny, witty, and irresistibly sexy character versus the soft hearted sweet character? I mean don't get me wrong, I love Jem with all of my heart, but Tessa on the other hand does not. She loves him in a way that she wants to protect him and keep him alive, yet she loves Will in a way that is passionate and romantic and, frankly, filled with way more love than she has for Jem. There is quite a large difference between being IN love and loving someone. She loves Jem very much of course but she is definitely IN love with Will. Or else she wouldn't have to convince herself that she loves Jem.

My prediction is this
Will and Tessa
Jem either alone, becoming a silent brother, or possibly getting with Cecily. I don't believe he will die because there is no way Will would get with Tessa after that. He would feel way to guilty and like he is betraying Jem.


message 322: by [deleted user] (new)

go will and tessa.

jem with someone else


message 323: by Maya (new) - rated it 4 stars

Maya Natalia wrote: "I am just going to say this one thing: if there isn't a Will and Tessa scene (preferably with kissing) I will be very disappointed. I won't hate the book, because I never could, but you get the idea."

Cassie said that Jem has family connections that he doesn't know about, so it doesn't have to be Jem's daughter. It could be just a distant relative...


message 324: by Maya (new) - rated it 4 stars

Maya Maddy wrote: "Rania wrote: "as much as a hate to say it but jem might die cuz there are no shadowhunters in the TMI books with jems last name. reply to this if u think so or not."

However, in the Dark Artifice..."


Rashika wrote: "Tallulah wrote: "Reply to this if you are team Will, I want to see how many people there are who lovee Will."

I AM TEAM WILL!!! ive read some hate stuff about will and it makes me sad.. :/ but the..."


Just because we don't know his family, doesn't mean that it could've been a relative of Jem's. There is a possibility that it was not A descendant of Jem's child.


Rashika (is tired) Will cannot die.. he needs to pass on the family name


message 326: by Wendy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Wendy Well we all know where Jace's snarky genes came from :)


Rashika (is tired) Maya wrote: "Maddy wrote: "Rania wrote: "as much as a hate to say it but jem might die cuz there are no shadowhunters in the TMI books with jems last name. reply to this if u think so or not."

However, in the..."

yeah i found out that Jem had relatives he doesnt know of...and at that period of time... i had just finished the clockwork prince and it was driving me crazy.. so i am all good :)


message 328: by Elina (new) - rated it 3 stars

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message 329: by S. (new) - rated it 5 stars

S. SHE BETTER END UP WITH WILL!

Jem please live and find someone else, Tessa and Will just belong together!


~☺MiNi☺~ Giulia wrote: "I know exactly what you mean, it hadn't even been a full day engaged to Jem before she had already kissed Will, I was expecting at least some resistance. Anyway, for the love triangle I think at th..."

Ooh I was thinking of Cecily and Jem, too..
But you really cannot be sure, I just hope Cassandra Clare does us proud with a great ending to everyone hopefully!


message 331: by Kj (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kj Rashika wrote: "Maya wrote: "Maddy wrote: "Rania wrote: "as much as a hate to say it but jem might die cuz there are no shadowhunters in the TMI books with jems last name. reply to this if u think so or not."

Ho..."


Well I've been reading some more updates about Clare's new series due out in 2015, and one of the characters has the surname Carstairs. So she's definitely keeping us on the edge with these guessing games haha.


message 332: by Rielly (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rielly Walker I think Jem will become Brother Zacharia.


.stechi. Mira wrote: "Aycal Herondale wrote: "Tallulah wrote: "Reply to this if you are team Will, I want to see how many people there are who lovee Will."

I am most definitely Team Will! and Jace, but I believe I lik..."


That's a tough choice..... but definitely will!


Waseeta WILL WILL WIN!! I LOVE WILL! Although I like Jem too, but then again WILL DESERVES HER AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT!!!


message 335: by Sagine (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sagine Kirsten wrote: "I'm thinking the ending will be a little different than Will and Tessa ending up together and everyone pairing off, for a neat finish. It shouldn't be that easy! I think it's safe to say that Tessa..."

Tessa won't die, she's the main character. Its very rare that an author would kill the books main focus.


message 336: by Wendy (last edited Sep 22, 2012 05:29AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Wendy i'm patiently waiting for a threesome.... Jokes. Personally I think Tessa won't end up with any of them.


message 337: by Autumn (new)

Autumn Everyone is saying that Bridget the cook's song have some significance to Tessa, especially 'Sweet William' at the end.

However...Earlier in the book when Bridget is first introduced during a training session, she is also strongly attracted to Will, as should everyone be! 'Sweet William' could be in reference to her own feelings, not Tessa's...


message 338: by Kathy (new) - rated it 5 stars

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Rashika (is tired) Autumn wrote: "Everyone is saying that Bridget the cook's song have some significance to Tessa, especially 'Sweet William' at the end.

However...Earlier in the book when Bridget is first introduced during a tra..."

oh i'd like to see a jelly Tessa.
It'll make me feel better about what happened between her and Will.


message 340: by Cupcake1010 (new)

Cupcake1010 You know what? I think Tessa may even end up with Gabriel. Since Cassie said the end is going to be a surprise. Just a thought :-) What do you guys think? (I dont really know about this but it's just a random thought).


message 341: by Cupcake1010 (new)

Cupcake1010 And yes Will is my LIFE. I LOVE YOU WILL!!!! lol Yeh I am seriously over-obsessed hahaha But whatever LOL


message 342: by Asser (new) - rated it 5 stars

Asser In my opinion, Tessa won't end up with either Will or Jem. I have that feeling for a while now and it's really, really a strong feeling. I'm Team Will, btw.


Rashika (is tired) HA.. gabriel.. that would suck for Will but i wonder about the ending because it will be a surprise won't it.. so it makes guessing it harder because we may guess right but even if we did we would think we didnt because it wouldnt be a surprise anymore.
i also have a feeling she wont end up with either :/


message 344: by Sophie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophie I don't care about predictions... JUST CHOOSE WILL, FOR GOODNESS SAKE! LOL :)


message 345: by Brook (new)

Brook May Giulia wrote: "Courtney wrote: "As much as I'm trying to figure out how this love triangle is going to play out, I'm keep re-remembering that Tessa's immortal. so it doesn't really matter who she ends up with cau..."

i was wondering i you have read the Mortal Instruments. in City of Glass Tessa actually appears talking to Magnus


message 346: by Brook (new)

Brook May i have always thought that Tessa "runs away" in 'Princess because she found out what she was. Will, Being distraught, spills his feelings to someone, and Jem overhears. Jem confronts him and they go off to find Tessa together NOT knowing what she is.
during that time she was captured and beaten and forced into marrying the Magisterium (Sp). Then Will and Jem find her, save her and Tessa tells Jem her cannot continue to be married to him because of guilt and something else.

THE SNIPPETS SAY THAT HER GOLDEN DRESS WAS TORN. she WAS MARRYING JEM IN IT i know that thank you very much

Then Jem and Will go and Join the silent brothers. Tessa figures out she is pregnant with will's child. and raises him and we all know what happens then.


message 347: by Kath (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kath Castán Maybe Will and Tessa Die and Jem stars a relationship with Cecily. Or Cecily date with Gabriel or a new caracter. But I'm pretty sure that the brother Jeremiah is Jem and went Will and Tessa dies he joins to the silent brothers. I hope that won't happen.


Doruntina FoxgloveXO wrote: "Reply to this if you are team Will, I want to see how many people there are who lovee Will."

Team WILL all the way!!!!


Doruntina i honestly don't know what to expect form Clockwork Princess and i think that shows just how great an author Clare is! About the love triangle, i admit that i LOVE WILL and think that it is he who should be with Tessa, considering that she is in love with him too. Someone said that Tessa is mentioned as a ghost in City of Glass, but i dont remember :( i'm gonna have to re-read it. As much as i feel bad about this, here's what i HOPE will happen:
Will and Tessa get together,
Jem gets together with Sophie, or becomes a Silent Brother, or dies :(


message 350: by Sydney (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sydney So in Clockwork Prince, it is said that Henry made this confuseler gun that takes down someone's guard down for a few minutes and makes them spurt out anything on their mind. I have a weird feeling that Tessa will accidentally get shot by this gun and spills all her feelings for will in front of Everyone, including Jem. Jem will be bitter at first, then he'll realize that Tessa really loves Will and Will loves Tessa. Then I think He'll either die (HOPEFULLY NOT) or fall for Wills's sister Cicely.


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