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Dawn (caveatlector) Here's the link Crystal Earth. :)


message 2052: by Crystal (last edited Mar 22, 2013 10:46PM) (new)

Crystal Bryan | 305 comments Thanks Dawn!!! :)
My copy is a paperback, but it has the hardcover artwork, the one on the right in the 'other editions.' One of the books I got at the $1 a bag book sale at the now closed used book store on the corner.


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Dawn (caveatlector) This one Earth by David Brin ?

I own a couple Brin books but I've never actually gotten around to reading them. Brightness Reef (Uplift Storm Trilogy, #1) by David Brin will be the one I read first whenever I manage to fit it in.


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Crystal Bryan | 305 comments That's the cover! yup! You are better at ferreting those out for posting than I am by far. Tip of the hat, madam!


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Crystal Bryan | 305 comments I liked that one, and the series. The uplift idea is interesting.


message 2056: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments sci fi is not a genre I have ever embraced. I have read a few, plus many Douglas Adams, but sci fi never did anything for me and I wandered off the genre permanently.


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments I've read much more sf/f than hf, over my lifetime. But I think I like them in similar ways and I throw them together on a shelf called 'imagined fiction'.


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Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Bryn wrote: "I've read much more sf/f than hf, over my lifetime. But I think I like them in similar ways and I throw them together on a shelf called 'imagined fiction'."

Now THATS a shelf I'll have to embrace, Bryn. Perfect!


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Simona | 1453 comments I am readingLost to the West: The Forgotten Byzantine Empire That Rescued Western Civilization, on and off, but it seems really interesting.


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Terri | 19576 comments Simona wrote: "I am readingLost to the West: The Forgotten Byzantine Empire That Rescued Western Civilization, on and off, but it seems really interesting."

That does seem interesting, Simona.
Is it in English or Italian?


message 2061: by happy (last edited Mar 23, 2013 02:56PM) (new)

happy (happyone) | 2782 comments If you haven't read it, I really liked Norwich's history of the Byzantine empire (the trilogy not the one volume abridgement)

Byzantium (I) The Early Centuries by John Julius Norwich
Byzantium The Apogee (Byzantium) by John Julius Norwich
Byzantium (III) The Decline and Fall by John Julius Norwich


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Simona | 1453 comments Terri wrote: "Simona wrote: "I am readingLost to the West: The Forgotten Byzantine Empire That Rescued Western Civilization, on and off, but it seems really interesting."

That does seem interesting, Simona.
Is..."


English.


message 2063: by Eileen (last edited Mar 24, 2013 06:54AM) (new)

Eileen Iciek | 553 comments happy wrote: "If you haven't read it, I really liked Norwich's history of the Byzantine empire (the trilogy not the one volume abridgement)

Byzantium (I) The Early Centuries by John Julius Norwich
A Short History of Byzantium by John Julius Norwich which began my obsession with Byzantine history. The Lars Brownworth book is good, but sort of a light version of A Short History.

I had a question about 2 years ago on some aspect of Byzantine history and noticed that John Julius Norwich had a website that you could write to him on. He very quickly sent me in a good direction for an answer. He was quite modest about his books and called himself a popularizer of history. I have to say it is good to get a popularizer of history because most of the university historians of Byzantine history couldn't write themselves out of a paper bag. They do some fabulous research but their writing is ponderous, verbose, and I would find their books completely uninteresting if I wasn't already obsessed. One book I was looking at recently regularly had paragraphs that went on for over a page. Who does that?

I met Philippa Gregory at a book signing last year and mentioned this issue with academic historians. She agreed wholeheartedly with my opinion.



message 2064: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Mar 24, 2013 02:40PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Eileen wrote: "I met Philippa Gregory at a book signing last year and mentioned this issue with academic historians. She agreed wholeheartedly with my opinion. ..."

I may not be as famous as Philippa Gregory, but I also agree wholeheartedly with your opinion. :)

I am a reader of history non fiction and I find so many authors write for themselves and not for a reader. They want to write non stop without many paragraph breaks or sentence breaks so they do.
That is good if they just want to publish a book, but if they want to be read they should be learning which formats are easier for readers to connect with.


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Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments That's why I like my history written by Monty Python members (travel books too come to think of it). On a serious note, some historians I think feel that each book has to be a new dissertation, and meet 'academic' standards so that it will accepted by that community. In the end, there are few there to win over, it's the 'new' readers they should also aspire to engage.


message 2066: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Absolutely agree. I was going to mention that before, but felt I had waffled too much already and didn't want to bore anybody. :D

Some do write as if they need to meet academic standards. They want the 'work' to be taken seriously by their academic peers. As you say though, there are fewer of them than there are of those who want and interesting view on history.
Nobody finds those monotonous, stuffy boring teachers interesting to learn from, people learn most from those that liven things up or talk in an interactive manner (interactive as in they talk in a two way manner, not a one 'I'm talking you listen' kind of way).


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Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Exactly! Always go for the 'seminar' over the 'lecture' approach. Got better grades for it at Uni, and intend to continue writing that way.


message 2068: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Seminar not lecture.

That sounds like good advice to me. :D


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Eileen Iciek | 553 comments Terri wrote: "Absolutely agree. I was going to mention that before, but felt I had waffled too much already and didn't want to bore anybody. :D

Some do write as if they need to meet academic standards. They wan..."


A few years back I read a book on Jean LaFitte, the pirate. I was interested in him because the first ancestor of mine to settle in the U.S. (or whatever it was at the time) was a Frenchman who was a pirate with the LaFitte bothers. The book was written by an academic historian and was possibly the most boring book I ever forced myself to finish.

Anyone who manages to make pirates boring has got to be an academic historian!


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Terri | 19576 comments Eileen wrote: "Anyone who manages to make pirates boring has got to be an academic historian!..."

Isn't that the truth!!


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Simona | 1453 comments Marina wrote: "Started Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter by Seth Grahame-Smith. So far its pretty nice."

I meant to add it to my TBR list, then I'll do it.


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Terri | 19576 comments I have finished Rome The Coming of the King (Rome, #2) by M.C. Scott

Am about to start (finally!) The Coffee Trader by David Liss


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Dawn (caveatlector) Mark wrote: "i will be interested in hearing your thoughts on Rhapsody Child of Blood (Symphony of Ages, #1) by Elizabeth Haydon Dawn. i have the full series on my reader ready to go soon."

I finished this one over the weekend Mark. 4 star for me. A little too much emotional baggage with the Rhapsody character for my taste. The writing had a few moments of unsmoothness but the world building was great. Definitely worth continuing the series.


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Pride of Carthage. A hit with me right away. Enormous promise.


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Terri | 19576 comments Oh goodie!! I am stoked you have started this. :)


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments @Terri I was pretty excited by it last night. Might be a major wow.


message 2077: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I found it special. He puts a lot into that book.
Traditionally he is a fantasy writer, of renown, and as far as I know he has not written another HF. Which is a shame. I like his intelligent writing.
It isn't for everyone. Some may regard it as slow going, but not for me.
It is epic and I like the epic feel.


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments I see he wrote two histfics about slaves, I think at a much later date in America? Can't stop to investigate right now, late for work. But when you see how his fantasy fares as against his histfic, no wonder he doesn't come back. :(


message 2079: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Mar 26, 2013 02:20PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments He has quite the cult following for his fantasy. The negative feedback he gets for his fantasy writing is what some would regard as negative with Pride of Carthage. Slow paced.

And yet, as mentioned in my earlier post, it is the kind of slow paced I like...although I suppose I would not actually call it slow paced, perhaps dragged out at times.
He definitely goes off on tangents some times. tangents I did not appreciate and could have done without.
But if you like slow pace, slow food, slow reading, slow life, Pride of Carthage should work for you.

p.s I forgot about the two slave hf books.


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Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments I need a wee distraction from historical fiction. Thus, as I make my way through The Hippopotamus Marsh and Rome: The Eagle of the Twelfth I'm getting into a different kind of spy novel with Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy


message 2081: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I watched the movie a couple months ago. If I could rate it, I would say 3 out of 5 stars. :)


message 2082: by Jane (last edited Mar 27, 2013 12:53PM) (new)

Jane | 3480 comments If you're talking about the Masterpiece Theatre TTSS I'm inclined to agree. If, The Eagle, I thought that one was terrible; the book's 1000% better than the movie!


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Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments A Painted House by John Grisham I'm a sucker for Grisham!


message 2084: by Darcy (last edited Mar 27, 2013 06:40PM) (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments I'm pretty sure Rome: The Eagle of the Twelfth hasn't been made into a film. Has it?

There was a Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy tele series in the UK during the '80s? Maybe 70's anyway, that was quite good, but I've not seen any of the films.

Bobby: I'm not a Grisham fan, but I loved that book. (and the movie)


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Nate | 416 comments No, but The Eagle of the Ninth was recently adapted for film.


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments I never read a Smiley book but I used to love those makes with Alec Guinness. So, are the books better??

Ah, but is Terri talking about Gary Oldman in a Tinker, Tailor film? I just saw there was one.


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Terri | 19576 comments Bryn wrote: "

Ah, but is Terri talking about Gary Oldman in a Tinker, Tailor film? I just saw there was one."


Yes. This one. It is is only a few years old.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1340800/

It even stars Benedict Cumberbatch, who seems popular around here, in a starring role.


message 2088: by Paula (last edited Mar 29, 2013 01:38PM) (new)

Paula Lofting (paulalofting) I am currently reading Manda Scott's Rome: The Emporer's Spy. This is the first time I have read anything by this lady. Her prose is just awesome!


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Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments The Odds: A Love Story So much not my usual genre but I really enjoy O'nan's writing so am giving it a try.


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Terri | 19576 comments Paula wrote: "I am surrently reading Manda Scott's Rome: The Emporer's Spy. This is the first time I have read anything by this lady. Her prose is just awesome!"

A terrific book, Paula. I just finished the second one in that series and have also now discovered that it is more than a great book, it is a great series.


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Paula Lofting (paulalofting) Terri wrote: "Paula wrote: "I am surrently reading Manda Scott's Rome: The Emporer's Spy. This is the first time I have read anything by this lady. Her prose is just awesome!"

A terrific book, Paula. I just fin..."


There is something about her style which was similar to Rosemary Sutcliffe's and i was pleased to find out when talking to Manda on twitter that Rosemary Sutcliffe was her inspiration!


message 2092: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments She prefaces Rome: The Eagle of the Twelfth with an explanation of how Rosemary Sutcliff's The Eagle Of The Ninth was the inspiration behind it.


message 2093: by Monica (new)

Monica Davis Just finished Byzantium. Moving on to something a bit different, I read the non-fiction freebie download History's famous women pirates: Grace O'Malley, Anne Bonny and Mary Read and was fascinated by the material on Grace O'Malley. I searched for a fiction work with her as the main character and settled on Morgan Llywelyn's Grania. My first "she-pirate" novel ;-)


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Eileen Iciek | 553 comments Monica wrote: "Just finished Byzantium. Moving on to something a bit different, I read the non-fiction freebie download History's famous women pirates: Grace O'Malley, Anne Bonny and Mary Read and was fascinated ..."

If you want something in fiction on female pirates, there is Jenny Barden's Mistress of the Sea. It is a little difficult to get in the US, but easier in the UK.


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Monica Davis Eileen wrote: If you want something in fiction on female pirates, there is Jenny Barden's Mistress of the Sea. It is a little difficult to get in the US, but easier in the UK. ..."

Thanks Eileen, I'll keep that in mind.


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Terri | 19576 comments She is a fascinating character that Grace O'Malley.
And the country and coastline she called home is equally fascinating. Very rugged with lots of secret coves.


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Tim Hodkinson (timhodkinson) | 577 comments Terri wrote: "She is a fascinating character that Grace O'Malley.
And the country and coastline she called home is equally fascinating. Very rugged with lots of secret coves."


I agree, though really didn't like the Morgan Llywelyn book about her. Its just cliche.


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Tim Hodkinson (timhodkinson) | 577 comments Tim wrote: "Terri wrote: "She is a fascinating character that Grace O'Malley.
And the country and coastline she called home is equally fascinating. Very rugged with lots of secret coves."

I agree, though rea..."


I've always found it fascinating that Gráinne O'Malley seems to have found such a rapport with Queen Elizabeth (the first). I suppose they were both pirate queens in a way.


message 2100: by Monica (new)

Monica Davis Tim wrote: ...really didn't like the Morgan Llywelyn book about her. Its just cliche."

Tim, could you suggest a better novel? I chose this one because I'm familiar with Morgan Llywelyn's writing style.

Tim wrote: "I've always found it fascinating that Gráinne O'Malley seems to have found such a rapport with Queen Elizabeth..."

Agreed. That's what drew me in to read more.


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