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message 101: by Cierra (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cierra Beth wrote: "I love this series so much that through most of it I couldn't put it down, but when Jem proposed and Tessa said yes, I literally through the book and spent an hour cooling off. I just hope that som..."


More like 2 years if it really does come out in September of 2013 :( I honestly don't think I can wait that long.


message 102: by Mic (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mic Well, this series does take place in the Victorian era. People got married much earlier then and remember that Shadowhunters get married young.


Alexandra For those of you wondering why Jem and Will didn't notice that they both were in love with Tessa: Clare addressed the question on her tumblr page.


message 104: by Sarah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sarah Alexandra wrote: "For those of you wondering why Jem and Will didn't notice that they both were in love with Tessa: Clare addressed the question on her tumblr page."

Would you mind telling us why? I can't find the answer on her page.


message 106: by Sarah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sarah Thank you Michella!


message 107: by Emily (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emily Cierra wrote: "Beth wrote: "I love this series so much that through most of it I couldn't put it down, but when Jem proposed and Tessa said yes, I literally through the book and spent an hour cooling off. I just ..."

im pretty sure it comes out in september of 2012, and i know it says 2013 on her website ( after my friend and I finished cp we went to see when the next one came out and spent out whole science period agonizing that we would have to wait so long)
but the rest of the sources i looked at said 2012 and according to pattern that is when it should come out, so i hope that it may have been a terrible type-o


message 108: by Mic (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mic Cassie told her google group that there is no pub date yet. So lets all pray VERY hard for 2012, because I will die if it's '13.


Carol***BeautyandtheBeastlyBooks OMG!!! A whole year! I wish I could at least see the genealogic tree...I'm trying to fit the characteres of MI with the ones in ID (I love ID so much more!!!), but I get stuck haha I also think that Jem is not gonna live, because there's no Carstair in the MI series...
About Will and Tessa...well I don't think they could be together forever, and we know that she appears a century later...unless it's her ghost or spirit who is talking to Magnus in the epilogue of the third MI...well Claire thougth the looks of Tessa remembered her of someone, could it be Jace or someone related to him (that would mean that Tessa and Will had children!!! pleeeease be right!!!)...Can't wait for the final book! Althoug this one was sad - I cried so much when Will discovered that there was no curse and tells Tessa T___T - i liked the end of it. I would prefer Tessa to end with Will, but that would be too soon!!! Congratulations on Cassandra Clare for one more AMAZING book!!! This series are great! Especially The Infernal Devices one!!!


message 110: by Chyna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chyna i haven;t even read the book yet!!! wahhhhh
cries weeps sobs boohoo :(
i want to know what happens
does will really love tessa?
does tessa love will?


message 111: by [deleted user] (new)

am I the only one who thinks that if jessamine got over her anti-shadowhunter attitude...

jessamine + gabriel?


Carol***BeautyandtheBeastlyBooks Chyna wrote: "i haven;t even read the book yet!!! wahhhhh
cries weeps sobs boohoo :(
i want to know what happens
does will really love tessa?
does tessa love will?"


Yes, Chyna!!! They love each other, but it was hard for them to let the other know...Tessa also loves Jem, Will's best friend...and now she's engaged to him T___T


message 113: by Ferdy (last edited Dec 19, 2011 09:22AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ferdy Alisa wrote: "am I the only one who thinks that if jessamine got over her anti-shadowhunter attitude...

jessamine + gabriel?"


Yes Jessamine and Gabriel would be brill.. their personalities would totally clash.. I think Gabriel and Cecily could be good too - I mean can you imagine Will's reaction to that.


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ikr? and isabelle is kind of like jessamine...


message 115: by [deleted user] (new)

Alisa wrote: "ikr? and isabelle is kind of like jessamine..."

as for gabe and cecily? alec's middle name is gideon (not sure what to make of that) maybe gabriel realised that gideon was right and changed his ways, then named his son gideon to honor his brother??

hurry up CoLS and CP2!!!


Carol***BeautyandtheBeastlyBooks Yeah, I liked this idea! There's another theory...maybe maryse maiden name was carstairs, so jem could end up with cecily, because, alec looks like Will (like Magnus thought), and Cecily is the spitting image of her brother...So Maryse could be the daughter of Cecily and Jem. But if <3


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Carol wrote: "Yeah, I liked this idea! There's another theory...maybe maryse maiden name was carstairs, so jem could end up with cecily, because, alec looks like Will (like Magnus thought), and Cecily is the spi..."

I thought so too...
idk maybe...
we'll just have to wait and see


message 118: by Mic (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mic Alec's middle name is Gideon??? No way! Maybe it's just a common Shadowhunter name? *shrugs*


message 119: by Apollo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Apollo It was sad that Tessa got engaged to Jem. Then Will found out about the curse not being true and then Cecily turns up at the end. I can't wait for Clockwork Princess!!!!!!!


message 120: by Chyna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chyna Carol wrote: "Chyna wrote: "i haven;t even read the book yet!!! wahhhhh
cries weeps sobs boohoo :(
i want to know what happens
does will really love tessa?
does tessa love will?"

Yes, Chyna!!! They love each ot..."

omg i'm going to DIE


message 121: by Yvonne (new) - rated it 5 stars

Yvonne Somehow... I think one of them may become immortal. Anyone remember how Alec asked Magnus if he wanted to make him immortal? And then Magnus said no such thing comes without a price? Maybe Magnus tried and something went wrong.

But we can never know; Clare is one of the best authors when it comes to throwing EVERYTHING you thought you knew right off track. Seriously, you NEVER know what is going to happen XD


ȘᎯɱᎯɴτħᎯ I always knew Demon Pox was somehow going to come into play. DEMON POX, OH DEMON POX.


ȘᎯɱᎯɴτħᎯ Melissa wrote: "I also think that Tessa is related to the Starkweathers. I think this is the reason Alouiscious recognizes her and is shocked. I'm thinking maybe he knew her mother or her mother's mother.

Why..."


I really like your theory! I've never thought about the Starkweather's but I kept on wondering why he kept on giving her this look! I love how you supported it with the evidence of the changeling!If you're right I so give props to you!


message 124: by Amiamo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amiamo Carol wrote: "Yeah, I liked this idea! There's another theory...maybe maryse maiden name was carstairs, so jem could end up with cecily, because, alec looks like Will (like Magnus thought), and Cecily is the spi..."

but it said in MI that maryse's last name is trueblood, why would her middle name be carstairs when its her dad's last name, if she is indeed cecily and jem's daughter


message 125: by Rania (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rania This book gave use a few anwers. but we are open minded again. and it was a cliffhanger!! why does CC do this to us. its torture!! my heart is broken for will :(


Chisom everyone is saying that Tessa and Jem getting engaged was the most horrible thing ever and i agree but also disagree. I mean u gotta admit how brilliant cassandra was for making that jawbreaker up. I bet nobody saw it coming and i just love the shocking surprise in book. It sure those make it even more thrilling. Anyway what i as saying is that i love Will and this surprise engagement made it impossible to not want to read the next book immediately and i think that's what cassa was aiming for...


message 127: by Edwina (last edited Jan 11, 2012 10:28PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Edwina i love this series more than the mortal instruments, i love will more than jace and I am dying to see this book on silver screen!!! i really hope this guy, nicholas hoult would be our will <3



Whiskersxxx Edwina wrote: "i love this series more than the mortal instruments, i love will more than jace and I am dying to see this book on silver screen!!! i really hope this guy, nicholas hoult would be our will <3
"


totally agreed!! ^_^
and wow! nicholas hoult's hot! >_<


message 129: by Jackie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jackie Unfortunately, it is my understanding that this series is only going to be a trilogy. I love the setting, time period, and characters. Plus, after reading Clockwork Angel, IT is what set me to reading the Mortal Instruments series. I had been anticipating the release of Clockwork Prince and it most definitely did NOT disappoint!! I love that Clare weaves characters from the MI series into this cast of characters as well, especially Magnus Bane. He is truly one of my favorites from both, even if he is just a supporting character.

As for Will and Jem not realizing the other was in love with Tessa...that is fairly easy to explain. Will was so caught up in trying to break the nonexistant curse he couldn't see the forrest for the trees and Jem was so focused on Tessa and actually having the love he never thought he would he was blind to pretty much everything else. I feel for Tessa because I believe she loves them both in different ways for different reasons.


Katie.R Jfenwick wrote: "Unfortunately, it is my understanding that this series is only going to be a trilogy. I love the setting, time period, and characters. Plus, after reading Clockwork Angel, IT is what set me to read..."

What? Just three book, but how? It is so much that we don`t know of yet! And how are CC going to write all that in one book?
Yeah, I know what you mean! Just brilliant!
Aww, I love Magnus Bane, I is a special character for sure, I hope that CC, is going to write more about him, have like a of spin when he is the main character.


message 131: by Halee (new) - rated it 5 stars

Halee After reading this book, I was so TORN between Jem and Will!!!! My heart broke for Will when he told Tessa about the curse, but I was just SO happy when Jem proposed to her!!!! In LOVE with this series.


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Steffi wrote: "I hate the fact das Jem and Tessa are now engaged, but i think Tessa did the right thing by not braeking up with Jem. Hopefully Jem will end the engagement so that there can be a happy end for Will."
I AGREE


message 133: by Jenice (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenice anyone else angry with where the book ended?! cuz i certainly am!! you cant jsut end it there!! ughhhhhhhh im dying to know whats to come!!!


message 134: by Jackie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jackie Katie.R wrote: "...I hope that CC, is going to write more about him, have like a off spin when he is the main character...."

I think a Magnus Bane spin off or even another series where he is a main character, perhaps from a different time period, would be brilliant!! Clare has such a huge talent for telling stories and nailing details of each period that you feel like you are actually in that moment seeing things as they were/are...LOVE her writing and would definitely read a Bane book!!


message 135: by Jackie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jackie Halee wrote: "After reading this book, I was so TORN between Jem and Will!!!! My heart broke for Will when he told Tessa about the curse, but I was just SO happy when Jem proposed to her!!!! In LOVE with this se..."

You just can't help but love both Jem AND Will!! Truly an impossible love triangle.


message 136: by Dana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dana Emily wrote: "oh my goodness it was soooo good I was crying on the floor for will I personally love will soo muchh!!!!! I think that Jem may possibly... die in the next book.. I know that it sounds crazy but I f..."

I totally understand what you mean by Jem possibly dying in the next book, I think he will realize that they are good together and at the last min give his ok for them to be togther....I know how crazy it sounds but if we see the connection Jem can't be blind totally to it, he has to see it....


message 137: by Dana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dana Michelle wrote: "You know something I found really odd was that Will and Jem were unaware that the other was in love with Tessa. It wasn't like they were being subtle about it since Sophie and Jessamine noticed. I ..."

Maybe that is why it is hard to ditinguish thier feeling from those of the other


Katie.R Jfenwick wrote: "Katie.R wrote: "...I hope that CC, is going to write more about him, have like a off spin when he is the main character...."

I think a Magnus Bane spin off or even another series where he is a mai..."


I know! :) CC is brilliant and MB, will be a big hit!!!


Casandra Lockett I heard CC is writing another shadow hunter series taking place in LA five or six years after the MI series. So maybe we can see some of those characters make a kameo. But she did mention to look out for characters we meet in MI who are 12-13 years old, because they will be of age and out and about during the new series. I believe it is called Dark Artifices. (just went and looked it up. its posted on her blog). I also love how she wove the characters in through the 150 years like Tessa and Magnus. I hope we get to know post ID Tessa in the next book, but I'm afraid that would give too much away about the last ID book. So she will probably save Tessa involvement for the Last MI book so we will have already read the last ID books. But I have been know to over think things too much ;)


message 140: by [deleted user] (new)

it sucks that Tessa's marrying Jem! when he proposed and she said yes, i was so angry i cried a little bit. i mean, yeah, Jem's a sweetie, but come on! Will for the win! they better get together in the next book.


message 141: by Rania (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rania Bridgette wrote: "it sucks that Tessa's marrying Jem! when he proposed and she said yes, i was so angry i cried a little bit. i mean, yeah, Jem's a sweetie, but come on! Will for the win! they better get together in..."

I agree. Tessa and Will belong together. tessa doesnt love jem the way she loves will. and her heart is still with will, so not fair for jem or will. i think tessa will break jems heart, only cuz sophie is so sure she will.


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mmm, and i think she is more in love with the IDEA of being in love with Jem. because even once she's engaged to him, she has to tell herself that it's JEM she's marrying, not Will. she's obviously head-over-heels for Will.


message 143: by Hannah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hannah Guys Cassandra Clare has made it very clear the Tessa IS truly in love with Jem just as much as Will, that's what makes it a love triangle. The only reason it wasn't as obvious to tessa that she loved Jem cause she was so conscious of being pushed away by will and her feeling crept up on her We all know Will was forced to push Tessa away but by pushing her away that's what brought Jem and her together


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Edwina wrote: "i love this series more than the mortal instruments, i love will more than jace and I am dying to see this book on silver screen!!! i really hope this guy, nicholas hoult would be our will <3
"


he's too baby faced for Will....


message 145: by Claire (new) - rated it 5 stars

Claire Hannah wrote: "Guys Cassandra Clare has made it very clear the Tessa IS truly in love with Jem just as much as Will, that's what makes it a love triangle. The only reason it wasn't as obvious to tessa that she lo..."

I very much agree with this! I don't think Tessa and Will should be together, it's too obvious and too much like Clary and Jace being together in MI.


message 146: by Maria (new) - rated it 3 stars

Maria I think this is Clare's best book yet! I love how she always has so many twists and turns. It makes it pretty much impossible to stop reading! Loved it!! :D


Shannon I liked the book a lot. But the outcome with Will and Tessa broke my heart! I was hoping they'd be together, but that's not what happened.


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