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Why do you think people hate twilight so much?

everyone else loves? I know you like twilight. But thats too much. Maybe people just dont like the movie.

everyone else loves? I know you like twilight. But thats too much. Maybe people just dont like the movie."
Loved the movies hate that taylor no acting skills to save his life got cast

everyone else loves? I know you like twilight. But thats too much. Maybe people just dont..."
I hated the movies. The books were wonderful. I didnt like Bella. Edward was...ehh....


everyone else loves? I know you like twilight. But thats too much. Maybe peo..."
Gail wrote: "H.K. wrote: "Gail wrote: "Emilee wrote: "because you get attention when you say you hate something everyone else loves"
everyone else loves? I know you like twilight. But thats too much. Maybe peo..." true but tl was horrible the character as well jacob was filler

In truth, I want to like this series. The concept is brilliant. I just feel that Stephenie was playing safe, or sticking to her principles too hard, so every time she had a chance to do something awesome, she threw it away for her wishes. She ignored her characters and how they were telling her what they wanted (writer thing),that's a death sentence for me. She forced Jacob to love Bella, then forced him to love her child (sorry, it was forced), she set up for an epic battle but got squeamish and had a battle of the minds instead. She had them constantly talking about death without any resolution for death. She spent three and a half novels setting up and reaffirming her cannon then threw it all away so her precious Bella would know no real hardship. She barely researched anything, pretty much all her research is written in as Bella's research. She didn't spend the time thinking about how teenagers talk, or the differences between our era and past eras and how she could show that in speech. She told us of Bella and Edward's love but I could never feel it - she got the emo moments in new moon down pat, so she knows how to express feelings, so there's no excuse for it. Her grammar sucks in the internal monologues.
So even though I wish I could like it, the above get in the way. That's why I can love the idea, and nothing else. I can't be the only one feeling like that, right?

In truth, I want to like this series. The concept is brilliant. I just feel that Stephenie was playing safe, or sticking to her principles too hard, so every time sh..."
i completely agree with you, all those little things get in the way and i totally agree about the part with edward and bella , there is no really connection or chemistry between them and it makes it hard to believe that they really love eachother

most twilight haters watched the movies. 4 out of 10 read the books and still hate it. Everyone has their own opinion.
Irina wrote: "Ask anyone who hate Twilight serial if they had read it - and you will hear, "No, but..." I don't love the serial, however I think that before rejecting a book completely one should at least read i..."
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And that is not true. I've read all the books and saw the movies: still hate them. Your argument is invalid.
*series*
And that is not true. I've read all the books and saw the movies: still hate them. Your argument is invalid.

ahahaha. must be the plot. cliche, no?
XDD It is! And it's no help that the 'vampires' sparkle. If the book was about blood thirsty (literally I must say) fairies, I might have a different view of it.

When the book said edward sparkled I thought that it was like, when you put glass in sunshine it sparkles a bit? I didnt think they would literally throw glitter on him....

but the bloodthirsty fairies sounds like ans awesome plot! XD

Please read my reply at the end of the last page, you will actually see the well reasoned argument most twihaters have, rather than your speculation. See also, those people who think it's from the films (when I could watch Jackson Rathbone all freakin' day)


It had potential but Edward was a flat, one dimensional, fairytale "prince" and way too mothering and Bella was a generic teenage emotional female who was told she was perfect.

You should watch the last one, there are 20 epic minutes. Until they Dallas that shit.

I YouTube those 20mins, just the fight scene, it was fun to watch but annoying knowing it was a fake out. If I didn't know about the Dallas switch, I might have seen it, hoping for a better ending, than just people standing around talking.

And don't forget that the author's writing style is also very flat and uninteresting. In all honesty, my 12 year old sister could have written a better book.

I've read all the books as well (in all honesty, hoping that they would get better, and they didn't), and I still have read far better material than Twilight.


Funny, I don't remember anything about this. Just because Meyer called Bella these things doesn't mean she was. She certainly didn't show us this in her work.
April wrote: "I also think that Stephenie Meyer is an awesome writer for coming up with this original idea. "
I've read better fanfics about vampire love stories on wattpad. I would hardly call this "original".

Funny, I don't remember anything about this. Just because Meyer called Bella these things doesn't mean she was. She certainly..."
Really, you wouldn't call it original? Her vampires are a completely different species that no other book has. Next time you read a vampire book about a sparkling vampire (not making fun, original idea, and I like it) who does not drink human blood who has a half human/half vampire baby that ends up falling in love with a grown werewolf, I'd love to hear about it.

Funny, I don't remember anything about this. Just because Meyer called Bella these things doesn't mean she ..."
I think i get it, maybe she meant that the concept isn't that original. The details are, but so are all details in books but the whole falling in forbidden love, having the girl be 'special', and the boy be brooding with a dark side, then a love triangle blah blah blah, it has all been done a million times before and since. xxx Not saying your wrong, just making a point ;)

Funny, I don't remember anything about this. Just because Meyer called Bella these things do..."
Thanks, but the main concept doesn't always have to be original. I mean i understand that people get sick of love triangles. But honestly, a lot of those happened after Twilight. Not all of them, I know, but after Twilight, people loved that so other authors decided that;s whats popular.


I think it could have had a larger part in the storyline, rather than how long Bella was going to lead Jacob on. Even with the books the same up until they have vampires visiting in breaking dawn, couldn't there then have been a greater exploration into that choice of lifestyle? It would have given the other vampires more of an understanding and given the final battle another layer.
I think my biggest problem with the whole series lies in what happens after Bella gives birth, the amount I would change just from that point ...

Maybe, i like love triangles, i liked them before i read Twilight, if anything the Twilight triangle kind of put me off them for a while. The vampire sparkly stuff is original, i didnt like it personally, but you are right. Twilight pissed me off, not because it was AWFUL or because i hate it, because i don't, but because it's made out to be this amazing piece of literature, which it really isn't. SO many other books that are also original are much better, and they don't get any credit, if Twilight wasn't such a big deal i'd probably just think it was rubbish and never talk about it again like with other novels i havent liked.
Plus i think vampires should be badass and even killers. Twilight kind of ruined the image of vampires a bit, and i am annoyed by that. x

I think it could have had a larger part in the storyline, rather than how long Bella was going to lead Jacob on. Eve..."
I do get mad every time Bella shows slight feelings for Jacob. But of course, that's the Team Edward in me talking. :)

Maybe, i like love triangles, i liked them before i read Twilight, if anything the Twilight triangle kind of put me ..."
Even though I don't really have the same opinion, I totally get what you are saying. I hate when books look and sound amazing, and I don't like them. Reading (for me) takes a while, and I don't want to waste that time on something I don't like, so I totally see where your coming from. Just not the series for you. :)


Vampire baby, I first came across it through Cristopher pike, his vampire series. Everyone thought the baby was evil at first but turns out to be good, and it also grew super fast too.
Sparkling thing is original but is it good originality??? I found them only sparkling under bright light the most unbelievable part out of the book. Surely, they'd sparkle a little bit with regular light. I just can't accept that they can go from nothing to super blinding rainbow shiny light show, and nothing in between.
Experience and time didn't make twilight that original for me.

yeah, I agree that that doesn't really make sense.

Funny, I don't remember anything about this. Just because Meyer called Bella these things do..."
This is exactly what I meant.
Jordan wrote: "Really, you wouldn't call it original? Her vampires are a completely different species that no other book has."
....Faeries? LOL If that's the case then no, sparkling faeries aren't exactly original either.

There are Team Edward fans and Team Jacob fans, and then there are Team hit Bella upside the head with a brick, Jacob move on and find a love interest who doesn't give emo's a bad name, Edward get a FUCKING personality for five minutes, all you other sparkly people (I simply REFUSE to call you vampires) fuck off and kill some people, in the words of Damon Salvitore "Your a vampire, vampires kill people, get over it" fans...guess which one i am.
I honestly just thought it was rubbish. There are plenty of reasons, bit i can't be fucked to list them, it's mostly just because compared to other books Twilight IS rubbish. Simple as, end of. xxx But if others people feel differently then thats fine, i think your crazy, but everyone one can think what they want.

Read the series, watched the first two movies and came to the conclusion that the movies were much better than the books and still immoral and self-indulgent. As with most terrible books, they lend themselves to better movies, just as Jaws by Benchley did. The shark was a lot more believable however.

1. The characters were shallow, stupid, and bored me.
2. It was stereotypical, love-at-first-sight, ridculous...
3. the plot or writing didn't hook me and I wasn't that interested
4. everytime I talk about a YA book that has vampires or werewolves or something of the sort in it people roll their eyes, give me this look, thinking it must be rubbish that only silly teenage girls like. I know this preconception was started by Twilight. Not all Young Adult books are garbage, I wish people would stop judging a whole genre based on one book series. .-.
the list goes on and on...
However, it did make the YA genre a whole lot more popular, so I'll give it that.




Hmm, how about The Vampire Diaries (published in the 90s)? They had vampires abstaining from human blood. In fact, in VD the main vampire actually drank animal blood. Now where have I heard that before?
In fact, trying to or just outright not drinking human blood is usually a staple amongst "good guy" vampires from various media (mostly found in children's programming.) Vampire High, Vampires, Pirates and Aliens, The Count from Sesame Street, Buffy/Angel (and Spike, sometimes!) Blade, Duckula, the Daren Shaw book series, Interview with a Vampire just to name but a few!
Vegetarian Vampires are so common that it's actually considered a god damned trope!
The Sookie Stackhouse Mystery series, known also as "True Blood" (also published in the 90s) has a vampire and werewolf in it's center love triangle and has vampires not drinking real human blood!
The Dhampir (common name for human/vampire hybrid or "baby vampire" again predating SMeyer by at least a few years!) "falling in love" with the Werewolf was fucking creepy. It might not have been intended to be, but it just was. Eww pedowolf!
Sparkling vamps? Pfft. Are they supposed to be predators or disco balls?
And if they're a separate god damned species, why are they called vampires!?


That being said, I don't think it's the reason why people hate it. A lot of the people who do don't know the first thing about literature anyway. They hate it because it was popular. They hate it because little screaming 12 year olds love it, and they think those kids are both annoying and stupid (they are not stupid, just saying). And most of all, it has become a trend to hate Twilight. By now it is standard. By now it's common knowledge that it's not good.
What I personally have against it is that it romanticizes slightly manipulative relationships, and that it's mostly just wish fulfillment (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php...)
But who the hell am I to bash people for enjoying something? Who am I to talk about quality of books? So many people have found joy in the Twilight series, so while it might not be a literary masterpiece, it has done something good for humans, and that is at least as good a deed.
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So true