Twilight
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Why do you think people hate twilight so much?
For me , the main reason for that hate is because of the movie more than the story .I liked the book but not the movie , i disliked the way Bella has acted in the movie and Edward :\ .
In regards to the OP's original question, I don't exactly dislike Twilight. In fact, when they first came out, I devoured them...like they were delicious freshly baked chocolate chip cookies....that was a mistake to mention cookies at midnight, anyway...I was 17 when I picked these up on a whim based on the fact that one of my friends was reading them. Voila, I was instantly a twi-hard. I even stalked the message boards on IMDB. Yes, you can gawk and laugh now. I made a shirt, went to a midnight release party of Breaking Dawn, which subsequently ended in me owning two copies of the damn thing. Don't ask me why. Soon after the movie came out I had already lost interest in all the star-crazed fandom. The movie sucked, and you know exactly WHAT it sucked. I cannot believe that they screwed it up so bad. But, at the same time, it now confirms that my review of the book that I read five years ago, is correct. It was a good read at the time when I was a young, impressionable high school kid. Now that I actually have a brain, I can't even read the books again because of how frivolous they seem. Tried to read Twilight again in college, but no cigar ladies and gents.
Bottom line, this post is hella long but it basically is saying. You like it? Great. Good for you. I liked it once too. Then I grew out of it, watched all the horribly directed and acted out movies, and now I am suddenly wishing for a hammer to smack myself with because I have the sheer stupidity to want to finish out the movies because of a promise I made to the blonde, 17-yr old self that I used to be that I would see all the movies despite their apparent suckiness. And yes, that last sentence was meant to have horrid punctuation and said all in one breath, you should try it. I think I am done now. Therefore, end rant. :)
PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND IMMATURE!!!OMG GAY VAMPIRES THEY SPARKEL
I mean what's wrong with there sparkelness it's tacky but it makes them unique
i dont think bella is pathetic,shes human.and in this story she is surrounded by supernatural beings.shes only human.even some girls would go screaming but she didnt cause she loves edward.....
Tyler wrote: "I think it has something to do with the lack of substance in the series. There's no overarching theme that brings a message to the readers, Huckleberry Finn tackled racism, The Lion, The Witch and ..."i can get what youre saying.i didnt like the twilight saga at first but i liked the idea of love that is diffrent you know.but i get what your saying
Katniss Marie wrote: "PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND IMMATURE!!!OMG GAY VAMPIRES THEY SPARKEL
I mean what's wrong with there sparkelness it's tacky but it makes them unique"
NO....vampires just dont sparkle, i LIKE vampires, sparkles just make them seem like barbies or something...it's just....WRONG! Im sorry i respect your opinion but us 'stupid and immature' people know vampires are meant to be badass end of... ;)x
Ellese wrote: "In regards to the OP's original question, I don't exactly dislike Twilight. In fact, when they first came out, I devoured them...like they were delicious freshly baked chocolate chip cookies....tha..."You summerized it so well!I agree with everything you said, specially part 'Then I grew out of it, watched all the horribly directed and acted out movies, and now I am suddenly wishing for a hammer to smack myself with because I have the sheer stupidity to want to finish out the movies because of a promise I made to the blonde, 17-yr old self that I used to be that I would see all the movies despite their apparent suckiness' .Lol, and I thought I was the only one;) I really despise the movies but I'm gonna watch the last one anyway and I'm gonna talk about how horrible it was later and I cant help myself:D
I didn't enjoy the books that much because I didn't feel I had enough reason to invest in wanting Bella and Edward to be together.Here are the things that turned me off and divested me of any desire to root for the protagonists:
She loves him, why? Because he's beautiful. I like to look at pretty men as much as the next person, but I don't fall in love with them all for ever and ever. Well, aside from Johnny Depp.
He loves her, why? Because her blood smells good. (Well, only if he's eaten recently, otherwise he wants to kill her as fast as he can.)
They were going out for a couple of months, he leaves and she is in an emotional coma for longer than they dated. Get a hobby. I suggest scrapbooking.
I find his stalking to be disturbing. There is no reason to think that having someone in your bedroom, listening to you breathe, is even remotely sexy. It's creepy. He was a human at some point. I think, even in the 1900s it was bad form to break into someone's house and stare at them while they slept. Might have to Google that.
I was more interested in the story when he was trying not to give in to his baser urges to kill her. That's what vampires with depth do. Fight their instincts to be with the woman they love. That conflict would have sold me on the story completely if it had been the primary story arc.
They don't talk about anything interesting. She wants to die, he wants her to live. "Oh yah, did you know Jacob likes you?" "Yah, he's just a friend. I may kiss him later, but I love you fer ever n' ever! Will you kill me now? Seriously, I'm aging at the speed of light here!" Yawn.
I am totally interested in new spins on old legends, but if you're going to create a creature that is indestructible by humans, has no vulnerabilities, and is choosing to live human-blood-free, sparkling is the least of the problems. I'm not interested in vampires that are not threatening to humans. It's just another person that happens to be immortal.
Plot-holes-a-plenty. My favorite: SM states in an interview that her vampires have a venom that is used to change people into vampires and to moisten their mouth. Now, here is Edward, all concerned about Bella missing out on life, but unconcerned when he swaps his venomous spit with her. Wouldn't this change her? Make her sick, at least? Is it inert until it touches blood? What if she has a split lip? This stuff makes me nuts.
I like the premise SM came up with, but the execution was poorly done. I want to feel invested in my protagonists, not read faster to get to the end. I don't want to be more interested in the ancillary characters than the primary ones. And I don't like being promised a huge battle only to have it called off at the last second.
TL;DR: I felt cheated on many levels of a potentially great story.
The reasons I hate Twilight, I would hope I qualify as people, are Bella, Edward, and their twisted relationship. Let me first state that this is not about the Twilight kids and what horrible actors they are. For pete's sake, people just because there is a movie/tv show doesn't mean that can be used as a reference when talking about the book. The books always have important information that is left out of the movie because of time. Bella has no self-esteem and this is never addressed. She pawns off her injury as her being a clutz. She constantly tells herself that she doesn't deserve Edward. The she isn't important or special. She has no hobbies or interests of her own. She is so co-dependent that she tries to kill herself when he leaves. She has delusions. How is it no one sees how mentally unstable this character is either in the book or when they read it. To me, she just a troubled girl looking for an emotionally abusive relationship.
Then there is Edward, talk about controlling stalker. He sneaks into her house and watches her sleep, even though they've only talked a couple of times. He rejects her when her behavior isn't as he thinks it should be. He watches her when she's out with friends. He doesn't allow her to grow up. He wants to bind her in marriage,instead of encouraging her to go to college and have dreams and a life of her own. Plus he has some self loathing issues of his own.
Their relationship is toxic. She obviously has problems with identity and reality. She wants to be a vampire which is forever, but balks at getting married. She's caught up in how cool it is to be a vampire and having a vampire boyfriend, and not paying attention to the fact that he's a real person. And she binds herself to this real person for life. And that real person is not a good guy. Edward may never hit Bella, but he will never let her be her own person.
I get that parents want their kids to read books where the characters don't have sex until they are married. But if I had a teenage daughter I'd be more concerned with showing her examples of healthy relationships where people are allowed to be themselves, are offered support in their decisions, and where problems and feeling are discussed. I hate Twilight not for what it is, but for what it has been lauded as. It's not a romance. It's a tale of two damaged souls that never heal because they are never allowed to grow. Maybe if Edward was allowed to try and commit suicide he would have figured out whether he wanted to live as a vampire or die. Maybe if Bella has been allowed to forget about Edward she would have found her own way in the world. (She probably would have ended up clinging to Jacob). Instead, the romance keeps them locked in a stasis more permanent and damaging than the living stone of Meyer's vampires.
A lot of people arent hating on Twilight because of the books.... the books are really good. People hate on the movie and the people who overract to the movies because honestly i do not think the characters are portrayed well.
Because, they are so poorly written. Don't get me wrong, Stephenie Meyer wrote a compelling story. However, she is a truly terrible writer.
Having been watching Eclipse & New Moon on Showtime lately, it reminds me of how much I couldn't stand Bella in the books and really can't stand her in the movies. The filler from the books is carried over into the movies, just cut down a little (due to time probably). Maybe it's because I knew a girl like her, that poor me I'm no good at anything but you should all worship me and like me & I'm going to play you all type. I guess I would have liked more of the Cullens and the wolfs in the books. More depth to the story.
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Chris wrote: "Bella's a submissive, damsel in distress stereotype of the first order, the kind of cardboard woman you'd expect in a Disney film from the thirties."Bella's submissive? Do you even know what that word means? Bella always tried to (sometimes aggresively) get what she wanted at all times. Even if she was told she couldn't - like being able to see Jacob, she still went off with him. I don't believe she was a damsel in destress either. When your going against supernatural beings, how can a human compete? When I think of Disney films I don't think of Bella at all. Bella is stubborn and wilful, not to mention the last thing she wants to do is get married. Shes not a girly girl by any means.
Heidi wrote: "Chris wrote: "Bella's a submissive, damsel in distress stereotype of the first order, the kind of cardboard woman you'd expect in a Disney film from the thirties."Bella's submissive? Do you even ..."
True but she is still a whiny annoying twit that turns into an ungrateful spoilt bitch, sorry but that is the truth there is no other way to spin it, plus she thinks its ok for a vampire to be sparkly, any woman who thinks sparkly=sexy, they are dead to me it is just WRONG, Vampires are meant to be badass, and sparkly does not inspire being badass, it inspires crappy childrens cards and disney movies, well actually
, simple as, end of. xxx ;)
Liz wrote: "I hate the books because I view "Bella" as the worst type of character for young, malleable women to be reading. She is the worst role-model for young girls. Any woman who attempts suicide to get ..."FYI Bella never attempted suicide, it was Edward who did that
Because the vampires sparkle? hehe...
I truthfully did enjoy the series up until the last book. Ok, the dislike actually started in Eclipse when Edward was literally forbidding Bella to spend time with Jacob. He disabled her truck's engine and she just forgave him like it was nothing! But then in Breaking Dawn I had a serious issue with the half-vampire baby concept. I know this is fiction but I dont believe it would be possible in any way. And then to find out that the only reason Jacob loved Bella was because she was going to be the mother of Renesmee? I dont understand how that made it ok that Bella treated him like crap before. And the ending. The build-up of this huge conflict, the possiblity of a war between vampires, and then nothing happens. But with all of that being said I have continued to re-read this series. Something about it draws me in again and again and I still haven't figured it out! Maybe I keep searching for hidden meaning that isnt there, who knows?
Personally I think they're judging the series unfairly.. Maybe they should watch/read before they judge. I think they're hating on it cause of the crazy twilight fans
I hate it because the concept is just too stupid. The author made vampires sparkle, I mean that's just gay. She ruined vampires. Bella was a bitchy heroine who couldn't decide which guy she wanted & ended up hurting both of them at some point in the series. Jacob was an annoying character who reminded me of a baby. My biggest problem though was that Bella got pregnant from a VAMPIRE. I mean what hell? that's impossible.
I don't see Bella as being indecisive at all. On the contrary, she usually makes up her mind fast and stubbornly works towards getting what she wants. I don't think she ever seriously considered Jacob over Edward. She was always clear about whom she preferred. This idea that she waffled between the two isn't supported by the books.
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "True but she is still a whiny annoying twit that turns into an ungrateful spoilt bitch, sorry but that is the truth there is no other way to spin it"That is a spin, I will admit that. Or you can look at the facts of the book. She never once, out loud whined to anyone. She never opened her mouth and complained. And I never pictured her as annoying, but to each thier own. Personally, if I was reading a book where the main character was annoying, Id STOP READING. (unless I was required to read the book for work or for school) Nor do I remember her ever being ungrateful or spoiled. In fact I remember her being grateful of Edward and almost unbelieving on the luck of love she had. I don't understand your hate for them sparkling, the great thing is I don't have to. I can agree to dissagree that thinking sparkling vampires are wrong. In fact, if a sparking vampire was a deal breaker for me, and made me venomly hate the rest of the book/books I would STOP READING THEM. If I read a book that compelled me to hate the main character, hate other main characters because they sparkle I would also not take the time to make post after post about how much I hated everything. I would maybe make "A POST" and stop taking the time, effort and energy to spread negativity. (Or I would post something substantial with facts from the book which support what I think.) I really dislike it when people use derogatory terms towards women.
Peace wrote: "Mickey wrote: "I don't see Bella as being indecisive at all. On the contrary, she usually makes up her mind fast and stubbornly works towards getting what she wants. I don't think she ever seriou..."
Peace honey, every question I've ever seen you ask is already answered in the post you reply to in quotes. I know there is probably a language barrier. But every post I see someone say something like - "My favorite color is blue" and you quote them and say "whats your favorite color?". I don't know if you know your doing it. Just, if your going to ask a question, make sure its not one someone already answered in the post itself.
you know the twilight saga was originally based on a dream Stephanie Meyer had. she then adapted that dream to the wonderful books we now have. now i think that's pretty amazing being able to adapt a dream into four really thick novels don't you? another question why shouldn't people hate twilight? i love it but why shouldn't they? i mean everyone else is going on defending themselves, saying their entitled to their own opinion then dissing those who hate it!!!!!those who do hate it are entitled to their opinions too!!!!
yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that they dis the rest of us for liking twilight but if they did read the books and they didn't dis us and they still don't like twilight i don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to dislike it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rachel wrote: "yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that they dis the rest of us for liking twilight but if they did read the books and they didn't dis us and they still don't like twilight i don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to dislike it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "You ever have someone say something and have a memory of your life? I had a young adult flash back of an experience I had with my best friend. We moved from Vegas to Seattle. We were in a new town, I didn't have a car so I had to get creative with getting rides to purchase her present, if I wanted to surprise my best friend on her birthday. She had a car and you can't really surprise someone for thier birthday by asking them for a ride to pick up thier present. So I had asked a friend who was going to be in town to give me a ride so I could purchase her present. I was going to be cutting it close because it was on her birthday I was purchasing it, but I asked for the day off. Shes not a great planer, and she had forgotten about her birthday and to ask for the day off. And she begged and begged for me to work it for her. I kept on telling her no because I had planned getting her present. She gave me crap even though she knew why I told her no for YEARS after the fact. I can't believe you didnt work for me on my birthday, blah blah blah. I finally had enough. After 4 years of hearing the same sob story I just looked at her and said, if I knew I was going to be sooo upset for working my birthday that I would bring it up over and over again for over 4 years, you can bet I would of taken the time to ask for the day off instead of blaming a friend. I would of called other stores to see if someone else could cover the shift or I just would of called in sick for the day. Take control of your life and be responsible for it!
Part of me feels the same way about reading a book you don't like. You have every right to not like it. You have every right to complain and complain. But part of me thinks people need to take thier life in thier own hands. If you knew you were going to spend more time and energy expressing your opionon month after month, maybe you should just STOPPED READING THE BOOK. I'm up for a healthy debate. But more people are complaining without any debate. It's hard to have a debate or even take seriously someone who posts "sparkling vampires are gay". They have a right to thier own opionon yes. I have a right to take to heart the derogatory statements from ignorant people.
Aubrey wrote: "Olivia wrote: "or they could just be dissing on the movies because of the crap acting, but have not experienced the awesome experience of the Books :D"agreed!"
Deb wrote: "I think because so many people consider it just a young adult series. I myself love the books although I did think the first and last books were the best. Kristin Stewart isn't my favorite actres..."
I think that may be a real possibility. The movies are a poor representation of the books. If that is all the "haters", are basing their opinions from, then they are off base. Also, I think some of it comes from the fact that people are embarrassed to say they like it because the writing is not the strongest. However, I read a wide range of books and authors and I still very much enjoy the book series. I don't care what others think of that, but I think there are a lot of people who do care.
Heidi wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "True but she is still a whiny annoying twit that turns into an ungrateful spoilt bitch, sorry but that is the truth there is no other way to spin it"That is a spin, I will a..."
Yes sparkiling for me is a deal breaker, i never said it had to be for everyone, im not going to waste time arguing in detail about a series that i didnt like, i read all the books because i wanted to see if it got better, it didnt and because i really hate not to finish a series. Bella was definatly ungrateful i read the series YEARS ago so i dont remember specifics but i now what i felt at the time, in the beggining of book 4 she went on for ages about how much she hated the new care Edward got for her, and how much money she would have, i mean oh poor you, your future husbands really rich, im sorry but if thats a problem for her then she shouldnt have married him. I just felt that their relationship had no substance compared to other couples ive read about, and to call it an epic love story....um no, not unless your twleve and your idea of an epic love story is one controlling man, with no personality that i could see, and a woman who is very co-dependant most of the time, plus she just annoys the hell out of me because she DID whine almost ALL the way through new moon, eventually i started skipping chapters and not missing anything because all she did was moan about a bloke she met a month before. If thats your idea of a good romance then thats your opinion and you have every right to it. Also before you say it, i do not HATE these books that would require effort that this series doesnt deserve. The main reason i dont like the series is because of all the praise it gets, there are books out there that are a thousand times better but dont get even half the praise Twilight gets, and that, as a dedicated cough obssessive cough book lover pisses me off. ;) xxx
Heidi wrote: "Rachel wrote: "yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that they dis the rest of us for liking twilight but if they did read the book..."Also i have to say STOP TAKING THIS ALL SO SERIOUSLY! Twilight isnt a serious series, and its not ignorant to want vampires to be badass, it just good sense ;) xxx plus if your really into taking life into your own hands and dont like people complaining about Twilight then stop reading threads with titles like 'why do you think people hate twilight so much?' give any advice you want as long as your willing to follow it yourself, not being nasty just saying ok.
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Rachel wrote: "yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that they dis the rest of us for liking twilight but if they did..."lol. The fact that they are not the typical badass vamps is why I like it. I am not a fan of the traditional vampires with the throat ripping and blood everywhere. Plus, these books deal with topics that are important to women and I think that is why there is such a visceral reaction from some people. They don't deal with the traditional brutality that comes with a typical vampire story and some people have a problem with that. I look at more from the stand point that there is always room for another pov and this was the perfect balance for me. Just enough violence mixed in with the love story.
A.l.s. wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Rachel wrote: "yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that they dis the rest of us for liking tw..."Thats fair enough i its what you think then im good with it, everyones's allowed their own opinion, for me i guess i have just always thought of vampires as cool and badass, sexy etc... but i suppose your view is a different way of looking at it. I still dont like the idea of vampires looking like childrens christmas cards though, vampires dont have to be evil for me to like them or even killers, i just dont think they should act like tweens either. ;) xxx
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "A.l.s. wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Rachel wrote: "yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that they dis the rest of u..."bol. thanks for the reply. nice to have your pov on it. and nice to have rational back and forth about it. :)
Anna-Kathrin wrote: "The problem I have with Twilight is, that the books are just really badly written. I mean, I do not only read high quality literature, I like some shallow entertainment now and then, but reading Tw..."they aren't Shakespeare, that's for sure. lol, but I still enjoy them.
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Also i have to say STOP TAKING THIS ALL SO SERIOUSLY! Twilight isnt a serious series, and its not ignorant to want vampires to be badass, it just good sense ;) xxx plus if your really into taking life into your own hands and dont like people complaining about Twilight then stop reading threads with titles like 'why do you think people hate twilight so much?' give any advice you want as long as your willing to follow it yourself, not being nasty just saying ok. "I didnt say it was ignorant to want to have badass vampires. Its ignorant to call people gay, like being "gay" is a bad thing to be.
Heidi wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Also i have to say STOP TAKING THIS ALL SO SERIOUSLY! Twilight isnt a serious series, and its not ignorant to want vampires to be badass, it just good sense ;) xxx plus if you..."yeah but its only horrible if you mean it in a horrible way, but i get your point, there IS absaloutly nothing wrong with being gay, but i still think sparkly vamps are stupid, cant help it, i just do. ;) xxx But then again my friend Tom, who is gay, after i asked him if he wanted to go hang out with some of our other, straight, friends he said 'nah, i dont want to hang out with the breeders...its just so unatural', i pissed myself laughing, just the way he said it as if the thought disgusted him, he was joking obviously, but it is kind of the same thing, it depends how you take it. xxx
A.l.s. wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "A.l.s. wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Rachel wrote: "yes i do think it is wrong that the haters (no disrespect intended) don't even read the book first, and that ..."Your welcome i think it should be ok for people to say their opinions without being attacked for it, its what Goodreads is for damn it and we all love books in the end anyway xxx ;)
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "yeah but its only horrible if you mean it in a horrible way, but i get your point, there IS absaloutly nothing wrong with being gay, but i still think sparkly vamps are stupid, cant help it, i just do. ;) xxx But then again my friend Tom, who is gay, after i asked him if he wanted to go hang out with some of our other, straight, friends he said 'nah, i dont want to hang out with the breeders...its just so unatural', i pissed myself laughing, just the way he said it as if the thought disgusted him, he was joking obviously, but it is kind of the same thing, it depends how you take it. xxx "Yeah, I remember going out with my friend Ken, checkin guys out. And there was a really good looking guy who was gay. I remember being sad saying how sad, what a waste of a perfectly good looking man. Ken looked at me in his best diva impression "oh honey, that aint going to waste!".
Heidi wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "yeah but its only horrible if you mean it in a horrible way, but i get your point, there IS absaloutly nothing wrong with being gay, but i still think sparkly vamps are stupid..."I think its good to be able to take the piss out of yourself, it makes life a little easier ;) xxx
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "I think its good to be able to take the piss out of yourself, it makes life a little easier ;) xxx "What a very odd thing to say. My bladder isnt so weak, but I can always use a good laugh.
Kaylee wrote: "They think Bella's character stinks and that Edward is such a dreamy fairytale character. I mean, it's just a book and I don't know why people get so upset over the whole idea of twilight. I person..."Um i was fine with it until the last bit, im sorry but ive never been attracted to emo children with no personality and have a control issue, if thats your type then ok, but its not mine, plus the sparkles make him look like a childrens hand made card. ;) xxx
Peace wrote: "nada wrote: "I hate it because the concept is just too stupid. The author made vampires sparkle, I mean that's just gay. She ruined vampires. Bella was a bitchy heroine who couldn't decide which gu..."What do you mean it's impossible? Vampires are pretend - so wouldn't things they can/cannot do only be imaginary and moot? It's written on the pages, that means within the context of this story it is possible. It happened - whether you like it or not. Impossible things happen all the time in fiction books, FANTASY. Impossibilities. If you don't like to read things that are unreal, surreal, or impossible - stick to nonfiction.
nada wrote: "I hate it because the concept is just too stupid. The author made vampires sparkle, I mean that's just gay. She ruined vampires. Bella was a bitchy heroine who couldn't decide which guy she wanted ..."Once again, if you don't like impossible things happening, stick to nonfiction. Since vampires don't actually exist, they can do whatever they want. And please, be a decent human being and don't use the word 'gay' do describe something you don't like.
Some people love to hate. I think it's just a lot easier to see the hate that people have for Twilight because it's in the media so frequently, since the movies are so popular and one's being released pretty soon. I don't know if there'd be as much of a dislike for it if it wasn't constantly being rubbed in everyone's faces. I love Twilight, so it doesn't bother me when I see the commercials, trailers, and actors/actresses everywhere. But, it would probably bug me if I saw some franchise I hated being promoted tons of times throughout the day. I don't think it has anything to do with the story or the actors as much as it has to do with the constant promotion. It's everywhere lol. absolutely everywhere.
BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Chris wrote: "Bella's a submissive, damsel in distress stereotype of the first order, the kind of cardboard woman you'd expect in a Disney film from the thirties."Bella's submissive..."
Animals in nature adopt certain beautiful traits to hide their danger all the time. And you're definitely wrong, there are several ways to spin it. You're opinion is not fact, it's just that, your opinion. It doesn't have to be everyone else's.
Lea wrote: "Peace wrote: "nada wrote: "I hate it because the concept is just too stupid. The author made vampires sparkle, I mean that's just gay. She ruined vampires. Bella was a bitchy heroine who couldn't d..."Its true that we read fiction because it is just that- not reality. But I do feel that fantasy should have a basis in truth, or at least a plausible explanation for the how and why. In the case of a vampire getting a human pregnant, I didn't feel like there was a good enough explanation to make it seem possible. Even Stephenie Meyer's explanation on her website fell short for me. That is (one reason) why I had a huge problem with the plot of Breaking Dawn
Lauryn wrote: "i think some people are just jealous of what Edward and Bells have!"<Twilight is good in the supernatural department, but it is sort of mushy. Bella's all like "Oh Edward, I love you so much, and she is like " Oh Jacob I jsut don't feel that way about you" She is a liar in that area, but I guess the story is just kinda funky.
I don't think many people hate twilight in fact i feel most people love twilight
Lea wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Chris wrote: "Bella's a submissive, damsel in distress stereotype of the first order, the kind of cardboard woman you'd expect in a Disney film from the thirties..."I know everyone has the right to their opinion, that is just mine, dont take it so seriously, im not going to get into a debate about a series that is based around sparkly vamps and moody emo children, i refuse to. But as i said you feel free to like it if you want. ;) xxx
What Felicia said, definitely.
I think it's the very idea of hating Twilight—I think it has little to do with the books themselves.
I think it's the very idea of hating Twilight—I think it has little to do with the books themselves.
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Laurell K. Hamilton (other topics)V.C. Andrews (other topics)
I know you don't approve it but relationships are simply NOT that black and white. Several women, seemingly normal housewives and soccer moms, are in relationships like this that they love. You don't get to make decisions for others about what is right and wrong.