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[Hannah]

why does everyone mention the sparkling thing when if you are going by old vampire constraints he cant break into her room to watch her sleep either as vampires cant enter a room unless they are invited in ...and who is going to do that so that creepy stalker boy can watch you doze

[Goshgirl]

I don't think that people really hate the actual books. Most people don't even read them. They watch the movies and base their judgments of the books on the films they saw. the films don't do the books any justice. People build their opinions on bad acting in a film that really doesn't even tell half the story. Personally, I think the twilight saga is kind of amazing, but the films are terrible after you've read the books. They leave out too much for the films to be satisfactory.So, really people should read the books first before they decide that they like them or not. If they have and they still don't like them, that's fair enough. But most don't. really, they hate the movies, not the books. That's my opinion anyway... :)

[Heidi]

Jasmine wrote:I think she spent somewhere from 4 to 6 months in that state...and then she tried to hear voices...

And I feel like its been a million years since I've read it. So I could totally be wrong - and sadly I forgot my nook so I can't look it up (because I just moved so my whole home is in boxes). That being said, I remember it only being 3 months. Which I don't believe is terribly long.

The longest I've gone without dating anyone? 3 years.

[Heidi]

Jasmine wrote:When I was in high school I saw a lot more drama queens (guys and girls) then I did..."
What does that have to do with it? Many people have lost loved ones, and most of them cope with it after a healthy grief period (plus it's not like he died he just doesn't want her anymore, from her point of view) without trying to hear voices or almost being put into a mental hospital."

Just because most of them cope with it after a healthy grief period, doesn't mean ALL do. Some people ARE put into a mental hospitals (willing or unwilling). Some people die from a broken heart. Having a break down , being depressed doesn't mean that person is inferior.

[Erin]

Lauryn wrote: "i think some people are just jealous of what Edward and Bells have!"

Not to be horrible or anything but I doubt anyone is jealous of a fictional relationship in which the guy spends 90% of the time trying not to kill her.

[Kayla]

I read all the books in the series and I liked the first book at first but then from the second book onwards, the characters just became too generic and perfect. I couldn't relate with either of them and I really was irked by the fact that on every page, Bella's only thought seemed to be "OMG Edward is so perfect!" And then she goes on to describe every part of his body she finds alluring. Also, the last book was very anti-climatic since I was expecting a big fight to blow up and I was pretty disappointed with how it ended. The movies weren't too good either. Kristen and Rob's acting were terrible and it sounded as if they were just reading from the script. They were like awkward teenagers trying to perform a skit in class. And the dialogues in both the books and the movies were just too cheesy to the point that I wanted to puke.

I wanted to point out that in the book, Bella just couldn't seem to think for herself. She had no backbone whatsoever, always relying on Edward to get her out of tricky situations and when that fails, she turns to Jacob. And I couldn't deal with her being perfect and whatnot. I mean, she was described as "plain" in the first book so why the hell did she end up with four boys chasing after her? And as a newborn, she was perfect. Just simply perfect. Couldn't the author have put something to make me relate to her? Like, I don't know, a roll of flab? A breakout? Something that wouldn't make her seem like a Mary Sue character?

[Morgana_lefay]

Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote:I think she spent somewhere from 4 to 6 months in that state...and then she tried to hear voices...

And I feel like its been a million years since I've read it. So I could totally b..."

there were 4 months mentioned at the end of the chapter - October to January

[Heidi]

Morgana_lefay wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote:I think she spent somewhere from 4 to 6 months in that state...and then she tried to hear voices...

And I feel like its been a million years since I've read it. So I c..."

I stand corrected, 4 months. Which I still don't think is long. Even 6 months I don't think is long. Maybe thats because I'm old? My 12 month lease went by too fast.

[Morgana_lefay]

Heidi wrote: "Morgana_lefay wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote:I think she spent somewhere from 4 to 6 months in that state...and then she tried to hear voices...

And I feel like its been a million years sinc..."

well I think it was closer to the 6 months, but the 4 months were skipped, the next chapter starts with charlie wanting to send bella back to her mom becuase he doesnt know what to do with her

[Gerd]

Heidi wrote: "The longest I've gone without dating anyone? 3 years..."

But you probably did have a life in those 3 years, and not spend the days feeling empty all time, as one could get the impression Bella did.


Kayla wrote: "I liked the first book at first but then from the second book onwards, the characters just became too generic and perfect..."

Exactly, the other two books and breaking dawn probably, too, did feel rather tacked on - and never really added anything to the characters ('cept for Jacob; that said new moon wouldn't have been that bad had she left out the rather ludicrous Edward parts).

[booklover]

well im not sure, diffrent people with diffrent opinions but for me when i read the twilight saga ihad fun enjoyed them, finished them quickly buttt theeen after i finished i was like nowwhat ? like twilight did not affect me , there was no message behnd it, it didnt leave a mark on me, there wasnt any quotes i rememberd ... or any parts that stayed with me and as mentioned it was toooo much of a fairy tell , too unrelastic. so twilight is a fun read but its not a book that will affect you.

[Jasmine]

Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote:When I was in high school I saw a lot more drama queens (guys and girls) then I did..."
What does that have to do with it? Many people have lost loved ones, and most of them cope with..."
Never said the word inferior, I said I thought she was being over dramatic. For crying out loud he didn't die, he just confirmed what she always thought about herself in regards to the relationship.

[Heidi]

Jasmine wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote:When I was in high school I saw a lot more drama queens (guys and girls) then I did..."
What does that have to do with it? Many people have lost loved ones, and most of them cope with..."
Never said the word inferior, I said I thought she was being over dramatic. For crying out loud he didn't die, he just confirmed what she always thought about herself in regards to the relationship. "

So after her first love experience, she isn't allowed to mourn? Bella should be stoic and shut up? In my book, in order to be over dramatic, you would have to... I don't know - get other people involved in the drama (be over dramatic). Telling people you don't want to talk about it, doesn't seem over dramatic to me. Over dramatic would be crying in front of friends, ACTUALLY whinning to them and then saying you don't want to talk about it (after you already did). Over dramatic people that I've seen are usually "look at me, pay attention to me" people.

[Jasmine]

Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote:When I was in high school I saw a lot more drama queens (guys and girls) then I did..."
What does that have to do with it? Many people have lost loved on..."

Mourn? It went beyond that. Well your definition of over dramatic isn't the one from the dictionary so I don't see how that has anything to do with me. I don't know how much clearer I need to be, speaking for myself, I think she was over dramatic. You don't think she got her father involved? Jacob?

[Heidi]

Jasmine wrote: "Mourn? It went beyond that. Well your definition of over dramatic isn't the one from the dictionary so I don't see how that has anything to do with me. I don't know how much clearer I need to be, speaking for myself, I think she was over dramatic. You don't think she got her father involved? Jacob?"

Your comments to me questioning your thoughts MAYBE overdramatic (and thats my opionon, I COULD be wrong). What part of me questioning what you believe have anything to do with "Well your definition of over dramatic isn't the one from the dictionary so I don't see how that has anything to do with me." I don't have to look it up in the dictionary, because I know what it means.
Trying to make this discussion be about you and a personal attack on you, have no interest in me. I thought we were adults and had capability to discuss this. I can agree to dissagree.

And to go back to your point with the dictionary meaning :
dra·mat·ic   /drəˈmætɪk/ Show Spelled[druh-mat-ik] Show IPA
adjective
1. of or pertaining to the drama.
2. employing the form or manner of the drama.
3. characteristic of or appropriate to the drama, especially in involving conflict or contrast; vivid; moving: dramatic colors; a dramatic speech.
4. highly effective; striking: The silence following his impassioned speech was dramatic.

So you believe because she was depressed, that makes her (over)dramatic? That she didn't talk to her father about it or Jacob about it she was overdramatic about it? ( I will accept yes as an answer, its ok to dissagree or bring up other points that support your thoughts.)

[Nalu.chan]

Vanessa wrote: "or is it also because the author made the vampires sparkle under the sun instead of getting burned to ashes? :)"

definitely it! The rest of literature vampires are ashamed by Twilight's redition of their race. Lol

[Lea]

Talía wrote: "Meyer has ripped into pieces vampire’s myth for these reasons:
1.- Vampires are creatures of the night.
2.- They are killers, predators, sinners, lustful creatures. They are everything that means ..."

I've already responded to your ludicrous snobby list, but there's something else that came to me. To start with reiterating the obvious, YOU CAN'T CENSOR SOMEONE'S IMAGINATION. This being said, any creature can do anything the author wants them to. But what I really wanted to say is about the sparkling, why can't we be scared of some thing that's sparkly or beautiful or 'safe-looking.' Have you looked around? Even nature and the animal kingdom teaches us that beautiful, timid-looking things can be dangerous.

[Heidi]

Lea wrote: "I've already responded to your ludicrous snobby list, but there's something else that came to me. To start with reiterating the obvious, YOU CAN'T CENSOR SOMEONE'S IMAGINATION. This being said, any creature can do anything the author wants them to. But what I really wanted to say is about the sparkling, why can't we be scared of some thing that's sparkly or beautiful or 'safe-looking.' Have you looked around? Even nature and the animal kingdom teaches us that beautiful, timid-looking things can be dangerous. "

Like koala bears, they look cute and cuddley - but they are meaner then hell! Honestly, I think evil is best portrayed as attractive, alluring, and seductive. If the devil were here today, I think he would be something you wouldnt want to take your eyes off of. Temptation and damnation wrapped into one.

[Morgana_lefay]

Heidi wrote: "Lea wrote: "I've already responded to your ludicrous snobby list, but there's something else that came to me. To start with reiterating the obvious, YOU CAN'T CENSOR SOMEONE'S IMAGINATION. This bei..."

I think something like this was said in Lord of the rings when the hobbits met Aragorn, that if he was evil, he would be better looking :)

[Faye]

I hate the Twilight series because Stephanie Meyer created a huge climax, and then just said happily ever after! It doesn't happen that way - the conflict still exists! Ugh, I am still mad at that - I will never read another Stephanie Meyer book.

[Heidi]

Talía wrote: "Yeah, most beautiful animals on this planet, such as lions and tigers, are dangerous, but they EAT meat, they kill other animals because that's in they nature and because they need to feed themselves, they don't refuse to kill zebras and they don't become 'vegetarians' for all animals sake, do they? NO."


Generally speaking man is a predator is he not? Like all animals we have the ability to be prey and predator. Some men do become "vegitarians" and some, do not.

[Isabella]

because hollywood did such a great job of blowing it out of proportion.

[Lea]

Talía wrote: "Lea wrote: "Talía wrote: "Meyer has ripped into pieces vampire’s myth for these reasons:
1.- Vampires are creatures of the night.
2.- They are killers, predators, sinners, lustful creatures. They ..."

Sorry, I was at work. Snobby and ludicrous was not really what I was going for, I was just in an irritable mood, so PLEASE disregard that part. It was immature on my part. But the animal kingdom isn't that black and white. Some beautiful things eat meat, some do not. What I'm really thinking is who makes up the irreversible laws of fictional/mythical beings? Who says creatures of the night can't sparkle in the sunlight, maybe that's why they're 'of the night' to begin with.

[Heidi]

Gerd wrote: "Heidi wrote: "The longest I've gone without dating anyone? 3 years..."

But you probably did have a life in those 3 years, and not spend the days feeling empty all time, as one could get the impression Bella did."

Part of me was hesatant to comment on this, and part of me wanted to open the can of worms. What if I was depressed for those 3 years? What if I did have a lack of a life? What it was 1 year instead of the 3 that I felt empty all the time? 1 year where I didn't call my friends, was unemployed and so depressed and numb not only did I lack the energy to be happy, I lacked the energy to be sad. When I started to have the ability to feel again that I felt this amazing loneliness that I needed to stifle that the first relationship that I got into was crap. I needed something, ANYTHING to stifle that loneliness.

In this "hypothetical" situation, am I an whiney girl that needs to get over it? Am I a poor pathetic girl that is overdramatic and lives only for my boyfriend? Is it so over the top its unbelieveable? Some people can and will say yes. Others may say no. At the end of the day part of me thinks, who are you or anyone for that matter, to judge? The other part of me (and this is the optimistic one)that people are more empathetic when it comes to a real live human being. They arent as judgemental if it was thier friend or family or someone they knew.

I think people who have been thru depression may have the ability to relate to Bella, thats all. And because of that, I/we are empathetic. I don't pity her. I don't judge her. I just accept and move on.

[Rob]

I have actually wondered the opposite. Why do people like this book? The only answer that I have ever been able to get from anyone was that it is a good "escape book", and the author is able to capture the psyche of some teenage girls very well. I am not a teenage girl and I do not care about escaping my world, so I could not look past all of the problems in the book. My wife could not either.

The writing was so bad that it was hard to get into the story. It was like trying to take a picture through a muddy window. The only thing in focus is the dirt. Apparently the book was published without an editor or any kind of proofing. It could have been condensed into 30 pages, and the only time that it started to get interesting the author abruptly stopped "showing" what was happening and simply tells what happened. No description and a total lack of vocabulary (no, the word "beautiful" is not descriptive or intended to be used in place of adjectives hundreds of times in the same book) made this book too doggerel and repetitive.

Go read a tried a true classic, and you will see what great authors can do!

[Mickey]

Just so people know, many famous people that managed to do great things have suffered from depression, so it doesn't make you a complete waste.

I'm in the middle of reading a book called Lincoln's Melancholy: How Depression Challenged a President and Fueled His Greatness. It's all about his depression, which was so bad when he was young that his friends went on suicide watch and by the end of his life, he suffered, not just from episodic depression, but from chronic depression (which lasted for years and years). Winston Churchill also suffered from depressive episodes. There's another book that deals with looking at crisis and war leaders and how their mental illness actually helped them lead. It's called A First-Rate Madness: Uncovering the Links Between Leadership and Mental Illness. Maybe if people are interested in learning about mental disorders, these would be good places to start.

[Jasmine]

Heidi wrote: "Jasmine wrote: "Mourn? It went beyond that. Well your definition of over dramatic isn't the one from the dictionary so I don't see how that has anything to do with me. I don't know how much clearer..."
Over dramatic, even if the definition is the same, it is going overboard. How was that a personal attack ?How you perceive going overboard and how I perceive it appear to be different. To me a girl getting dumped by her boyfriend who goes into a near catatonic state for 4 months where her dad thinks she should be hospitalized and then after that selfishly going off and doing crazy things that could have gotten her killed just to hear his voice (not even his voice it was a figment of her imagination), is over the top. To you apparently it isn't but to me it is which is why I said you seemed to have a different definition. I said she brought them into it. Charlie with her crazy nightmares and behavior once again during the course of her voice hearing phase she almost got killed and raped, he would be affected. Later she was using Jacob to make her feel better and then once Edward came back she dropped him. I was frustrated because it seems as though just because you don't think she was over-dramatic means that I can't, which isn't true I can think whatever I want.

[Gerd]

Rob wrote: "I have actually wondered the opposite. Why do people like this book?"

You could say that twilight is literary instant gratification. :)

It gives you a sugary high, if you're into it.



Jasmine wrote: "...during the course of her voice hearing phase she almost got killed and raped, ..."

This, I believe is "twilight" you are thinking of not "new moon"; the Port Angeles chapter.

Jasmine wrote: "...Later she was using Jacob to make her feel better and then once Edward came back she dropped him."

Not true.
Where do people get the idea from that Bella "dropped" Jacob (or that she used him when just the opposite is true, see "eclipse")?
There wasn't anything between them, and on the contrary, she still held to him when every smart girl would have sent him in the desert - after he overstepped his borders, (and again in "eclipse" she holds to him against all better reason).

[Lea]

Talía wrote: "Lea wrote: "Talía wrote: "Lea wrote: "Talía wrote: "Meyer has ripped into pieces vampire’s myth for these reasons:
1.- Vampires are creatures of the night.
2.- They are killers, predators, sinners..."

That's the thing - I love vampires. I just don't see why everyone keeps saying vampires 'cant,' do one thing or another. They're made up, Bram Stoker didn't own the idea.

[Lacey]

Originally vampires could go out during the day, they didn't burn, fry sizzle or sparkle. Bram stokers made mention of Dracula being out in the day light. The burning sizzling stuff came in later movies can't remember what ut was could but they didn't want to be sued for copyright so they mixed it up abit which is where the sun light factor came in.
Alai they are mythical creatures they could be purple and have 6 eyes if that's how the author wants to write them.

[Mickey]

Rob wrote: "Go read a tried a true classic, and you will see what great authors can do!"

I already read classics, and I still enjoyed Twilight. It's a pity you couldn't find anything of value in the book, but enjoyment in reading is a subjective thing (for instance, I don't think The Count of Monte Cristo was very good. Les Miserables was infinitely better).

[Hannah]

i am more worried about how becoming a crazy stalker became our romantic ideal of a man rather than if he sparkles !!!!

bella wake up and smell a restraining order love

[Rob]

Gerd wrote: "You could say that twilight is literary instant gratification. :) It gives you a sugary high, if you're into it."

That tells me very little. In what way does it give you a sugar-high like sensation? Is it intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, or erotically stimulating? If you were able to get some benefit out of it, good for you. Some people like black licorice, but I would rather have a filet mignon. Popcorn books are fine, if you like them, but I prefer something that is a little more sophisticated. I am not trying to slight the book but to classify it properly. Do not try to convince me that Twilight is great literature.


Mickey wrote: "I don't think The Count of Monte Cristo was very good."

Wow! I never thought that I would hear someone that took the time to read the Count of Monte Cristo speak of it in a deprecating manner. I love that book, but again, everyone has different tastes. If you can enjoy everything from Twilight to Les Miserables, good for you. Perhaps unfortunately for me, I am more skewed towards the more refined side of the scale. I am sure that part of that is due to the fact that my undergrad was in English.

[Jasmine]

Gerd wrote: "Rob wrote: "I have actually wondered the opposite. Why do people like this book?"

You could say that twilight is literary instant gratification. :)

It gives you a sugary high, if you're into it...."A
I should have been more clear, dropped him as a potential romantic partner which she seemed to be building up to.

[Mickey]

Rob wrote: "Wow! I never thought that I would hear someone that took the time to read the Count of Monte Cristo speak of it in a deprecating manner. I love that book, but again, everyone has different tastes. If you can enjoy everything from Twilight to Les Miserables, good for you. Perhaps unfortunately for me, I am more skewed towards the more refined side of the scale. I am sure that part of that is due to the fact that my undergrad was in English."

The fact that a book is lengthy doesn't really impress me all that much. I don't think it automatically confers special literary status to a book. (If you are so "refined", as you call it, you probably find Stephen King distasteful, and he regularly writes books with 800-1.200 pages.)

So, you are saying that an undergrad degree in English prevents you from enjoying books? I'm glad I dodged that bullet. That changes my perception of an English degree from being useless to being actually harmful.

[Keiley]

Jealous? You couldn't be further from the truth. There is nothing in the universe I want less than a "romance" like the one Edward and Bella have. The entire book, particularly the romance (Like there was anything else in there) is ridiculous. And I can give you plenty of reasons why.
Their relationship is borderline abusive. Like legitimately abusive. That's not sexy or wonderful or romantic, it's wrong. Very very wrong.
Bella herself is the worst possible role model for young girls that I can think of. She pursues Edward even when she knows he's very capable of ripping her to shreds, and probably will. She puts herself in dangerous situations just for a glimpse of him. She's so overly dependent that it's sickening. She never thinks of anyone but herself, she's selfish and a terrible friend. I can't think of anything worse for younger girls to be reading because people try to some degree to imitate what the read and watch. So yeah, not jealous. I just know that I don't think it's good, I don't like either Bella or Edward and I don't want anyone to grow up thinking it's okay to be like that.

[Bonnie]

I think the fact that Stephenie Meyer has sold 85 million copies of her Twilight books would indicate that many, many people love Twilight! I found the books to be wonderful and enjoyed the way they drew me into the story. I really enjoy Stephenie's writing style. She's awesome!!!

[Shannon]

its just because the book became popular and the majority of people don’t want to be a sheep in liking it. but now its swopped your a sheep for hating it. and plus i think the film lowered the books standards. people think of the film first.

[Alexis]

Um, maybe because people just like other books better. i mean that maybe people don't dislike twilight series, they just love other books.

[Lea]

Keiley wrote: "Jealous? You couldn't be further from the truth. There is nothing in the universe I want less than a "romance" like the one Edward and Bella have. The entire book, particularly the romance (Like th..."

I read and watch a lot of true crime and horror stuff. So, I'm just really curious to know do you really think people imitate what they read and watch? That we can't fight those urges when they have nothing to do with our real lives?

[Sasha]

I personally thought the books were great but after the anti-climaxing movie came out, it just degraded the book. and without reading the book, people judged the book by the movie.

[Lea]

Mickey wrote: "Rob wrote: "Wow! I never thought that I would hear someone that took the time to read the Count of Monte Cristo speak of it in a deprecating manner. I love that book, but again, everyone has differ..."

She's right. If having an undergrad degree in English made you something of a 'book snob' then I'm glad that I never took that route.

[Gerd]

Rob wrote: "That tells me very little.
In what way does it give you a sugar-high like sensation?
Is it ... emotionally ... stimulating?"

This, I would say.


Rob wrote: "Do not try to convince me that Twilight is great literature."

Is it great writing? Heck, no.
But "twilight" was actually a fun read most of the time. I still like it that she had a vampire virgin in a market that is saturated with sex crazed vampires and assorted creatures.


Jasmine wrote: "I should have been more clear, dropped him as a potential romantic partner which she seemed to be building up to..."

Ah, I see.
Yeah, it did look for a moment as if Stephenie wanted to go in that direction.

[Shannon]

Sasha wrote: "I personally thought the books were great but after the anti-climaxing movie came out, it just degraded the book. and without reading the book, people judged the book by the movie."

i think this is true

[Oreva]

The ending was terrible! You can't build up so much climax just to talk it out at the end. That is still getting to me. Bella is too needy. Overall the amount of grammatical errors she had, was shameful. Plus the writing is elementary school writing.

[Janese]

I am finding this entire thread of discussion hysterical! I love that people are so passionate about books (love or hate, people get really fired up about Twilight for some reason).

[Katie]

People probably hate Twilight so much because all the people who loved the books got so excited and worked up for the movie and then the movie was absolutely terrible. The movies brought on some really annoying fans as well. The books were decent and i enjoyed them when i read them but now I am sick of hearing about them. I have moved on from twilight. I won't even go to see the movies.

[Sandra]

In a nutshell... the writing is abysmal, the charaters are unlikable and a story about "vegetarian vampires" is preposterous. If you are a teenage girl, or a teenage girl at heart, then yes, one can see the attraction. But for the vast majority of us who "like to read", we expect a little bit more for our effort. I can't even feel passionate in my dislike. This book(I only read the first...)is a big meh. To each his own.

[Lea]

Katie wrote: "People probably hate Twilight so much because all the people who loved the books got so excited and worked up for the movie and then the movie was absolutely terrible. The movies brought on some re..."

At least you said 'to each his own.' But what does that third line mean? The one that has ' "like to read" ' in it. I love to read, I'm not sure what those quotations imply, but I am a true lover of any written word, I cherish my books. But I keep getting the impression (from several places)that just because I loved Twilight, and am participating in this discussion that I must read nothing but fluff. I've read all manner of stories, and have always taken a special interest in very weird, obscure tales. I have read about much crazier things than vampires that are 100% evil, and books have right and reason to be preposterous. Otherwise, the fantasy genre and its many subgenres would be terribly cut short and dull.

[Sandra]

@ Lea. Nobody said you read "Nothing but fluff". But sad to say Twilight IS fluff! But hey if you like it, so what??? I'm a big Stephen King fan but some would argue his books are formulaic. But I don't care, I like him. I read him.

My sister is a HUGE Twilight fan...read all the books multiple times, seen all the movies multiple times, is a member of forums etc... She loves the whole concept and I think it's silly. End of story.

IMO there are literally thousands of books out there more worthy of MY time. You like Twilight? Go for it...But let me make one book recommendation if you like romance stories...Gone With the Wind.

Happy Reading!