Why do you think people hate twilight so much? Showing 801-850 of 1,754

[Mary]

Gwynneth wrote: "Sarah wrote: "The biggest problem with Twilight is the weakness of Bella's character. She lacks self-reliance, she's dishonest, and she's a bad daughter. She puts her own desires and drives above t..."

I think that you guys are right but Bella is suppose to be that way.She is a teenage girl who is in love and will do anything for that love.I think that happens alot in real life .We tend to do alot of stupid things for love when we are young.

[Mary]

How can you not like Twlight .I think that we are all a little like Belly and Edward at some point in our lives.I have loved that deeply where I would give up everything to be with the one I loved.
I think the reason why some people don't like this story is because they never loved when they wre young.

[[deleted user]]

Lauryn wrote: "i think some people are just jealous of what Edward and Bells have!"

Sorry but when I kiss a boy I'd rather not have him getting off on my blood and not my kisses.

[[deleted user]]

Also I think the story itself is not very mature or realistic and there are holes in the plot(as I see it) and there is not much consequence. It is weak overall. Plus I hate Bella.

[Jessica]

Because it's popular. Then again, that is why some people like it. I thought the story was okay, it's not like the Twilight series is a beautiful piece of literature, but it was a fun quick read. What ruined the series for me was the last book. I just hated the way the story turned out. It was like it ruined the whole thing..

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Jessica wrote: "Because it's popular. Then again, that is why some people like it. I thought the story was okay, it's not like the Twilight series is a beautiful piece of literature, but it was a fun quick read. W..."
Yea I read all of them and enjoyed it but I hated the last book. Was it just me or was the entire plot based on sex??

[Janese]

For me, the problem with the last book was the complete lack of any kind of battle with the Volturi, and the fact that EVERYTHING was tied up in nice pretty bows for Bella: she had Edward, got to be the only vampire in the world with a biological child (who will live forever), still close with Jacob (who will also live forever), no more feud between the vampires & wolves, still have relationship with her dad who just conveniently had no desire to know the truth (how corny was that part, he's a cop for goodness' sake, they ALWAYS want to know everything, especially about their own kids), all the Cullens & their supporters survived (killing off Irina was a cop-out to avoid having to kill off a major character). I mean, come on! I like a happy ending, but this was ridiculous.

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Sarah wrote: "The biggest problem with Twilight is the weakness of Bella's character. She lacks self-reliance, she's dishonest, and she's a bad daughter. She puts her own desires and drives above the needs of th..."

yeah I totally agree with u-bella is a selfish bitch

[Gerd]

Heidi wrote: "People want to humanize it (because we ARE human) and make them to be child pedophiles or child groomers."

Actually, it's done in the book, too.
Jacob believes himself a normal human until he changes, so Stephenie's weres do use human standards to measure their behaviour themselves.


Heidi wrote: "My favorite gripe I see a lot that Bella is a weak winey character. When in fact, she never wines ..."

I'm not sure what else curling up and wanting to die could count as, just as one example.

[Rula]

because some people (a) don't think vampires are cool; and (b) people don't have imagination these days.

[X]

Um, imagination? It's a 1980's style crappy romance with flat, boring characters, written poorly, that somehow ended up being marketed as regular fiction instead of having a pepto pink cover like it should have.

There are zillions of bad books just like this one, just shop the bodice ripper section of your local used book store for more flat, uninspired crap.

[Lia]

because it is unrelistic with unbelivable drama taylor taking off his shirt in half of the movie is completly unnecessary . and they skip some of the important parts from the book the book was way better then the movie

[Heidi]

Gerd wrote: "Heidi wrote: "People want to humanize it (because we ARE human) and make them to be child pedophiles or child groomers."

Actually, it's done in the book, too.
Jacob believes himself a normal human..."

If you can turn into an animal and consider yourself human good for you! I still would think of you as supernatural. If vampires thought of themselves the same way, I would still see them of supernatural. Now the Hulk or Spiderman since they were in fact born human and things happened to them (gamma radiation or radioactive spider) to make them change I would consider that super human. If your born and change into an animal or are changed due to a bite that alters your diet, appearance, demeanor and strength - I consider it supernatural. You have every right to disagree.

Gerd wrote: "I'm not sure what else curling up and wanting to die could count as,just as one example. "

If you take the dictionary meaning of whine - that description you just gave doesn't apply. If someone curls into a ball how is that whining? Or wanting to die (even though she never once in the books wants to die) - how is wanting to die whining? Both of them put together still doesn't classify someone as whining. I would say acting defeated - that may apply to crawling up into a ball. Wanting to die could also be descriped as being suicidal. Now I'm willing to admit she became an adrenaline junkie. And some people think adrenaline junkies are suicidal. I don't think people who parachute are suicidal, but some people would disagree.

[Morgana_lefay]

Heidi wrote: "Gerd wrote: "Heidi wrote: "People want to humanize it (because we ARE human) and make them to be child pedophiles or child groomers."

Actually, it's done in the book, too.
Jacob believes himself a..."

Well usually ppl who parachute usually use precautions so there is as little risk as possible, ppl riding motorbikes over 200km/h without any proper gear and with total disregard about other ppls safety, well plain stupid, as is jumping off the cliff without anyone there, if you havent done it ever before, only to hear the voice of the one you love, i dont think she was suicidal, she just wanted to do anything that would enable he to hear edwards voice without any thought to what could happen - so she could be compared to adrenaline junkies except she was edward junkie :) but well... all junkies are usually stupid because the addiction takes over (I'm starting to think I'm actually addicted to reading because I spend so much time reading when I really should be doing other things but I just cant help myself - which i think most addicts would say - I just need it) :)

[Kyle]

I felt that Bella and Edward's relationship was based of of purely physical desires. (Edward liked her scent and Bella thought he was handsome). I understand that many relationships start this way, but they shouldn't STAY that way. Their relationship never grows deeper or has any emotional bonds. Even their child din't seem like a bond for them. It was disappointing and a step back for feminism and real romance novels.

[Alex]

People hate Twilight because it was the next big Y.A. publication after Harry Potter. And Twilight is no Harry Potter. I enjoy both series so it's w/e

[Morgan]

Plain and simple: the women have no real depth and the men run their lives. Bella makes all her decisions based on edward, and edward tries to force her to stop talking to her friends. It's a terrible example to be setting for the young people reading the books.

Not to mention the bad, bad, BAD writing.

[Mickey]

Morgan wrote: "Plain and simple: the women have no real depth and the men run their lives."

I disagree that the women have no depth. I actually think the problem people are having is that the women in Twilight actually have depth. Contrast it with something like the Harry Potter series, where the women/girls were all cookie cutter typical girl characters.

I also don't understand this insistence that the men run the women's lives. Who ran Bella's life, if not her? Edward? Edward would've made different choices than the ones Bella made. Who controlled Alice or Rosalie?

Why do these same misconceptions keep being recycled? It's like people stopped looking at the books a while ago and just repeated what everyone else said.

[Morgan]

Mickey wrote: "Morgan wrote: "Plain and simple: the women have no real depth and the men run their lives."

I disagree that the women have no depth. I actually think the problem people are having is that the wome..."

...pardon me? the only woman in the twilight series with any kind of depth is rosalie, and even that took some unearthing. meanwhile, hermione and ginny are doing whatever they can to stop voldemort alongside (or very far away from) harry.

i have actually read the books, and these are things i pulled from it. edward TOLD BELLA she wasn't allowed to see jacob and would get irrationally angry when he found out she did. bella went along with it because she was afraid of edward leaving her. that's pretty much an abusive relationship. renee leaves bella with her father to run off with phil. bella cooks for charlie who is such a "man" he can't cook for himself.

basically, this book consistently plays up to gender stereotypes and it's a terrible example to be setting for young people.

i'm not even joking when i say that i'm offended you think ginny weasley is a typical girl character.

[Gerd]

Heidi wrote: "I still would think of you as supernatural..."

No disagreement there.
My point is that Jacob got raised to see himself as a human, and then falls in love, erm imprints, with a baby?
I'm sorry. To me that sounds not supernatural, only unnatural.


Heidi wrote: "If you take the dictionary meaning of whine - that description you just gave doesn't apply. If someone curls into a ball how is that whining?"

To me curling up is the bodily equivalent of:
"The world is so mean to me, make it go away, waah." :D

[Rula]

X wrote: "Um, imagination? It's a 1980's style crappy romance with flat, boring characters, written poorly, that somehow ended up being marketed as regular fiction instead of having a pepto pink cover like ..."

the characters are not boring, and they are not being written poorly. Stephanie Meyer has created a wonderful series of books which have been turned into bestseller films but i am a keen book lover

[Mickey]

@Morgan,

I think you and I must have different ideas of what depth is. The women in Twilight are much more varied. They have struggles and motivations that the women in Harry Potter don't have. Twilight women are not just used as big helpers, but people in their own right- good, bad, and ugly. Oddly enough, the depth of the women seems to be part of the problem, because I think people are more used to a certain type of standard woman as opposed to having characters with depth who happen to be women.

Your recollection of the situation with Edward not wanting Bella to see Jacob is different from mine. I thought that Bella and Jacob continued their friendship after New Moon, did they not? I don't recall Bella meekly accepting Edward's wishes (really, how many times did she do this in the series? I don't remember one time.). Edward was usually the one who bent, not Bella. Bella's mother did not leave Bella, either. In the first pages, Bella states that it was her decision to live with her dad. (BTW, many women (and men, actually) move because of their significant other for their jobs or for their families, I think if you think it's a problem to show something that happens regularly in normal, everyday life, there's a problem with your expectations or ideas of what is normal.) As for the cooking, I cooked for my father when I lived with him when I was 16. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Ultimately, I think the problem with your approach to the books is that you are looking at certain key areas to see if these women are "sending the right messages", as opposed to being people. When readers do this sort of thing, then their focus will be on whether the characters fit an approved template. This approach doesn't lead to characters with depth. Not to mention the inaccuracies that you have that we've talked about.

I don't think young girls should be told that cooking is a terrible thing for women to do and to move for your spouse's job is an awful, weak thing.

I don't agree that Ginny is a good character. I'm not sure why you would be offended by that opinion. That's a little strange.

[Janese]

Kyle wrote: "I felt that Bella and Edward's relationship was based of of purely physical desires. (Edward liked her scent and Bella thought he was handsome). I understand that many relationships start this way,..."

Actually, the book does have Bella refer to Edward's kindness, intelligence, selflessness (when it comes to his family), and of course his devotion to her would be appealing to her. She also admires the efforts of the whole Cullen clan to rose above what they are in order not to harm people. In the unpublished Midnight Sun, we learn that Edward was drawn to Bella because of the same things. It goes in depth explaining how he views her words & actions, and concludes that she is a really good person, which he had come to believe no longer existed. So I have to say there's more to it than physical attraction.

[Janese]

Mickey wrote: "Morgan wrote: "Plain and simple: the women have no real depth and the men run their lives."

I disagree that the women have no depth. I actually think the problem people are having is that the wome..."

Mickey, I'm curious as to why you say the H.P. females were typical and cookie-cutter. I think it's moreso that they were never really the author's focus. But based on what we did see of them, I'd say they were some really strong, brave, intelligent women who were fiercely devoted to the cause they believed in, and the people they loved.
I'm genuinely interested in what makes you say that, would you mind explaining what you meant?

[Jill]

I think people hate the books for all the hype they've gotten, which I don't really understand. I know people who haven't even read the books and hate them simply for this reason. I think its fine not to like something but don't make a big deal about it if other people do like it. Everyone has their own opinions and likes. I personally love this series.

[Gabriella]

I believe it is that the series is extremely popular. People aren't apart of it and don't really like what it is about, so they hate on it. The opinions are so extreme. It's either you love it, or you really hate it.

[Missyb]

the twinkle/sparkle, then shoved down your throat as a bad ass vampire, while sparkling.

I've read all 4 book, and Mid. Sun. I enjoyed the books, they are not the best written, the story is okay, the teen love is typical & nothing new, the books had way to much filler in them, the characters were pretty good for the most part (some were annoying/boring - Bella). Unfortunately many poeple are going by the movies for their opinion. That could turn some away since it was marketed down your throat. I did think Bella was a whiny character with a poor me attitude. Most of the others were okay.

[Heidi]

Gerd wrote: "Heidi wrote: "I still would think of you as supernatural..."

No disagreement there.
My point is that Jacob got raised to see himself as a human, and then falls in love, erm imprints, with a baby?..."

So apparently when I crawl up into a ball when I'm cold I'm saying waahhhh. Interesting.

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When I first read this book I was one of those crazy obsessed teenie-boppers. But luckily I came to my senses. I still love the books, but there are plenty of things I don't like. Bella is just too clumsy and I hate how she always falls into dangerous situations. And at first I admired Edward's protectiveness of Bella, but then it just became really annoying. Sure, I would love to have a guy be really protective of me, but a girl also needs some space. And the last thing that I didn't get is why the Cullens keep repeating high school. It's not like they go to socialize. If they go just for education why don't they go to college? They are immortal, they can do so many things. I just don't get it.
The one thing that really draws me to this book is just the intense love they feel for each other...and Edward's hottness.

[Elizabeth]

you go girl ! put 'em strait!
totally agree with you !

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haha this is hilarious

[Elizabeth]

im sorry but i dont get why people hate them i love them. but then its your own persnal opinion but what really anoys me is when people dont give things a chance. most of the haters havnt even read the books and if you have read them then fair enough but there are just somepeople who are trying to go with a crowd- a twilight hating crowd because its were their friends are etc. but if you havnt read them just give them a chance you might be surprised and its not going to harm anyone to do so then and only then can you make your judgment because it will be fair and the same goes for other books and even things that aren't books

dont mock it till you've tried it !

[Elizabeth]

look i know you hate them but hates a strong word, haters leave off the lovers and lovers leave off the haters. because no matter what there will always be lovers and haters, take the Holocaust especially the camps, at the time the nazis loved it and jews hated it so its all about what side of the fence your on .

[B.L.]

Elizabeth wrote: "look i know you hate them but hates a strong word, haters leave off the lovers and lovers leave off the haters. because no matter what there will always be lovers and haters, take the Holocaust esp..."

Your comparing the Twilight series to the fucking Holocaust, mate thats a bit of a stretch, i mean i dont hate the Twilight series it's just the characters annoy me and the plot is kind of stupid, and i dont like the fact that Bella and Edwards relationship is decribed as an epic romance, it isn't it is more like a 12 year olds idea of one, but im not saying i hate it, there are plenty more important things to hate, as you rightly pointed out. I also just think there are books out there that are SO much better, and they dont get even half the praise that twilight gets, thats all, but everyone has their own opinion and thats fair xxx

[((Savanha))]

i dont hate twilight but i didnt like it either. i think its WAY to over played and over done. the books and movies were enough, but people make poster shirts and people give it too much attention. watch the movies read the books and move on people. plus to story was unrealistic but imma save that for another time

[Janese]

Elizabeth wrote: "look i know you hate them but hates a strong word, haters leave off the lovers and lovers leave off the haters. because no matter what there will always be lovers and haters, take the Holocaust esp..."

Ummm... really? This is the example you come up with? There are positives & negatives to be argued about the book(s), the same cannot be said about the Holocaust.

[[deleted user]]

any movie or book they make a spoof out of is hated it is a universap rule

[[deleted user]]

i can say i agree but i can say i dont

[Chelsey]

I enjoyed the story, but Bella being so.. weak really bothered me. Her boyfriend left her, and she still took him back. I don't care what the reason was he left. Grow a pair and move on! Bella's character tells young girls that it's ok to live your entire life dedicated to catching a boy, no matter how he treats you. Maybe they should remake the movie with Rihanna as Bella.. That would more fitting, and probably better acting as well.

[Janese]

Chelsey wrote: "I enjoyed the story, but Bella being so.. weak really bothered me. Her boyfriend left her, and she still took him back. I don't care what the reason was he left. Grow a pair and move on! Bella's ch..."

Come on, a lot of people have gotten back with an ex. Sometimes it's weakness (if that ex treated you badly, cheated, or left you for someone else, etc), but sometimes you allow a person to admit that they were wrong & apologize to you, & you forgive. That isn't weakness. There are many things in this book that one could argue portrays Bella as weak, but taking back the man she loved (who also truly loved her) isn't one of them.

[Mickey]

Janese wrote: "Mickey, I'm curious as to why you say the H.P. females were typical and cookie-cutter. I think it's moreso that they were never really the author's focus. But based on what we did see of them, I'd say they were some really strong, brave, intelligent women who were fiercely devoted to the cause they believed in, and the people they loved.
I'm genuinely interested in what makes you say that, would you mind explaining what you meant?"

I'm not saying that the Harry Potter women don't have admirable qualities. My problem is that these qualities are essentially all that they have. Rowling did a great job with her male characters. They have both shade and light in their personalities. It's not that the females aren't the focus. Sirius wasn't a focus and neither was James. They are both much rounder characters than Hermione, despite having much less page time. Except for slight variations, Hermione, Ginny, and Lily are basically the same person. They are the right kind of females with the right characteristics, but they are not good characters at all.

Twilight's "problem" with its portrayal of women has to do with the fact that its female characters do not fit the template. They are more real and far more nuanced than women characters are supposed to be. We've become so used to women being portrayed one way.

It's a bit like the difference between how women are portrayed in magazines as opposed to real life. Women in magazines are portrayed as uniformly beautiful, competent, and strong. It's a fantasy that's comforting, but it's not really an accurate picture of our lives. Books have started performing the same function as those magazines. We have role models instead of real women with problems and challenges.

[Mallory]

Well... its been a few years since i have read the saga ,but i remember loving it. Now that has changed. I still go to see the movies because i have read books and i always watch the movie if there is one on the book , but i think that is reason why most people "hate" Twilight even though most of them have read the whole saga is because of the moives. Well, thats why my friends and i hate it anyway. The moives have ruined the books in a way that sickens me. The movies have turned this book that probably was amazing into a big joke. I have heard so many jokes about the vampires being sparkling fairies. Movies can change fans of a book from someone that loved it at one time to now hating it with a passion that burns like a thousand suns. Now other series are becomng movies which scares me. The series that are becoming movies are The Mortal Instruments and the Fallen series.The Mortal Instruments are one of my favorite series ever and if they ruining it i will blow. I know that if they ruin tmi that it will be Twilight all over again. ._.

[Janese]

Thanks for the explanation, Mickey. After reading what you wrote, I have to agree with you. There wasn't much shading to the main females' personalities. Wow... I hadn't even realized it before. I still love them, though.

[Devin]

Megan (I heart FINNICK) wrote: "Never read them...i have the answer!!!
VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES SOUND STUPID!!!!"

Dude. That is pretty much every book out there now.

[Velvia]

Charity wrote: "I don't hate Twilight per se but I think there are two reasons why people do.

1. It's popular to hate Twilight

2. People get tired of the dramatic fandom associated with Twilight.

I saw the ..."

This is right! People say it is because the characters are shallow, Bella's a bad role model, the writing is bad, the story is uninteresting... I cry B.S. The story is fun, sappy, overdramatic, with themes that are relatable to YA...feelings of isolation, teen angst, coming of age, true love, love at first sight, etc, And for those who think Stephanie Meyer is the first one to write about these things, even to write about them badly (which I don't think she does), they need to buy a clue. Or at least read more. I have read FAR worse books than Twilight. Pick up House of Night. Meyer's work is War and Peace comparatively. Meyer is not the first or last to change vampire mythology, so people need to get over the sparkly vampire sensitivity. As a writer, I passionately defend Meyer. Although with her millions, I think she's doing just fine. Hopefully the haters will be her motivators. You guys want to hate something, rag on that 50 Shades of Gray crap.

[Velvia]

Bogwurst wrote: "I quote Stephen King:

“Harry Potter is all about confronting fears, finding inner strength, and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfri..."

And Carrie was only about if you don't like being picked on at school, murder all your classmates. Stephen King should be ashamed of himself for belittling a new author that way. It was beneath him. Constructive criticism is one thing; he was rude, snarky, and demeaning.

[Missyb]

Janese wrote: "Elizabeth wrote: "look i know you hate them but hates a strong word, haters leave off the lovers and lovers leave off the haters. because no matter what there will always be lovers and haters, take..."

The example used was extremely poor & insensitive, but depending on what side of the fence you're on makes your view, is a very good point.

[Velvia]

Steph wrote: "Morgan wrote: "Mickey wrote: "Morgan wrote: "Plain and simple: the women have no real depth and the men run their lives."

I disagree that the women have no depth. I actually think the problem peop..."

Excellent! This was beautifully explained, Steph!

[Melancholies]

I'm not jealous of what Bella and Edward have.
I don't hate the book.

The first book was good, and I have to admit that it was what got me inspired in the Romantic section.

To me, I didn't think it was over dramatic or annoying and stupid, it was good and I don't give a damn what others think about my opinion of the book.

But that's just me, and everyone has there opinions.

[[deleted user]]

i am alright with twilight
but i like it cause i like romance
but there is too much romance and vampires
which is why it is tooo dramatic

but only my opinion