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[[deleted user]]

XDDD That really bothers me.
Vampires-light...dies

[Pamela]

Even though this a late comment i have alot of my mind. why do people hate Twilight?!!!!!. gosh i give alot of thanks to this book because it waas my first read of vampire books i usto hate reading and now since i discover it i began reading iit :) and i love it!!11 and since then i began reading other vampire books and all supernatural vampire books gosh. people this a 5 Star thats all. Edward Cullen i still heart him :D. this series is better than The house of night!!! welll, no. not really. there about equality but Twilight like more Twilight forr me would be my number 1 and forever thats all i can say. ;) I love Twilight!!! :D

[Ben]

Edward is 100 years old. If he actually looked like he was 100, he would look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rup...

Edward is 100 years old. Yet, he spends his days hanging around a high school. If he didn't look like Edward, he would look like this:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&a...

Edward, who at this point barley knows Bella, sneaks into her room and watches her sleep. I don't care how "romantic" this is supposed to be, if I liked a girl and was standing in her bedroom at 1 o'clock in the morning, she'd be freaked. Even if she had a crush back. An evil thing, watching you sleep. If Edward wasn't Edward, he'd look like this:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?start=...

You see where I'm going with this?
The author paints the picture that because Edward happens to look like Robert Patterson ie is a goodlooking guy, nothing else matters. The books are based on a shallow fantasy of a 30 odd year old woman pretending, Carley Rae style, to be a 12 year old girl.
And 12 year old girls are reading this, and lapping it up. Meanwhile, frustrated internet addicts are reading it, seeing just how messed up Edward actually is, and wondering why the Forever Alone meme represents their life still when they don't do that.
Personally, not all of Twilight is bad. Sparkle sparkle aside, I like the Vampires, and the Volturi are a pretty impressive creation. This could have been a magical world that Meyer created, but instead it reads as a cliched, shallow, unrealistic, infuriating love story (later triangle) between uber creep Eddy and uber annoying Bella.
But what's worse are the films. Breaking Dawn should be shown to prisoners as a form of torture. It was that bad. Like proper bad. Not even, Tommy Wisseau so shockingly bad it's funny bad. Just bad.

[Vanessa]

Mereworth wrote: "I have read all four books, and I admit, I slightly enjoyed reading them, while at the same time harbouring a growing distaste for the contents and the characters, etc, etc. I think people who HAVE..."

I like the idea of the book but it is so poorly written. I kept on reading hoping it'll get better but it didn't. With this book you're better off watching the movie and fanfictions.

The main reason that people hate the book is because

1.) The relationship between Edward/Bella has all the signs of domestic violence and it being rated YA upsets many people.

2.) Bella is a mary-sue. She has no personality, is plain, no major flaws, and a general sour puss yet every guy wants her.

3.) Love is represented as physical attraction with out no real personal growth to likeing a person for who they are.

4.) Since the book is in 1st pov there is a lot of depressing self hating that can annoy a lot of readers.

5.) The book touches on pediophilia. I know a lot of fans may disagree. But in the two book Jacob admits that while there is nothing sexual in Quil/Clair or Jacob/Rennesme now he DOES say that eventually they're relationship with 'grow.' By them admiting that their relation will grow into being 'lovers' when she is ready IS a form of pediophilia by definition since that is what they expect. Also since the wolf will go crazy by not being with the imprint would casuse a guilt complex with the girls. This type of 'love' is extremely disfunctional even though the author trys to romacitize it. The girls are given no real choice.

In general, the reason that there are so many haters is that the books should NOT be rated YA for all the above reasons. I read the book, loved the plot and the idea, not to mention it is wonderful eye candy at some parts, but I hated the writing. Another author such as Anne Rice, Karen Essex, Suzanne Collin, ect would have made the book much more involved and full of depth that the books lack.

[Melonie]

I've read all the books, and I enjoyed them. But the media hype over the movies ruined the series for me. Now it seems to be trendy to hate it, but what do they really hate? The actual books, or the movies?

[[deleted user]]

Ben wrote: "Edward is 100 years old. If he actually looked like he was 100, he would look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rup...

Edward is 100 years old. Yet, he spen..."

lol. too true

[Morgana_lefay]

April wrote: "Morgana_lefay wrote: "April wrote: "I think for those who have read the book and are into vampire stuff, it's kind of hard to like the book when the vampires sparkle in the sun instead of die. Step..."

I ment it for all the ppl who previously said thier main problem is that the vampires are not the undead (villians) who are destroyed by sun, your comment was just the last one where I've seen it mentioned :)

[Heidi]

Vanessa wrote: "By them admiting that their relation will grow into being 'lovers' when she is ready IS a form of pediophilia by definition since that is what they expect. "

Actually -By definition:
pe·do·phil·i·a   /ˌpidəˈfɪliə/ Show Spelled[pee-duh-fil-ee-uh] Show IPA
noun Psychiatry .
sexual desire in an adult for a child.

With your broad definition, that would mean anyone who had a crush on someone and expected it to go further then the crush is a pedophile (so a 18 year old liking a 16 year old is a pedophile). If she is ready when shes 13 then yes, you are correct. If she is ready when shes 18 or older then no. Not to mention pedophiles like CHILDREN. If they desire them as sexual objects as a childen, then I would be inclined to agree with you. Just because they expect something to happen down the road doesn't make them pedophiles. Now that doesn't mean that a 18 year old can't be a pedophile. Just not in this instance of a hypothetical.

[Gerd]

Your example doesn't hold up because a sixteen y's old isn't a child anymore, but the technical term searched for is child grooming, which is paedophilia when the intent is to have sexual intercourse.

[Heidi]

April wrote: "I think for those who have read the book and are into vampire stuff, it's kind of hard to like the book when the vampires sparkle in the sun instead of die. "
Morgana_lefay wrote:"actually lots of authors changed vampires from the undead who are destroyed by sun (and they are still poular)"

Wow, you know thanks for bringing that up Morgan. Jim Butcher wrote three (4) different types of vampire courts. Red, Black and White vampires (and Jade but he hasnt gone into that yet). Red are suppose to be bat like vampires who have a flesh mask to make themsleves look like sexy humans. They also have saliva that is like a drug that paralizes the victim and the person enters into a state of euphoria. They are strong, fast and hard to hurt in a fight unless you cut open thier bellys. And they turn into a bat once they kill thier first person. There is also a resitance of Red vampires who havent fully changed who try to kill them all. Black vampires are zombie like vampires. They smell like rotting flesh. And are the stereo typical Bram Stoker vampire. They are also the strongest out of all of them. White court vampires are pretty much succubi. They are the most human, can walk in day light. Can eat regular food. They feed off of the life force of others in high levels of emotional activity. So they either like to inflict pain on thier victim or pleasure. They can heal and are strong when they use thier powers, they even glow and radiate cold and thier blood is pink. They are the only vampires who are born, not created or turned. And thier kryptonite is someone who is in love they can not touch or they burn and they are the only vampires that can turn fully human.

[Heidi]

Gerd wrote: "Your example doesn't hold up because a sixteen y's old isn't a child anymore, but the technical term searched for is child grooming, which is paedophilia when the intent is to have sexual intercourse."

And paedophilia is the condition of being sexually attracted to children. It doesnt say they are attracted to the children in a sexual way in the books.

[Gerd]

Heidi wrote: "And paedophilia is the condition of being sexually attracted to children. It doesnt say they are attracted to the children in a sexual way in the books."

It may not say so, but seriously, if we take Jacob who had no problem with trying to force Bella because he thought he imprinted on her - do you really think he doesn't want sex from Renesmee, who he apparently really imprinted on? ;)

The whole point of the imprinting business is that she's "destined" to be his bride - it doesn't sound to me as if they would care much if their chosen sees it the same way.

[Ann]

They're badly written and have very little by way of actual plot. Bella is self-absorbed and there is no apparent reason why everyone LOVES her; I cannot stand her, personally. Edward is creepy--watching her sleep? Really? In which world is that romantic?

[Rose]

Felicia wrote: "I don't think people are jealous of what Edward and Bella have, because everyone knows that it's unrealistic(and stupid).
Then again, I don't think that's the reason people hate the book. I think i..."
I think this is the reason, I loved the books, they're what got me into reading, but nowadays. I feel kind of ashamed for loving them.

[April]

Rose wrote: "Felicia wrote: "I don't think people are jealous of what Edward and Bella have, because everyone knows that it's unrealistic(and stupid).
Then again, I don't think that's the reason people hate the..."

I personally am not to into the romance between them, but don't be ashamed of what you like. It helps make you YOU!

[Heidi]

Gerd wrote: "Heidi wrote: "And paedophilia is the condition of being sexually attracted to children. It doesnt say they are attracted to the children in a sexual way in the books."

It may not say so, but serio..."

You have a father who can read your mind and beat the snot out of you. When you want to get married to someone, is the only thought that you have is having sex with them? Or is it, this person is amazing and I want to spend the rest of my life with this person?

[Morgana_lefay]

I dont know how Renesmee could want Jacob, he's a guy who was in love with her mother and primarily wants her because 'fate' decided they should be together, dont know if I could be happy knowing that

[Heidi]

Morgana_lefay wrote: "I dont know how Renesmee could want Jacob, he's a guy who was in love with her mother and primarily wants her because 'fate' decided they should be together, dont know if I could be happy knowing that"

Well you could ask Woody Allens daughter. I mean wife. I mean daughter. Cough cough. Such things have happened before.

[Kirby]

Heidi wrote: "Well you could ask Woody Allens daughter. I mean wife. I mean daughter. Cough cough. Such things have happened before. "

ha ha! good one! :D

[April]

Heidi wrote: "Morgana_lefay wrote: "I dont know how Renesmee could want Jacob, he's a guy who was in love with her mother and primarily wants her because 'fate' decided they should be together, dont know if I co..."

Haha nice Heidi!

[B.L.]

This is just me but the reason i don't personally like Twilight is because:

1.Bella got on my nerves, she is so ungrateful and whiny, basically she is everything i hate in a heroine.

2.Edward had no real personality, plus whoever told Meyer that NOT wanting to have sex is an attractive trait in a boyfriend obviously was either 12 or doesn't know anything about relationships. I have never met a person who would say that they wish there boyfriend didn't want to have sex with them, i mean they dont want their boyfriends to force it on them that is unattractive but i know i definately would not find it attractive if i was with someone who said they didnt want to have sex with me, if anything it would make me feel a little insecure, but thats just my opinion.

3.The last book, i dont care what anybody says, it was total fan fiction crap, loads of stuff happened that didnt really NEED to happen. In fact if this book were a person id say they needed to be in some kind of psyche ward.

4.Dont even get me started on the Jacob thing, it's not that it creeped me out THAT much, it's just that it was so... conveniant, radiculously so, and it just annoyed me.

5.As a whole the series just disapointed me, i was told by many of my friends that it was a brilliant series, so i suppose i built it up too much, the films did NOT help, if anything they just made me dislike the story even more.

6.One last thing was them having a baby, i mean i knew they were going to do it but come ON it was just so..so... i dont even know how to describe how obvious and annoying THAT plot device was.

So all in all i just didnt like the books, they arent as terrible as some make them out to be, they just weren't as good as i had hoped, and i think there are a lot of books that deserve to be recognised as brilliant more than this series does.

Also to the person who said haters are jelous of what Bella and Edward 'have', um may i say...no...just, NO! The only thing they 'have' is a joint lack of personality and emo-nous (not a word but im using it anyway;) Anybody who has bee in a real relationship knows what a load of bull that is, love is about caring for another peron more than you care about yourself, not running around like pale faced twits xxx

[Heidi]

BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Anybody who has bee in a real relationship knows what a load of bull that is, love is about caring for another peron more than you care about yourself, not running around like pale faced twits xxx

Have you turned on your TV lately? Theres a show called Jerry Springer or Cheaters or Maurey; There are people running around like pale faced twits all the time.

[Vanessa]

Gerd wrote: "Heidi wrote: "And paedophilia is the condition of being sexually attracted to children. It doesnt say they are attracted to the children in a sexual way in the books."

It may not say so, but serio..."

Heidi wrote: "Vanessa wrote: "By them admiting that their relation will grow into being 'lovers' when she is ready IS a form of pediophilia by definition since that is what they expect. "

Actually -By definitio..."


So true because in Breaking Dawn he does say that when Nessie is 'ready' he will take on the part as a LOVER. In both times that Jacob exaplains imprinting he doesn't say wife or partner. It's always lover or soul mate when he explains the eventual ending path of the imprint. PLUS Jacob actually gives her a tribal braclet that has the same meaning as a promise ring. And this was when she only looked about 7 years old. (This was during christmas) And to make it look worse she will look about 18 when she is only 7 years old (it might be 8, I can't remember exactly).

You were also right in in another post. 'Child grooming' would is a better term than I used to describe what was happening. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees that.

I really hope her publisher will either not encourage Meyer to publish a continuation or at least not label it as a YA.

[Cerri]

Vanessa wrote: "i think i liked the first book. i cant remember. i remember watching the movie with my college friends, and after that i lost it. i dont like Kristen's acting. [this is just me ok, Twilight fans do..."

That's exactly how I felt. The first one got me hooked so I continued to read the series with some annoyance but not too much until the ending, which turned me off to the whole series completely. Then I saw the movie and everything about that book was exposed in a different light, Bella became too needy, everything I hate in a heroine, and the vampires glittered, and the chemistry between the two MAIN characters was atrocious.
Also the fact that the premier of twilight was the reason that one of the Harry Potter movie premiers got pushed back just made me feel like I had to choose sides. Magic trumps vampire bullshit 100% of the time.

[B.L.]

Heidi wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Anybody who has bee in a real relationship knows what a load of bull that is, love is about caring for another peron more than you care about yourself, not running around like..."

Yeah, but most of them arent claiming to be the best love story of all time....bleegh, that is all ;) xxx

[Jordan]

Well I definently don't think that they are jealous about what Edward and Bella have. I just think it's because it's just not everyone's forte. Some people think it's over-dramatic. I love this book and would never think that, but that's just my theory.

[Ann]

If people were jealous of Edward and Bella's dysfunctional relationship (which is a fallacious and silly assumption at its root), Shakespeare and Jane Austen would be disliked for the beautiful, intense romances they wrote.

[Anya_Varian]

I have read the first book only and it was more than enough for me to dislike it. I have also seen the first movie. I didn't like it because it ruins vampires as mystic nocturnal beings and it turns them into teenagers.
The whole idea of a vampire not drinking human blood, walking in the daylight, going to school etc. seems stupid (to me). It lacks this solemn and gloomy atmosphere of novels like Dracula and Carmilla where vampires are in my opinion rather charismatic, mysterious and of course dangerous.
I also hated Bella for being so dull, ordinary, insecure.
Conversations were also too dramatic.

[Gerd]

Heidi wrote: "When you want to get married to someone, is the only thought that you have is having sex with them? Or is it, this person is amazing and I want to spend the rest of my life with this person?"

Arranged Marriage or marriage to underaged girls = Power, wealth, prestige, and in the last case most of all sex & control - history tells us that.


Heidi wrote: "Well you could ask Woody Allens daughter. I mean wife. I mean daughter. Cough cough. Such things have happened before...."

Exactly, these things happen, and I sure don't believe out of love. :/



Vanessa wrote: "I really hope her publisher will either not encourage Meyer to publish a continuation or at least not label it as a YA."

That's my main gripe with it, it's too closely fashioned after adult (paranormal) romance novels - I always wondered a bit how this managed to get picked up by a YA publisher without a few alterations.

[Mickey]

Ann wrote: "If people were jealous of Edward and Bella's dysfunctional relationship (which is a fallacious and silly assumption at its root), Shakespeare and Jane Austen would be disliked for the beautiful, intense romances they wrote."

I actually think that Austen is routinely discounted because of her focus on romance and Shakespeare's romances (particularly Romeo and Juliet) are now thought to be not romances at all.

It's just a sign of 'the spirit of the times'. Each age champions a point on the line between being a part of a larger unit (like a couple) and being an individual. At the moment, romance is thought of as being restricting and detrimental to the individual. (I can't think of one intense, beautiful modern romance. Can you?)

Perhaps the pendulum will soon swing the other way and romance will make a comeback, but I think the discounting of Twilight is part of a much larger trend in our culture.

[Jordan]

Anya_Varian wrote: "I have read the first book only and it was more than enough for me to dislike it. I have also seen the first movie. I didn't like it because it ruins vampires as mystic nocturnal beings and it tur..."

that's just it! not everyone likes it cuz they think it's ruining the vampire genre. i don't believe so i love this series!

[[deleted user]]

I'm glad someone does in the midst of all this hate.

[Mitra]

I think people have the right to hate it. There are people I'm sure who find it incredibly unrealistic, and cheesy. I get those view-points, but I don't see the point in trying to force others to share the same belief. My interest in the book was for pure fun. I don't intend to ever seek, or have an Edward Cullen, nor do I want one. It was just a fun read. However, some people do take it too seriously, and I assume that also takes part in why some people hate on Twilight so much - the obsessed fans. There are some overly obsessed fans in that fandom, more noticeably so, as with any large fandom, so it's obvious as to why they would ge that hated on, and then in turn that hate translates into hate for the book, as well as the fans who like/love it.

I being a fan of the book, however, did NOT like the movie Twilight at all. Awful, awful. I recently watched some scenes of New Moon, and I had watched some scenes of Eclipse...and they were okay. Way better than Twilight, that's for sure. That movie was a mess IMO. I couldn't get through Breaking Dawn cause it was kind of stupid to me at the time, and while I still do kind of find it stupid, it's not as stupid to me as it was before. Maybe it's the way I saw it come alive in some scenes I watched, I don't know. All in all, it's a fun read and that's all it should be. No one should actually take it seriously, it's fiction after all!

[Jenna]

i personally loved it, when i read it i was in a horrible relationship with my ex fiance and reading that (i know its fiction) but i dunno it gave me a pang of hope lol i know that sounds gay but some things done it makes woman actually swoon to some of the sweet things said and done. with that being said i know romance novels ruins relationships because it leaves unrealistic expectations for woman and i think thats why guys hate it and i have no idea why woman do

[Nada]

I read the Twilight series before it became this huge phenomenon, and I enjoyed reading most parts of the story. The problem was the movie. Those of us who enjoy watching well made movies with coherent scripts were disappointed with the movie. I don't think most people hate Twilight because its "fashionable." The movies were just really terrible. It was mind boggling to see moms and teenage girls acting overly obsessed with a movie that was just not that good. Anyway, that's what I think.

[[deleted user]]

because people dont like the whole sparkling vampire thing i love the book but i get where they're coming from

[CollinB]

two words: bad writing

[[deleted user]]

Collin wrote: "two words: bad writing"

oh come off it they arent that bad

[Jenna]

i agree i read it before all the big hype and my brother and sister in law made fun of me for it until it got popular and they read it my ex hated it said the movies were gay til i got him to read the saga then he liked it

[Nate]

It's like eating at McDonalds. It looks like real food and some people love it. That does not make it real food.

[William]

My biggest problem with the series (and yes I've read the whole thing) is that, as a series with teenage girls as its target demographic, it is ultimately very degrading to women. Bella is nothing but a blank slate, a foil for the man in her life, be it Edward of Jacob. She is nothing without a man.

I for one fully support getting young people to read more often, but not at the expense of quality values and life lessons. I don't want young women reading this series and getting the impression that the only way to live your life is to find a man to tend to their every need and pump out a child as soon as possible.

Other young adult series (Narnia, Harry Potter, Hunger Games) leave the reader with a positive sense of self; of empowerment and individuality. These are the books young people should be reading. Edward and Bella are not a text-book example of romance, it is an emotionally abusive relationship between an older, possessive, borderline stalker and a vapid, insecure, and empty husk of an individual. Young girls should not want to grow up to be Bella Swan; instead, be Hermione, be Katniss, be Kira, be Susan, be more than just an object for a man to control.

As an adult male with a younger female sibling I see little but social and cultural damage stemming from Meyer's work and wonder how a woman could possibly write the most gender demeaning literary work of last decade.

[Christine]

I personally don't like the books very much, but I don't hate it. I think that people should just cool it with the Twilight hate, 'cause there are much worse books than that. There will always be people who hate things that are popular, just for the sake that it's popular.
However, I do have to say that I strongly disagree with the people that say it's the best book in the world. I know that not all fans say that, but the occasional fan that I am talking to will say that it's the best book ever, and that does bother me. I find that the plot line lacks a important theme overall, and that things happen a bit too quickly to create a realistic love story. Bella meets Edward for the first time, and almost instantly becomes infatuated with him. And within the 1 or two years that the series spans over, Bella decides to forsake all of her friens and family to live with Edward. Though the idea of love above all else is very romantic, and I do get the appeal of it, I find that this story wouldn't be as special if Edward was a vampire. I mean, Bella's 18, marries straight out of high school, and gets pregent within the first couple weeks of her marriage. If Edward wasn't a vampire, then this would just seem like a typical small town type love story. I just think that Bella should be thinking of her family. Her father and mother clearly care about her, but she decides to stop seeing them for a family she's known for 2 years, tops. Maybe it's my inner Daddy's girl talking, but I think she should have put a little more consideration into how her family is going to cope. From the parent's point of view, this decision is devastating. They will be able to see her for a few years, then she will have to disappear from their life forever. She may be able to get away with looking 18 for awhile, but eventually she'll have to step away. No Christmas vists, no dinners at Dad's house or anything. To have your child just disappear without a trace is probably a horrible feeling.
Another thing that bothers me about the Twilight books is the main character. She is supposed to be mature for her age, however, she seems to make very adolescent choices. For example, when Edward leaves, she tries to kill herself several times. She has known this man for barely a year, and even though they are "in love", this is a highly irrational choice to make. I feel if she was really mature, she would have moped for a long time then try to get over him, not attempt to kill herself and say that there is no one else for her. Bella is also needed to be constantly coddled and taken care of by Edward. She says that she can do things on her own, but then ends up hurting herself or making things worse. I feel that she is more of a child.

[Silvermoss]

Liz wrote: "I hate the books because I view "Bella" as the worst type of character for young, malleable women to be reading. She is the worst role-model for young girls. Any woman who attempts suicide to get ..."

I want to see it!!!

[Janese]

Okay, I will not defend these books because even though I liked them, I agree the writing was mediocre & Bella is not a good role model. As an adult, I just enjoyed them as fluffy entertainment.
HOWEVER, I do want to point out that several people have mentioned Bella attempting suicide. The book makes it clear that she never once intended to end her life when she was behaving recklessly, only trying to get the adrenaline rush that brought on her hallucinations of Edward's voice. That's pretty pathetic in & of itself, but NOT a suicide attempt. I just wanted to make that point in fairness to the author.

[Carly]

William wrote: "My biggest problem with the series (and yes I've read the whole thing) is that, as a series with teenage girls as its target demographic, it is ultimately very degrading to women. Bella is nothing ..."

Wow, you are a truly empowering gentleman. To add to that, you seem to have an amazing taste in literature (I saw some of your list).

[Alli]

I didn't hate the books but when it went to movie it became horrible and overexposed.

[[deleted user]]

Allison wrote: "I didn't hate the books but when it went to movie it became horrible and overexposed."

the books were or the movies

[[deleted user]]

William wrote: "My biggest problem with the series (and yes I've read the whole thing) is that, as a series with teenage girls as its target demographic, it is ultimately very degrading to women. Bella is nothing ..."

wow thats amazing and i agree i dont want to think i can only live my life because of a boy i'veread everybook you mentioned and i've never read something so amazing

[[deleted user]]

Mariah wrote: "William wrote: "My biggest problem with the series (and yes I've read the whole thing) is that, as a series with teenage girls as its target demographic, it is ultimately very degrading to women. B..."

as what u wrote

[Heidi]

Janese wrote: "Okay, I will not defend these books because even though I liked them, I agree the writing was mediocre & Bella is not a good role model. As an adult, I just enjoyed them as fluffy entertainment.
HO..."

Some people choose to see things in worse case scenarios. You can have many people read a sentence and come up with different things. Personally I thought she became an adrenaline junkie - others would say she was trying to kill herself.
Samething with imprinting. I see it as an imaginary mystical creature finding their soul mate - regaurdless of age. People want to humanize it (because we ARE human) and make them to be child pedophiles or child groomers. Or assume that if a mystical creature aka werewolf fell in love with them and imprinted on them, they would have the choice and be impervious to it.

My favorite gripe I see a lot that Bella is a weak winey character. When in fact, she never wines and she's weak when compared to not being able to fend off supernatural creatures. Some how she should be Buffy.