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message 1: by Dlmrose (last edited Nov 16, 2011 06:45PM) (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
The Winter Challenge 2011 will begin on December 1, 2011 and will end at midnight (EST) on February 29, 2012.

If you have a general question about the Fall 2011 Challenge, please ask here.

The Seasonal Reading Challenge Overview may answer some questions about the challenge process and where things are located in the group discussions


message 2: by Colleen (new)

Colleen | 39 comments Hi! Will Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food work for both parts of 15.4? It is shelved under "Environmental" and here is the cover:

In Defense of Food An Eater's Manifesto by Michael Pollan

Looks pretty green to me!

Colleen MN


message 3: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 15618 comments Mod
Colleen wrote: "Hi! Will Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food work for both parts of 15.4? It is shelved under "Environmental" and here is the cover:."

Please post task specific questions in the help thread for that task.
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/7...


message 4: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (moragepona) | 124 comments Do books have to be in English, or could I read german books too, as long as they fit the task at hand?


message 5: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Sarah wrote: "Do books have to be in English, or could I read german books too, as long as they fit the task at hand?"

Books in languages other than English may be used. See the rules, Book formats #3 for details


message 6: by Sassafrass (new)

Sassafrass (sass-a-frass) | 896 comments Is Tuck Everlasting considered an early reader book? I wanted to use it for something other than a 5 pt task, so I wanted to be sure.

thanks!


message 7: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Sassafrass wrote: "Is Tuck Everlasting considered an early reader book? I wanted to use it for something other than a 5 pt task, so I wanted to be sure.

thanks!"


It is not a young reader book, it maybe used for any task if fits


message 8: by Sassafrass (new)

Sassafrass (sass-a-frass) | 896 comments Dlmrose wrote: "Sassafrass wrote: "Is Tuck Everlasting considered an early reader book? I wanted to use it for something other than a 5 pt task, so I wanted to be sure.

thanks!"

It is not a young r..."



THANK YOU!


message 9: by Angie (new)

Angie (pinkindle) | 597 comments I plan on reading But I Love Him for 15.1, but I'm not sure if I should claim a GRA ticket for it. The book page shows an author and a pseudonym, and both author pages list the book; one is a GRA and one is not. When searching for the book, the pseudonym shows up as the author, so do I go by that?


message 10: by Kristina Simon (new)

Kristina Simon (kristinasimon) | 10789 comments Mod
Angie wrote: "I plan on reading But I Love Him for 15.1, but I'm not sure if I should claim a GRA ticket for it. The book page shows an author and a pseudonym, and both author pages list the book;..."

When I click on the link that you've provided, both pseudonym Amanda Grace and author Mandy Hubbard show up. Since Mandy Hubbard has the (Goodreads author) notation after her name, you're OK to claim a GRA ticket. If only Amanda Grace (who has no GRA notation behind her name) was listed, you wouldn't be able to claim a ticket. Clear as mud? ;-)


message 11: by Angie (new)

Angie (pinkindle) | 597 comments Kristi (Passion for the Page) wrote: "Angie wrote: "I plan on reading But I Love Him for 15.1, but I'm not sure if I should claim a GRA ticket for it. The book page shows an author and a pseudonym, and both author pages ..."

Yep, perfectly clear! Thanks, Kristi. :)


Jayme(the ghost reader) (jaymeiltheghostreader) | 2965 comments Is there a new task about reading two books by new authors?


message 13: by Katrina (new)

Katrina (katmcv) | 457 comments Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "Is there a new task about reading two books by new authors?"

Task 30.1, on top of whatever you roll, requires you read from a new to you author, and you can either read another book by the same author if you liked them, or read another book by a new to you author.


Jayme(the ghost reader) (jaymeiltheghostreader) | 2965 comments Thanks, I thought it was in this group.


message 15: by Midu (new)

Midu Hadi | 903 comments Whats a Big Book ticket?
And what does difference does it make if the author is a Goodreads author?


message 16: by Katrina (new)

Katrina (katmcv) | 457 comments Anomander wrote: "Whats a Big Book ticket?
And what does difference does it make if the author is a Goodreads author?"


http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/4...

I think this will help


message 17: by Bea (new)

Bea | 3819 comments Anomander, read "Clarification of Goodread Author and Big Book Rules" under Moderator Announcements. It will probably answer your questions in full.


message 18: by Midu (new)

Midu Hadi | 903 comments Thanks guys!


message 19: by Chris (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 905 comments Is it better to submit your tasks individually or save up a bunch and submit in one big post? I was going it individually, but it seemed like everyone else was grouping them. Then I saw a post that asked people not to bunch them all together at the end (gee, think I can understand that one!) So I was just wondering which the mods prefer.


message 20: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Chris wrote: "Is it better to submit your tasks individually or save up a bunch and submit in one big post? ..."

You may do whatever is easier for you. The most important things to remember to include are your Readerboard name, any required elements, and your total. It REALLY helps to provide a link (use the "add book/author" link above the comment box) to the books claimed- we check every book for length, fit, etc. and that makes review much quicker.


message 21: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 15618 comments Mod
Dlmrose wrote: "Chris wrote: "Is it better to submit your tasks individually or save up a bunch and submit in one big post? ..."

You may do whatever is easier for you. The most important things to remember to inc..."


While you can do it however you like, I do find that when I have a list of 8 or 10 tasks in one post, it's not always easy to make sure that one doesn't get skipped. When I have to keep moving away from the post to check on a book, it's easy to miss a task when I get back to a long post.

I imagine each of us has different preferences, but I find the easiest thing for me is to have 3 or 4 tasks in a post - not so much scrolling up and down the spreadsheet, but not so many tasks that I lose track of them.


message 22: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Good point, Sandy! Especially if GR is being balky.

It also really helps to have tasks in task order number. As you can imagine, the spreadsheet is BIG, and recording tasks out of order is frustrating.


message 23: by Chris (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 905 comments Thanks. You guys totally rock! (Yes, I'm the mother of a tween.) I can't even imagine how much work goes into this. I hope you're at least virtually sharing a bottle of your favorite beverage for having completed the Fall challenge.


message 24: by Wendy UK (new)

 Wendy  UK (wendyuk) | 756 comments When you buy a kindle book it is often shown on Amazon (and on Goodreads too) with a coloured cover, usually like the paperback edition. Of course you don't actually get that cover on your kindle - sometimes a greyscale version, or sometimes no picture at all.

So for cover based tasks can we use the Amazon Kindle cover picture and read the kindle version, or do you expect us to get a real book with a real cover to meet the task requirements?


message 25: by Chris (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 905 comments I have read all the book selected for group reads for this challenge. Are re-reads permitted for the 20.10 task? Thanks


message 26: by mstan (new)

mstan | 876 comments Wendy UK wrote: "When you buy a kindle book it is often shown on Amazon (and on Goodreads too) with a coloured cover, usually like the paperback edition. Of course you don't actually get that cover on your kindle -..."

Hi Wendy, I've asked this question before so I'll help with the answer - we can use the kindle cover :)


message 27: by ★Meghan★ (new)

★Meghan★ (starinheaven) | 832 comments Chris wrote: "I have read all the book selected for group reads for this challenge. Are re-reads permitted for the 20.10 task? Thanks"

Re-reads are allowed for any task unless the task specifically states otherwise.


message 28: by Felina (new)

Felina Would it be possible to for the mods to designate themselves mod titles? Sometimes when I ask a question and someone responds I'm not always sure if they have the authority to give me permission on something. I have to go and make sure its the task creator (which I know can't have a title) or a mod.


message 29: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 15618 comments Mod
Felina wrote: "Would it be possible to for the mods to designate themselves mod titles? Sometimes when I ask a question and someone responds I'm not always sure if they have the authority to give me permission on..."

If you look at the home page, you'll see the mods listed. Cynthia hasn't been active for over a year, so the mods are Dlmrose, Kristi (Passion for the Page) and Sandy. Only 3 of us to keep straight!


Jayme(the ghost reader) (jaymeiltheghostreader) | 2965 comments Chris wrote: "Is it better to submit your tasks individually or save up a bunch and submit in one big post? I was going it individually, but it seemed like everyone else was grouping them. Then I saw a post that..."

I find it easier to report a book after I read it and then keep track of how many tasks I have done, how many books I read, Goodreads authors I read, big book tickets I read,task points and grand total. I just add to it every time I add a task.

You can also add like 3-4 tasks at a time. Everyone has their own system


message 31: by Wendy UK (new)

 Wendy  UK (wendyuk) | 756 comments mstan wrote: " Wendy UK wrote: "When you buy a kindle book it is often shown on Amazon (and on Goodreads too) with a coloured cover, usually like the paperback edition. Of course you don't actually get that cov..."


Thanks for your help mstan.


message 32: by Bea (new)

Bea | 3819 comments I have an ARC that I am considering for a task. I have read the rule related to ARC and am aware that I can use the book. However, the rule says I must post a link to the book. I usually choose my book on GR by the ISBN number but the ARC has two ISBNs. One is labelled ARC ISBN and the other is just ISBN.

The regular ISBN brings up a book with the same cover but different pages and listed as a hardback, whereas my copy is paperback. Since my copy is ARC and therefore not readily available to others, I hesitate to make changes or add it as a separate edition. I am not counting pages and neither the book in GR or my copy would make a Big Book, so I can live with incorrect page numbers. I also can live with incorrect format, but do y'all care about this level of accuracy?

The ARC ISBN does not bring up any book. In fact I get an error message.

So would my link be to the inaccurate copy but same ISBN?


message 33: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Bea wrote: "I have an ARC that I am considering for a task. I have read the rule related to ARC and am aware that I can use the book. However, the rule says I must post a link to the book. I usually choose my..."

Please post the edition that gives enough information to review the task/book connection. If there is a better description or any metadata in one of the editions post that one.


message 34: by Bea (new)

Bea | 3819 comments Dlmrose wrote: "Please post the edition that gives enough information to review the task/book connection..."

Haha! That is easy as the task is connected only to the author's name. Thanks!


message 35: by Marina (new)

Marina (marina1709) | 28 comments I'm lost and overwhelmed (newbie) so I'm sorry if I'm clueless, but can I use books I've read so far in *DECEMBER* for any Winter 2011 Tasks, even if I haven't officially entered the challenge before reading them?


message 36: by Katrina (new)

Katrina (katmcv) | 457 comments Marina wrote: "I'm lost and overwhelmed (newbie) so I'm sorry if I'm clueless, but can I use books I've read so far in *DECEMBER* for any Winter 2011 Tasks, even if I haven't officially entered the challenge befo..."

Yes, use any book you read during December so far. That way it makes it fair for new members to join in. :)


message 37: by Aneeqah (new)

Aneeqah | 70 comments Can I use The Trouble with May Amelia for a task other than a 5-point one? I'm not sure whether or not it falls in to YA or not.


message 38: by Katrina (new)

Katrina (katmcv) | 457 comments Aneeqah wrote: "Can I use The Trouble with May Amelia for a task other than a 5-point one? I'm not sure whether or not it falls in to YA or not."

It would fit 20.3 - T T W M A, you can make watt.

It would also fit 25.9, Historical Fiction (Option 6) and maybe YA, since some people have shelved it as that and it seems to be about someone young.


message 39: by Sheila (new)

Sheila (sheilaj) | 2244 comments I have someone in my help thread asking if R.L. Stine will work for my task. It is fine for me as far as series go, but I wasn't sure if the books were age appropriate for the challenge. What do you think? Aren't they more children's books than YA? Should I allow it?


message 40: by Chris (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 905 comments Sheila wrote: "I have someone in my help thread asking if R.L. Stine will work for my task. It is fine for me as far as series go, but I wasn't sure if the books were age appropriate for the chal..."

The Rotten School series is definitely elementary grade level (my son read them in 4th and 5th grade), but some of the others are definitely older - like the "Senior Series." You may have to look at each of his series to try to figure out which would be more age appropriate.


message 41: by ♥Meagan♥ (new)

♥Meagan♥ (fadedrainbows) | 104 comments I'm a little confused about the Young Reader rules.

100 Cupboards Umbrella Summer Are these two books considered Young Reader books? They're designed for 4th to 5th graders, not emerging readers. I consider emerging reader books at the 2nd and 3rd grade level. Does that make sense?


message 42: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7514 comments i'm not a mod, and i'm sure they will clarify, but a good way to look at them is to do like search inside the book on Amazon - the young reader books have the larger font, and the wider margins, with more space between the lines/less lines on a page


message 43: by Connie (last edited Dec 07, 2011 02:51PM) (new)

Connie G (connie_g) | 371 comments I need to check with a mod about books for young readers for 20.2. I thought that Vietnam #1: I Pledge Allegiance (3rd grade level) and The Snow Spider (4th grade level) would be considered young readers and not appropriate. Could you verify, and give us some guidelines to go by please? Thanks.


message 44: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7514 comments Connie - you might do better to send one of them a PM


message 45: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Here's some background for Young Reader books

The Task Creator does have some input into what is appropriate for his or her task. It is always best to ask about specific books in the appropriate help thread.

In very general terms- again, ask if there is a question, if a book has been shelved as middle grades or YA, it is appropriate for SRC tasks.


message 46: by ♥Meagan♥ (new)

♥Meagan♥ (fadedrainbows) | 104 comments Dlmrose, for all tasks or just 5, 10, or 15 pts?


message 47: by Dlmrose (last edited Dec 07, 2011 04:11PM) (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
♥Meagan♥ wrote: "Dlmrose, for all tasks or just 5, 10, or 15 pts?"

Young Reader books may be used for 5-15 point tasks so you don't need to ask about that aspect of a book for those tasks. 20 point and higher---best to ask about specific titles in the help thread


message 48: by Connie (new)

Connie G (connie_g) | 371 comments I'm going to assume that the 3rd and 4th grade level books are appropriate then for a 20 point task.


message 49: by Dlmrose (new)

Dlmrose | 17400 comments Mod
Connie wrote: "I'm going to assume that the 3rd and 4th grade level books are appropriate then for a 20 point task."

The suitability of primary grade books is based less on the target age and more on the reading accommodations- the formatting, etc.


message 50: by Chris (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 905 comments Connie wrote: "I need to check with a mod about books for young readers for 20.2. I thought that Vietnam #1: I Pledge Allegiance (3rd grade level) and The Snow Spider (4th grade leve..."

I've questioned Vietnam #1: I Pledge Allegiance as well. I know Amazon says third grade and up, but I think that has got to be a mistake or Scholastic has purposely mislabeled the book to try to increase sales. (It was the hottest seller at our middle school book fair last month.) The book is definitely intended for at least 5th grade and up. While I don't like to say that any book is "inappropriate" for anyone - I think the number of third graders who would actually read/comprehend this book is very limited.


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