The Bookhouse Boys discussion
What Else Are You Reading?

Other than the excellent Ragtime, I'm reading The Darling, The Ground Beneath Her Feet (that one's been going on for a while... wordy wordy Rushdie!), The Making of a Chef: Mastering Heat at the Culinary Institute, and probably a few other things I've been in the middle of so long I've forgotten I was even reading them. Tons of comics, too. Sometimes I wish I had the ability to read just one thing at a time, so I could actually finish things in a not-ridiculous amount of time... a skill I'm hoping to acquire (at least in part) from the Bookhouse Boys!
I've read a whopping single chapter of Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell; I started it on a train ride and haven't returned to it yet. Not because I didn't like it. I tend to be a one book at a time kind of guy, and the book club selections have been keeping me busy. I have read some comics lately (An Elegy for Amelia Johnson, Shadoweyes, Volume One, The Downsized), but nothing earth-shattering.



Welcome, Sherry!
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P.S. Hi, Mom! :)
P.S. Hi, Mom! :)
Has anyone read A Personal Matter by Kenzaburō Ōe? I have been eying my wife's copy of this for a while.

It's been a long time since I read "The Handmaid's Tale" but I didn't remember the transcript. After checking out my non-fancy 1985 printing, though, it's there at the end, so it's not just your version. I'm sorry to hear it ruined your experience, though; kind of like a movie that should have ended at the penultimate scene?
I would like to do a book by Margaret Atwood for the podcast sometime. She has her own niche somewhere between speculative science fiction and feminism that's both unique and interesting.
I'm going out of town for nine days and I'm anticipating a lot of downtime when I get there so, in addition to Midaq Alley, I'm bringing American Gods to finally start. I've heard it's his best and I enjoyed Anansi Boys, so I'm looking forward to it.

Interesting that you read ANANSI BOYS first - that's generally considered a sequel(ish) to AMERICAN GODS. But I like both books - though NEVERWHERE is my personal favorite :) What can I say, I read it a few months after falling in love with London and the whole story takes place in Tube stations and abandoned underground areas around the city.
I finally finished RAGTIME while Dave and I were on vacation, and I have also finished Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal for my real-life book club.
Started Born on a Blue Day: Inside the Extraordinary Mind of an Autistic Savant today. I try and stick non-fiction books between fiction, just to keep my brain limber.
Just got House Made of Dawn in the mail today, so I'll be starting that soon. I'm also reading Gore Vidal's The Judgment of Paris, one of the few of his I haven't ever gotten around to.
Heather wrote: "I plugged you guys..."
Aw, shucks! : ^ )
That's nice of you! I'm starting the book today, too.
While I was camping this weekend an HS-teacher friend of mine told me about the John Francis TED Talk he used in his class: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/joh.... This man's story is so interesting that I'm going to have to go and get his book
Planetwalker: A Memoir of 22 Years of Walking and 17 Years of Silence.
Aw, shucks! : ^ )
That's nice of you! I'm starting the book today, too.
While I was camping this weekend an HS-teacher friend of mine told me about the John Francis TED Talk he used in his class: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/joh.... This man's story is so interesting that I'm going to have to go and get his book
Planetwalker: A Memoir of 22 Years of Walking and 17 Years of Silence.
I was wondering how Never Let Me Go would re-read... so far, so good! Just finished Part 1 this morning. Definitely curious to see what everyone else thinks of it.
Sherry wrote: "Uncle Tom's Cabin I am finally reading this book, not just reading "about" it, and it is very good reading. There are relevant ideas to think about."
This book, in my experience, falls into the category of classic works that get referenced and alluded to more than they get read by modern audiences. I wonder if it would be a good BBoys read? Hmmm...
This book, in my experience, falls into the category of classic works that get referenced and alluded to more than they get read by modern audiences. I wonder if it would be a good BBoys read? Hmmm...

Leaving town for a few days. I'm almost done with Affliction, so I am bringing a couple of books as back-ups: 1984 and Hard Times: An Oral History of the Great Depression, as well as some comics Lone Wolf & Cub, Vol. 1: The Assassin's Road and The Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service. Woohoo!
Matt wrote: "Leaving town for a few days. I almost done with Affliction, so I am bringing a couple of books as back-ups: 1984 and [book:Hard Times: An Oral History of the Great Depress..."
Those are literally my two favorite manga series of all time...probably. LW&C definitely is.
Have fun. Look out for river sharks.
Those are literally my two favorite manga series of all time...probably. LW&C definitely is.
Have fun. Look out for river sharks.

No. No.
Gotta catch up on Affliction first.
Fall weather has hit us here and once that happens, a lifelong obsession is renewed: Halloween.
I'll be reading The Haunting of Hill House to celebrate my favorite holiday.
I welcome any Halloween lit suggestions (FYI: I've read Dracula, Frankenstein, and The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Tales of Terror many times :)).
I'll be reading The Haunting of Hill House to celebrate my favorite holiday.
I welcome any Halloween lit suggestions (FYI: I've read Dracula, Frankenstein, and The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Tales of Terror many times :)).
If you like Henry James, maybe The Turn of the Screw? Short and in the public domain... James isn't for everybody, though.
How about At the Mountains of Madness? Oh, wait...
Have you ever read Strange Eons by Robert Bloch? I have no idea if it holds up, but it is the book that scared me the most when I read it, many years ago. Basic premise: Lovecraft was on to something.
Have you ever read Strange Eons by Robert Bloch? I have no idea if it holds up, but it is the book that scared me the most when I read it, many years ago. Basic premise: Lovecraft was on to something.
Dave wrote: "If you like Henry James, maybe The Turn of the Screw? Short and in the public domain... James isn't for everybody, though."
Read it. Dug it. I like the psychology in that story.
Jason wrote: "How about At the Mountains of Madness? Oh, wait...
Have you ever read Strange Eons by Robert Bloch? I have no idea if it holds up, but it is the book that scared me the most when I read it, many..."
I have read some of Bloch's short stories, but haven't read Strange Eons. I will definitely check it out. Thanks!
Read it. Dug it. I like the psychology in that story.
Jason wrote: "How about At the Mountains of Madness? Oh, wait...
Have you ever read Strange Eons by Robert Bloch? I have no idea if it holds up, but it is the book that scared me the most when I read it, many..."
I have read some of Bloch's short stories, but haven't read Strange Eons. I will definitely check it out. Thanks!
Starting The Ghost Map: The Story of London's Most Terrifying Epidemic - and How It Changed Science, Cities, and the Modern World. This was an "Everybody Reads" pick a year or two ago. I missed out on the discussions and visit from the author, unfortunately.
Maybe I'll make an effort to keep up with these from here on out. It's a neat idea.
Maybe I'll make an effort to keep up with these from here on out. It's a neat idea.
Has anyone read Baltimore, or, The Steadfast Tin Soldier and the Vampire? It seems like a good bet for one of my occasional genre reads.

I read it a few years back. Didn't make much of an impression on me, though. A bit wordy, light on plot, but packed with portent and mood. I'd give it three stars, FWIW. You could definitely give it a shot.
My wife Kate recommends Ready Player One, especially for geeks who grew up in the '80's. If you owned an Atari 2600, you are the target audience. Kate is not a geek, but she enjoyed the book.
I started reading True Crime Detective Stories, From the Archives of the Pinkertons (free on the Kindle - woot!). I've been very interested in the Pinkertons ever since I first read about them a long time ago (in a Freemason-conspiracy book?). Their reputation (whenever they appear in any historical writing, non-fiction or fiction) has always impressed me.
I'm only on the first case, so far, but it's great fun
I'm only on the first case, so far, but it's great fun
As you may have heard me mention on a recent episode, I had never read Treasure Island (before then). The Kindle has been a great way for me to get on my "I can't believe I've never read this!" list. Currently in the middle of The Call of the Wild. London's crisp, lean prose is a welcome break after Faulkner's dense, experimental writing. After this, I'll move on to Wuthering Heights. (Don't laugh...I'm correcting the situation!)

Sweet! My son just read an abridged White Fang, and he was thrilled. I remember liking Call of the Wild in school, but I haven't read it since.
But I've reread Wuthering Heights a few times. Still one of my favorites.
Although, Kate Beaton makes a good point here.
When Hitchens died, I moved
up to the top of my NF list. Never read him or knew much about him, so now seems like as good a time as any.

Finished our selection early, so I'm hoping to squeeze a few books in before February. Starting with The Tender Bar and The Lost City of Z: A Tale of Deadly Obsession in the Amazon.
Haven't actually cracked The Lost City of Z yet because I started reading Wuthering Heights on the Kindle. I'm only a few chapters in, but I absolutely love it. I wish I could sit in a comfy spot and read the whole thing in one sitting. Oh, well, back to the salt mines.
That's one I need to revisit... haven't read it since my senior year in high school. Woe to those who are so old they must read books twice in order to remember what happened!
Dave wrote: "Woe to those who are so old they must read books twice in order to remember what happened!"
Getting old is much better than the alternative!
Getting old is much better than the alternative!
Decided to sneak in King Solomon's Mines before starting our February book. I'm only about 5 chapters in, but there's already been waaaay more elephant slaughtering than I care for. :S
Other than that, the book is breezy, adventurous fun, so far, and it's just getting started.
Other than that, the book is breezy, adventurous fun, so far, and it's just getting started.
Done. In order to maintain a balanced reading diet, I always try to read a non-fiction book along with whatever fiction title I'm reading. I'm going to start a book by Erik Larson (author of the absolutely wonderful The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America). This one's called Thunderstruck and if it's half as good as TDitWC, I'm going to be thrilled.
SLOGGING through The Shipping News. Having a real hard time connecting with this book, but feel oddly compelled to keep going. Am I falling into the "but it won a PyyyUUUUUU-litzer!" trap, or does someone want to give me an alt point of view that'll help me along?
Forced my way through 100 excruciating pages of The Shipping News before finally giving up. Can't even remember the last time I refused to finish a book, but I was getting absolutely nothing out of it and hated just about every syllable of the ride. I think the Pulitzer Prize for Literature and I just plain old DO NOT get along.
Can't wait to pick up another book and get this awful taste out of my mouth... ready for something, anything, that doesn't make my brain scream "FUCKING STOOOOOOPPPP!!!" the whole time I'm reading.
Can't wait to pick up another book and get this awful taste out of my mouth... ready for something, anything, that doesn't make my brain scream "FUCKING STOOOOOOPPPP!!!" the whole time I'm reading.
Dave wrote: "Forced my way through 100 excruciating pages of The Shipping News before finally giving up. Can't even remember the last time I refused to finish a book, but I was getting absolutely nothing out of..."
Wow. I didn't love it, by any means, but don't remember it being painful, at all. Hast thou considered The Help? ;)
Wow. I didn't love it, by any means, but don't remember it being painful, at all. Hast thou considered The Help? ;)
Okay....
At its absolute best, the book was as compelling as listening to the most boring stranger alive tell you stories at a 5-hour dinner party. That's at its absolute best.
The book jacket describes it as "darkly comic," but all I saw were a thousand missed opportunities for comedy. Like the hilarious scene where sad-sack Quoyle buys a boat off of a guy on the dock for $50. He thinks he got a great deal, but we as readers think, "Uh-oh! Bet there's something wrong with that boat!" And indeed there is.
So, how does Quoyle find out this information? Does he take the boat in the water and nearly drown himself after a series of mishaps? Does he leave it in the water overnight and come back to find it sunk? Nah. A guy kinda points out, "Hey, that's not a very good boat! Shabby workmanship, as detailed by the blah blah blahhhhhh for a long paragraph I didn't read because I was too busy pounding my face against the wall."
Combine that with the fact that the book is told in the sort of stilted prose that makes you think it was maybe translated through Google Voice by Robert Shaw as Quint in Jaws. Most paragraphs averaged one, maybe two complete sentences, and the rest were fragments. This includes not just the narrator, but all the characters as well. A sample paragraph, chosen completely at random:
“The hill tilting toward the water, the straggled pickets and then Dennis’s aquamarine house with a picture window toward the street. Quoyle pulled pens from his shirt, put them on the dashboard before he went in. For pens got in the way. The door opened into the kitchen. Quoyle stepped around and over children. In the living room, under a tinted photograph of two stout women lolling in ferns, Dennis slouched on leopard-print sofa cushions, watched the fishery news. On each side of him crocheted pillows in rainbows and squares. Carpenter at Home.”
There's some nice wordplay in there, some good imagery... but reading an entire novel written like that felt like listening to an 8-year-old hammering on a drum set, searching for a rhythm that never quite came to him.
The content itself wasn't offensive to my sensibilities, merely uninteresting on every level. Loser guy makes poor decisions, lives a pitiful life. That's pretty much the long and short of it. Any color or potential dazzle (such as Petal Bunny, for instance) gets killed off within 5 pages so good old Quoyle, who's about as interesting a character as a raw potato, can piss and moan about it for 200 more.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I'm not sure a novel intentionally written to irritate me could have done a better job.
At its absolute best, the book was as compelling as listening to the most boring stranger alive tell you stories at a 5-hour dinner party. That's at its absolute best.
The book jacket describes it as "darkly comic," but all I saw were a thousand missed opportunities for comedy. Like the hilarious scene where sad-sack Quoyle buys a boat off of a guy on the dock for $50. He thinks he got a great deal, but we as readers think, "Uh-oh! Bet there's something wrong with that boat!" And indeed there is.
So, how does Quoyle find out this information? Does he take the boat in the water and nearly drown himself after a series of mishaps? Does he leave it in the water overnight and come back to find it sunk? Nah. A guy kinda points out, "Hey, that's not a very good boat! Shabby workmanship, as detailed by the blah blah blahhhhhh for a long paragraph I didn't read because I was too busy pounding my face against the wall."
Combine that with the fact that the book is told in the sort of stilted prose that makes you think it was maybe translated through Google Voice by Robert Shaw as Quint in Jaws. Most paragraphs averaged one, maybe two complete sentences, and the rest were fragments. This includes not just the narrator, but all the characters as well. A sample paragraph, chosen completely at random:
“The hill tilting toward the water, the straggled pickets and then Dennis’s aquamarine house with a picture window toward the street. Quoyle pulled pens from his shirt, put them on the dashboard before he went in. For pens got in the way. The door opened into the kitchen. Quoyle stepped around and over children. In the living room, under a tinted photograph of two stout women lolling in ferns, Dennis slouched on leopard-print sofa cushions, watched the fishery news. On each side of him crocheted pillows in rainbows and squares. Carpenter at Home.”
There's some nice wordplay in there, some good imagery... but reading an entire novel written like that felt like listening to an 8-year-old hammering on a drum set, searching for a rhythm that never quite came to him.
The content itself wasn't offensive to my sensibilities, merely uninteresting on every level. Loser guy makes poor decisions, lives a pitiful life. That's pretty much the long and short of it. Any color or potential dazzle (such as Petal Bunny, for instance) gets killed off within 5 pages so good old Quoyle, who's about as interesting a character as a raw potato, can piss and moan about it for 200 more.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I'm not sure a novel intentionally written to irritate me could have done a better job.
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In addition to our current group selection, I'm reading Deep, Dark and Dangerous: On the Bottom with the Northwest Salvage Divers. My wife bought this for me during our visit to the Columbia River Maritime Museum in Astoria. So far, it's a well-written look into the history of an incredibly perilous job that I find fascinating. A job that sounds like a nightmare for claustrophobe and aquaphobe alike.
I'm also starting the Oedipus Plays of Sophocles because I've never read them and love Classic Greek stuff. The translation by Roche seems to be a happy medium between accessibility and accurate recreation/equivalent of the source.