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message 101: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments @Wendy -I bought some books from that promotion a couple of days ago. There are couple on there that I've wanted for a while but were too expensive, I was so happy when I saw they were included in this.


message 102: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments Very cool. And, just so I'm understanding correctly, those that do not have an actual Kindle, but do have a Kindle app on another device will be able to use the program too?

Rats, Ames! Blast those regional restrictions! When will they learn?!


message 103: by Vivian (new)

Vivian (_vivian) | 1934 comments **doing a happy dance and squealing in my head**

Overdrive + Amazon makes me one happy girl :D

That just about made my week!


message 104: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments I just saw this -- apparantly if a customer buys a book through an App on an Apple product, Apple charges the vendor 30% for the sale. If a customer, howver, purchases the book outside of the app -- i.e. online through the web browser, then Apple doesn't charge the fee.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-200...


message 105: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments I was kind of hoping that would go away. Apple are too greedy. Amazon's avoided it so far but if they enforce it then I hope Amazon withdraw their app rather than increase prices to pay "protection fees" to the Mob Apple.


message 106: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments I was shocked by it, not sure why. It sort of breaks my heart b/c I love my iPhone so much. It is interesting but unfair that Apple has let Amazon avoid the fees (to the mob, lol) but regected Sony's app. I am going to play around with my Nook and Kobo apps on my iphone, I can't remember if I buy through the app (theoretically, since I don't buy my books from them) or if I am sent to the interent.

I kinda get what Apple is trying to do, but the cost is too high. And Apple is so popular right now b/c of the number of Apps. Amazon's app store for the Android that it launched now makes alot of sense in terms of why Amazon is pushing that (besides its desire to dominate the world -- but I still like Amazon, don't get me wrong).


message 107: by Nici (new)

Nici (queennici102) | 697 comments I didn't know Amazon had an app store, does it have a variety of apps?


message 108: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments I haven't looked into it, I hope I didn't misunderstand what it was for, it looked like it was for the Android .... yup it is along the left side of the home page, here is a direct link: http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/r...


message 109: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments I only own one Apple product -my old iPod Nano and that was enough for me. I went for an Android phone, an HTC Desire. iPhones have been getting some bad press lately e.g. Apple secretly tracking users' locations, and are apparently becoming less popular.

Hopefully, this measure will lead to businesses threatening to withdraw their apps altogether and Apple being be forced to back down.


message 110: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments I love my iPhone, but I have to say that if Amazon is developing an App store it will soon rival iTunes (if it doesn't already). Its music store is better than iTunes in my opinion. Off to read your linked articles.


message 111: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments I will definitely become a customer of Amazon's app store when it becomes available here.

As I've complained to Steph before, I HATE iTunes but I do business with them because it's a pain to transfer non-iTunes material onto the stupid iPod. *takes a deep breath* Sorry, my blood pressure rises just thinking about it.


message 112: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments Ames have you bought music and audio books through Amazon? I know it is one giant v. the other, but Amazon has a nifty program you automatically download and then it automatically puts the music/audio book into your iTunes library. And just like with books, Amazon archives your music/audio books so unlike iTunes -- you can redownload whenever you want. Not sure if this is available in the UK though ...


message 113: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments Yes, I've bought music from Amazon. No idea if I can get that programme. Sounds good. Looking into that now.


message 114: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments Ames here is the US link to the downloader: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custome...


message 115: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments OMG, Regina! I love you! It didn't work at first, had to download another song but it WORKS! Adios iTunes store. Hello, Amazon baby! Seriously, I could kiss you right now, Regina. Thank you, thank you, thank you!


message 116: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments Yes!!!!! I am so happy for you. I spent a weekend in tears after I lost all that stuff so I completely understand your excitement. And the fact that you don't have to do anything but just click yes to buy! Woohoo! It is a new music buying world for you! :)


message 117: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments It certainly is! Whoohooo! In your face, Apple! Kiss my cellulite covered ass!


message 118: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments HAhahaha!


message 119: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments LMAO!! Yes, I am an admitted iGadget geek. But, I detest iTunes! Add my cellie ass to the mix b/c they can kiss it!

I'm not happy about the %, but I tend to buy my books from my computer and then add to my iGadgets. So, I should be ok since I'm not buyin' through their app(s). Still - sucks!

Judithe will be happy to see, if she hasn't found it already, Amazon's Droid app store since she recently purchased one.


message 120: by Tania (new)

Tania Audible also have a nice little app for your iGadget that allows you to purchase/download/manage your audible library.

I do have to say I don't mind iTunes as a media manager particularly considering I have an iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad that I use and sync. But I rarely buy things from the store except for music, unless like in the case of Lover Unleashed it means I can get to something I desperately want earlier than the US stores release.


message 121: by Steph, Serious series addict (last edited Apr 21, 2011 09:29PM) (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments I really like Audible's app. I use it for all my audiobooks loaded in iTunes.

I especially like their bookmark feature.


message 122: by Vivian (new)

Vivian (_vivian) | 1934 comments Amazon music is pretty great - plus, they have awesome deals, including album of the day and tons of $5.00 cds. I mucho prefer it to iTunes.

For now, I think Amazon's app store is only for Android - if you have one, they have a free app of the day, which in the past has included pretty popular games like Angry Birds and Diner Dash.
(I feel like a bit of a nerd for knowing this stuff even though I own an iPhone...)


message 123: by Steph, Serious series addict (last edited Apr 21, 2011 11:24PM) (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments Off-topic, but I'm a mega Angry Birds addict! I can lose hours playing it. In fact, it's gotten to where I can't start it up if I have a book to read b/c it'll seriously cut into my readin' time.


message 124: by Tania (new)

Tania Stupid pigs...


message 125: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments LOL! I play the Rio version mainly, it's the only one I bought. But, I have the other free ones. So for me it's stupid cheeky monkeys! ;)


message 126: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments Lol Vivian! Me too and I own and iPhone. But seeing as how amazon is backing apps for the android when I update I may get an android next year.

Steph that is too funny!!


message 127: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments >:)


message 128: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments I hate those pigs, mocking me with their toothy grins. Die, you buggers, die!


message 129: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments LMAO!


message 130: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments I just spotted this:

Though there wasn’t too much Dougall could say about the future of Google eBooks, he did report that the international rollout will kick into high gear this year, with the ultimate goal of making Google eBooks available in 100 countries. Cagily, he answered an audience question about a possible Netflix-style book-rental system by saying, “We haven’t announced anything like that. Yet.” [Source]

I want it. I want it now! It would mean me buying another e-reader but I would definitely be interested in this service.


message 131: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments I'm interested in that too, but not keen on buying a specific e-reader. Thanks for the info.


message 132: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments Steph wrote: "I'm interested in that too, but not keen on buying a specific e-reader. Thanks for the info."

You probably won't need to buy one, Steph. I just meant I'd need to because I only have a Kindle and I don't particularly like reading on my phone so I'd buy a Sony or a Kobo for the epubs.


message 133: by Vivian (new)

Vivian (_vivian) | 1934 comments It's about time! I've been waiting for a netflix-style book rental since before I got an e-reader.


message 134: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments Oh, then COOL! ;)


message 135: by Judithe, Soap Operas never end.... (new)

Judithe | 6566 comments Steph wrote: "Judithe will be happy to see, if she hasn't found it already, Amazon's Droid app store since she recently purchased one. ..."

So exciting ...and WOW...I'm behind on the topic! Immediately scrambled to check the links once I finally saw it...non-US users will have to wait a bit longer...sigh.


message 136: by AH (new)

AH | 2271 comments Kobo is coming out with a new touch screen soon. (If you are planning on getting a Kobo). Price in Canada was $129, probably cheaper in the US (don't know why - our $ is worth more now).


message 137: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments Interesting. Thanks for the heads up, AH.


message 138: by AH (new)

AH | 2271 comments I figure I'll get one of those when my Kobo dies. Until then, old tech for me.


message 139: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments That's the downside of getting a non-Kindle. They won't replace the dead ereader for free, I'd have to buy a new one. It better be cheap when comes the UK, LOL!


message 140: by Literary Ames (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 1854 comments Perhaps I spoke too soon. Looks like Amazon is switching to epub format for its ebooks so their library lending deal with Overdrive will go more smoothly. That saves me some money then. :D

http://www.futurebook.net/content/amazons-astonishing-move-epub


message 141: by AH (new)

AH | 2271 comments Wow, that is good news. Kind of like the beta max and VHS, huh?


message 142: by Vivian (new)

Vivian (_vivian) | 1934 comments Woohoo! That would be so incredibly awesome! I've got plenty of epubs that I won't have to read on my computer or phone.


message 143: by Judithe, Soap Operas never end.... (new)

Judithe | 6566 comments Fingers crossed it'll actually work out like we all dream!! LOL!


message 144: by Steph, Serious series addict (new)

Steph (angel4492) | 32724 comments yay! I'm just now seeing everyone's updates. Sounds like good news (or should be).


message 145: by Vivian (new)

Vivian (_vivian) | 1934 comments Just read an article here about some of the expected overdrive changes, notably:
- more books able to be checked out simultaneously
- of course, the kindle compatibility

But that could be the end of waiting lists for some titles, which is kind of exciting!


message 146: by Judithe, Soap Operas never end.... (new)

Judithe | 6566 comments Wouldn't it be wonderful to see an end to e-book waiting lists! Those just make very little sense...


message 147: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments I haven't read the article yet (excited about it though thanks for posting! I am off to read it as soon as I am done posting ...) but I am wondering how could they end wait lists and wouldn't publishers want them? (see initial article I posted when I started this thread ...)


message 148: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 2883 comments I like this, "and add an opt-in feature that let patrons recommend desired titles to their libraries." So this is about the unrestricted ones, it seems limited to certain genres? "OverDrive hasn't elaborated on how this will change, other than to say they will soon provide "new 'always available' e-book collections for simultaneous access of romance, self-help, young adult, children, and other fiction materials."


message 149: by Judithe, Soap Operas never end.... (new)

Judithe | 6566 comments Hmmm...the issues you addressed in the first post are still there. I doubt limitations will go away all together...but fingers crossed that there will be more availability. I hope some of the "hold-out" publishers will change their minds, as well...


message 150: by Dana (last edited Jun 19, 2011 09:53AM) (new)

Dana (erato) | 922 comments I own a Kindle and work at a library so this is like waiting for Christmas to come! Gah! I'm so excited though.

I don't think there will ever be a complete elimination of the the limits issue, but the eformat has many other benefits that a 'real' book doesn't when it comes to circulation, that it will even out the pros/cons I think.

For one, ebooks are always 'returned' on time. No one can renew the book if another person has it on hold so the patron does not have control of the book, the library does. This way no one will ever be subject to those individuals who check out a book and keep it for 4 months. (Gggrrrrr..)

Also, the issues with lost, stolen, mends(needs repair) and weeds(throw away condition) will be a thing of the past with the ebook format. Many books fall into these categories and that sorely limits a library's lending ability. Ebooks never need repair or become too damaged and must be tossed out. The files will just be replaced by the publisher if they are corrupted, no problem.

Additionally, lending to the speed of turn-around for availability, will be the fact that there is no time lost within the library itself before making the title available. Once the ebook is 'returned', then bam, "Next please." You will not have to wait for the library to transfer the books between themselves or for the delays caused by running reports and pulling titles off the shelves.

When it comes to the limitations issue though, I am unsure how that will be worked out. Currently libraries will 'lease' additional copies of super-popular titles in addition to the ones they purchase to cover reader demand. The publisher still makes out fine since they resell the leased copies. In ebook format, that won't really work as I see it. No 'used' books.

Smarter people than I are working on solutions to these problems though so hopefully we will see resolution to the last roadblocks soon. :)


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