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Stephanie Meyer's "vampires" discussion
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I have made another comic. I hope you all like it!
I personally am a huge werewolf fan and jacob and his pack turned me very sour.
Isn't it amazing that the series revolves around dead metrosexuals, yet only one character actually leaves and he wasn't a sparkling pansy?
I have not read far enough to know about Jacob and his pack, but I heard that he basically acts like every other male in the book i.e. following around the Sue like a pathatic little puppy.A disgrace to proud werewolves everywhere.
i dont think a dyke can really b called a vamp so srry sm
a lezbo iz a dyke
hahahhahahahahaha sorry i am very "clean" person all my friends say that hehe
OOOOOOHHHH!!!!! My friends four friends are bi, and friends enemy is lesbo, I could launch into a huge story about it, but I wont
okk good because i dont really wanna hear it
okay a lot of the thing the vamp. do does make senceThey drink blood
They are super strong
They are pale white
They do have feelings
They are the living-dead
They CAN fall in love
They are extremely beutiful
C it does make sence Ah duh
beautiful??????????? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww beautiful and vampires do not go together
Firstly, hello everyone. I'm new to this site and I plan to use it as an alternative to social networking sites. I despise social networking sites, you see. They're kind of like publicized stalker central. Also, I haven't read all the comments in this topic yet, so excuse me if I'm repeating something.I despise Twilight, mainly because it had to fall into the hands of Meyer. If you really think about it, the story has potential. The Volturi. Edward's possessiveness and Bella's dependency. The battles, the wolves- everything. The basic skeleton of the book is no worse than other vampire fiction that I've read. When it comes down to the actual writing? Uggh. Holy shit, Batman! Major thesaurus abuse.
Having said that, I'm going to try and play devil's advocate and attempt to explain how exactly Edward managed to knock Bella up.
Firstly- the way vampires are said to be "frozen" in the state that they died in is our first clue. They never get old, they never decay. Venom substitutes blood, perhaps. If I remember correctly, this is the explanation that SM gave in one of her books. Having said that, I also recall that vampire venom is extremely toxic to humans. Makes you wonder why Bella's uterus didn't burn out when he ejaculated in her.
The super strength can be partially explained this way: When they die, they sort of "harden" and their skin changes to something like marble. Cuticle deposits or something? Add that to dead pain receptors and you have walking dead people that can't feel pain and have tougher skin than normal people. Then again, this does not explain how they are capable of supermanish stunts. Bah.
Super strength, speed, etc I am willing to accept, since they go with the classic idea of what a vampire is supposed to be. But the whole biology aspect is downright retarded. Mayer tries to explain things like 23(?) chromosomes for werewolves and rubbish like that, but when someone points out her obvious fallouts she goes "But I'm not a Biology major!"
Make up your goddamn mind, then!
I agree with you on the story's potential and stuff. But I really don't understand how Edward's semen withstood a whole century and didn't kill Bella. And the supermanish stunts? That's just an added bonus to make vampires look really Cool and Awesome so that the idea's appealing to the readers. Throw in special abilities (especially in Breaking Dawn) and readers will crave to be vampires.
Kit wrote: "I agree with you on the story's potential and stuff. But I really don't understand how Edward's semen withstood a whole century and didn't kill Bella. And the supermanish stunts? That's just an a..."
Edward possibly has super human semen, since he seems to have super human everything. If you follow the rules of the real world, then they'd probably die since he's so "ice cold" and semen require about 1-2 degrees cooler than the average body temperature (About 35-37 degrees). So, basically, his super semen survived just like every other bit of him survived. I guess its just something that vampires do (and this goes with the popular concept of vampires- eternal beauty, eternal youth in exchange for being kind of dead). The same goes for the superhuman stunts, I suppose.
And hey! I actually loved the "special abilities" thing. Again, another concept that has great potential but was ruined because of overuse and abuse. Personally, the concept of Jasper's and Alice's abilities were my favourite. While her explanation of Alice's precognitive abilities isn't infallible, its one of the neatest I've heard so far.
Edit: As an afterthought, if we follow the super semen theory, it would mean that his semen is frozen in time just like every other bit of him. Technically, this would mean that he can only ejaculate a limited number of times, since his testes aren't producing more semen. o_o'
what r u guys talking about?? vamps arent really the living dead..what happened was.. (i read this sumwhere in the bible so if ur not Christian well then..this is the most reasonable reason thative eva heard so watevs) a long time ago a dude was taking God for granted so God said that hima and all his offspring could never die so there was a bunch of other stuff i cant remember but wahtever
Uh. In Meyer's view point, vampires actually are the living dead. She has made this reference many times in many places. The whole concept of their hearts stopping once they turn is usually enough to convince most people they're not alive. Also, this idea is intriguing. I'm agnostic, but I've read bits of the bible. Can you elaborate on this? Give me some names to look up, or something?
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LOL, "super semen"??? I'm sorry, but I just coughed up my lemonade when I read that. I'm seeing these semen with capes 'flying' through a uterus to 'rescue' the egg.The bottom line is Meyer's job as an author was to make vampiric pregnancy plausible and she failed miserably. There was NO explanation in the first three books, and in fact part of the attraction for Bella to have sex with Edward is that she couldn't get pregnant, since he is for all intents and purposes DEAD.
Suddenly in the last book, she's carrying some sort of scary mutant super-baby a la the immaculate conception, which wouldn't surprise me considering Meyer's Mormonism.
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ignore that...
In Balkan folklore vampire are capable of breeding with humans. The child is called a Dhampir. So I guess Edwards kid will be like D from Vampire Hunter D, except he would be as cool, and… sparkly?
Steven wrote: "In Balkan folklore vampire are capable of breeding with humans. The child is called a Dhampir. So I guess Edwards kid will be like D from Vampire Hunter D, except he would be as cool, and… sparkly?"Don't you mean, "wouldn't be as cool"?
Zeppelin wrote: "Firstly, hello everyone. I'm new to this site and I plan to use it as an alternative to social networking sites. I despise social networking sites, you see. They're kind of like publicized stalker ..."How could she abuse the thesaurus when she didn't even use it. As far as adjectives go she stuck to "sparkly, velvety, beautiful...I think that was it
I was asking the super semen question on another discussion board. Glad to see I'm not the only one wondering about this.
Jenads85 wrote: "Zeppelin wrote: "Firstly, hello everyone. I'm new to this site and I plan to use it as an alternative to social networking sites. I despise social networking sites, you see. They're kind of like pu..."
velvety? lol
velvety? lol
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OMG!!!!! this is really random, bt i wsaw interveiw with the vapire last night, the only akshual vamp movie ive seen since twilight, and IT WAS AKSHULLY PRETTY DECENT!!!!!!!!
OMG!!!!! this is really random, bt i wsaw interveiw with the vapire last night, the only akshual vamp movie ive seen since twilight, and IT WAS AKSHULLY PRETTY DECENT!!!!!!!!
lol,welcome to the club of total pessimists, rose
*groan* ew, my lil bro has the garage door open and it STINKS!
yeah, now i wanna read the book... mayb after im done with dracula, which is taking foreever....
*groan* ew, my lil bro has the garage door open and it STINKS!
yeah, now i wanna read the book... mayb after im done with dracula, which is taking foreever....
@ Celine: I ment Edward's kid wouldn't be as cool as Vampire Hunter D.
if edward has a kid, im calling van helsing! *pulls out phone*
i know that! yeesh! i just forgot!
*calls van helsing, anyways*
*calls van helsing, anyways*
lol, i can't believe tho that a guy can love in love with a 3 year old (i'm guessing her age) tho it would be cute if she grew up with him and he was always there for her, then she fell in love with him (i'm a closet romantic)
*calling vanhelsing*
nellie-la:hello? van helsing? yeah, theres this creep here whos calling himself a 'werewolf' and is hoplessly in luv with this creepy thing that a bunch of sparklepires are calling a baby...
nellie-la:hello? van helsing? yeah, theres this creep here whos calling himself a 'werewolf' and is hoplessly in luv with this creepy thing that a bunch of sparklepires are calling a baby...
but think about it, in the olden days age didn't really matter like it does now
kiara wrote: "lol, i can't believe tho that a guy can love in love with a 3 year old (i'm guessing her age) tho it would be cute if she grew up with him and he was always there for her, then she fell in love wit..."Not really, because... he'd have been there since ever, and I'm sure she would see him as a father figure, and maybe that'd be really sickening for her...
Besides, it's only 'cause he didn't get Bella, because she liked stalker boyfriends.
Celine wrote: "kiara wrote: "lol, i can't believe tho that a guy can love in love with a 3 year old (i'm guessing her age) tho it would be cute if she grew up with him and he was always there for her, then she fe..."Amen
What? I honestly find the idea sick. The guy is just waiting for her to hit 7 (when she will be an adult physically) >.>
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