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Gone again. Just got the fourth book in the series and decided it was time for a review.
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I'm reading The Hungar Games Series and so far I wish there were more details. It's a great series!! Can't wait to finish it.
Stephen wrote: "I'm reading
Gone again. Just got the fourth book in the series and decided it was time for a review."What age appropriate is this for? I think my 12 year old/6th grade daughter would love this ....
I finished
and moved on to the audio of #2
I am still reading
but also started
which I am loving!
Hmmm, it's really violent Regina. I'm not sure where you stand on that, but it's very very violent and gory. There's no sex, but there's sex discussion. Other then those two things I bet she'd like it.
Wendy F wrote: "Hmmm, it's really voilet Regina. I'm not sure where you stand on that, but it's very very voilent and gory. There's no sex, but there's sex discussion. Other then those two things I bet she'd li..."Wendy that is really helpful. It sounds too mature for her now. Good news is, she can read it in a few years and she has plenty to read in the interim. :)
Regarding Gone and violence and sex... I've never been a good one to ask about what's suitable for children of various ages.
As to SEX... This book is pretty chaste. If one's worried about sexual situations, the kids in the story are no older than 14 and the furthest that it goes is a kiss. The protagonist, Sam even mentions about being pressured/encouraged by his mom into his first date, (it was ok but big deal to him) but now he's kinda crushing on Astrid (the Genius)
As to violence... It is disturbing and violent, but not really gory. Some children die. Sam, the main protagonist kills the first little girl accidentally, when she panics and tries to kill him. A bully also hits a girl with a baseball bat and she later dies. However, unlike the violence that kids see everyday on TV, most of the killers here feel guilty about it and are clearly remorseful over what they have done. There is even a scene where Quinn, the protagonist's best friend is up in a tower with an automatic weapon but he can't bring himself to shoot the villains. Sam, not only understands but is glad in a way that his buddy can't do it.
As to language... It's pretty tame.
I'm pretty sure that this book is NOT appropriate for younger children. As I said in my review of the second book in this series The book is riveting but may be too intense for younger audiences. Say anyone under 78... It's sort of a stealthy Lord of the Flies as told by Stephen King with a generous dollop of the X-Men thrown in.
I know that this book is disturbing. It's kinda meant to be. It raises issues about right and wrong and civilized behavior in a way that I felt bothered me as a thinking adult. Sheltering kids to a point is a good thing. But part of preparing them for the real world is getting them to think about these issues when they've matured a bit. Heck, the third volume in this series even challenges one's views on capitolism vs. Communism in a stealthy way that's more thought provoking than anything I ever read in college.
Hey, I loved the books. I think maybe it's all in the level of gore were used to. They're loads of fun, for say 15 and up, just my opinion.As to whether or not they're gory. We'll have to agree to disagree. The only difference between the book and a horror movie are that they are words and not an image on a screen. I mean, some of the scenes I read are completely violent, such as the (view spoiler) or how about when the (view spoiler). Plus, (view spoiler). I could go on... Like how about what happened to Britney.
Don't get me wrong, there's definitely the added pain and anguish that all these violent deaths cause, and Sam struggles with his decisions the whole time because of it, but the level of violence/gore is still there.
As to the sex, yeah, they're relatively chaste. Sam and Astrid (view spoiler).
Thank you Stephen and Wendy! I am pretty relaxed about violence and real world issues (poverty, government, etc.) We are the type of family that has real world and political discussions alot. My kids often watch documentaries with us. My issue really centers around avoiding sexualizing my kids before they are ready. Sex is a normal part of life and I want my kids to approach it in a healthy and normal way, when they are ready -- and I feel like I have a good pulse point on them right now. My daughter is not there yet for sex at all, despite the fact that she is 12. Maybe next year, maybe not. I will have to see where she is. A discussion about having sex in a book she is reading is beyond her maturity right now, she isn't ready for it. Which is fine, because as it is right now, she reads about 2 books a week in addition to her school work, piano, saxophone and sports. I made the same decision as to the book Unwind, if it weren't for the scene (view spoiler) I would have allowed her to read it. But (view spoiler). The books she is reading are mostly dystopia anyway or address issues of poverty and racism, or are fantasy. Just the stuff she is in to. So I think she has a good exposure right now.Thanks so much everyone! I am definitely putting down Gone as a future book that I can read along with her. I look forward to it. :)
Wendy F wrote: "Hey, I loved the (Gone) books. I think maybe it's all in the level of gore were used to. ..."That's the truth. I guess its a question of perception and how our imagination functions. The gore CAN be very graphic if imagined by someone who dwells on it. I guess that I tended to gloss over that and think about the bigger issues presented. Plus all of what you mention happens in the second book in the series. Which I'll grant IS definately more gory than the first.
The 2nd book was more Gory then the first, you're so right. I liked the deeper issues too. I love how it plays with different types of societies and how they want to build it, like the subtle discussions on capitalism and socialism.
I also really like how Grant is showing what all this pressure is doing to Sam and and anyone who takes the mantle of leadership.
Regardless it's one of the better series I read because no matter how long it's been since I read it I can't help but get pulled back into discussions about it. I'm really excited for Fear.
Regina, I'll be really curious to see what you think of it. The characters aren't all black and white (with a few exceptions), they all do crappy things and they all do heroic things. I'm honestly not sure where I think you'll come down on this one.
Hmm, I am going to see if my library has it in ebook. I have been kicking around the idea of reading it for awhile.
Martina ♥ Bookaholic wrote: "I stared with
and it's my first audio book. Thougth I should give it a try and its kind of funny."Percy Jackson is so awesome! I hope you like it, it is a favorite of mine. I can't wait until my kids are a little older and I can read it with them :)
Regina wrote: "Hmm, I am going to see if my library has it in ebook. I have been kicking around the idea of reading it for awhile."I have been wondering if anyone would like to have a group to discuss the issues raised in Gone in a semi adult setting. There is a GONE group but it's very juvenile.
Have finished reading
and
, which were pretty awesome - especially the latter :DAm now in the middle of
, though it may get abandoned in favour of
, which I just bought in a fit of glee (how is it out already? I thought it wasn't released until the 6th!)
I didn't enjoy Gone. Thought the characters were undeveloped and the violence was gratuitous at times. Violence doesn't bother me (give me a war movie over a chick flick any day) but I like it to serve a bigger purpose other than to try to one-up everything else out there.Not trying to argue, just wanted to give you a different opinion. I don't think it's inappropriate. I just didn't think it was particularly good...especially when the dystopian genre has so much better product to offer.
Clockwork Prince should be under embargo until the 6th.... whoever sold it could get into quite a bit of trouble! Let me guess..... Walmart?
Cassi aka Snow White wrote: "I didn't enjoy Gone. Thought the characters were undeveloped and the violence was gratuitous at times. Violence doesn't bother me (give me a war movie over a chick flick any day) but I like it to ..."I only read the first two books and tend to agree with you Cassi. After reading books like Chaos Walking which I loved I was not invested enough in the Gone series to continue.
Caryn wrote: "Kristina wrote: "just finished
"Oh my goodness, I loved this book! I loved the author's writing style, and the story was awesome...but I was hoping f..."
That's the next book on my list! Hmm. Maybe I'll wait until the sequel:)
Bethany wrote: "Percy Jackson is so awesome! I hope you like it, it is a favorite of mine. I can't wait until my kids are a little older and I can read it with them :) .."hey thanks bethany,
great to hear it. Hope it will have a little more action in it. But I like it and it sounds funny with the voice. So yeah, great series :)
Tamara wrote: "Clockwork Prince should be under embargo until the 6th.... whoever sold it could get into quite a bit of trouble! Let me guess..... Walmart?"Amazon, actually! It's the Kindle version. Strange...
I know I'm a bit late on the uptake but I just started with the Hunger Games books yesterday. Now reading the 2nd book in the series. It's in my ULTIMATE LEAGUE shelf.
Martina ♥ Bookaholic wrote: "Bethany wrote: "Percy Jackson is so awesome! I hope you like it, it is a favorite of mine. I can't wait until my kids are a little older and I can read it with them :) .."hey thanks bethany,
grea..."
There's more action the further you get into the series. It's a bit like Harry Potter, each book is a little more intense than the next. Not quite to the extent of HP, but then PJ is for a bit of a younger target audience. But, they're wonderful books. I'm sure you'll enjoy them:)
Thanks for the information, so I keep on tracking this series. :)But I've also heard that after this 5 book in which PJ is about 12 yrs old, that there is also a new series in which he's already about 16 and it is more YA and also with romance. Do you know what I mean? I don't know the name right now^^
Have you also read the new series?
Martina ♥ Bookaholic wrote: "Thanks for the information, so I keep on tracking this series. :)But I've also heard that after this 5 book in which PJ is about 12 yrs old, that there is also a new series in which he's already a..."
YES!!! The first book is
and the second one just came out,
They are awesome! A lot of PJ fans were really nervous about the spin off series thinking that it wouldn't live up to the expectations, but I absolutely loved the new series and I haven't read any negative reviews. Most people were really happy. It has new characters and Percy's really not even in the first book. But even so, it was still really, really good! Definitely read it after you finish the first series :)
Jennifer wrote: "Just wanted to say I love the Gone series. I am now reading
and
"I finished Eve about a week ago, and was underwhelmed. I was hoping for more. what did you think?
For the past week I have had a hankering to re-read
. Was very distracting during the last book I read.But having read it all before I keep wanting to get all sentimental and emotional way prematurely. (Like page 32 premature) Then again, work has been stressful this week so maybe it's that.
(Normally I don't read books before movies. But I wanted to re0read it entirely unrelated to the movie & it seemed silly not to)
Cassi aka Snow White wrote: "For the past week I have had a hankering to re-read
. Was very distracting during the last book I read.But having read it all before I keep wanting to get all..."
I want to reread it before the movie - I hope I get time to.
You'll have to let me know how soon you start to get all sentimental and foolish. Because it can't just be me! Hopefully...Katniss mentioned eating pokeweed on pg 50 something & I got so ridiculously excited because I really like fried poke. Also I like wild onions. Ate those all the time as kids (I had this thing for food you could find in the woods).
Ashley wrote: "I finished
last night, which I loved, and now I am starting
."I really liked Dearly, Departed. I completely fell in love with Bram :)
Cassi aka Snow White wrote: "You'll have to let me know how soon you start to get all sentimental and foolish. Because it can't just be me! Hopefully...Katniss mentioned eating pokeweed on pg 50 something & I got so ridicu..."
Did you ever eat any PawPaw fruit? There is a tree in the woods behind my parents house and I remember taking some to school for show and tell so everyone could try it.
I haven't had it but I know that it grows in the region. I saw one of the farmer markets talking about it on facebook but it wasn't the closest one. Is it good?
I am almost done with the audio of
and I am about 30% in to
I can tell this one is going to get 5 stars. I love it already. I took a train to meet my family on a weekend vacation (they left last night) and I almost missed my stop I was so in to the story. It is so different, I also did not realize before that it was YA.
Cassi aka Snow White wrote: "You'll have to let me know how soon you start to get all sentimental and foolish. Because it can't just be me! Hopefully...Katniss mentioned eating pokeweed on pg 50 something & I got so ridicu..."
Are you kidding me...haha, I don't even have to read the book. I just THINK about that series and seriously, I will get teary eyed. And if I think about (view spoiler)...I loose it.
Cassi aka Snow White wrote: "I haven't had it but I know that it grows in the region. I saw one of the farmer markets talking about it on facebook but it wasn't the closest one. Is it good?"
It's been forever but I'm pretty sure it tastes ok, lol. It's kind of like a banana in texture and such.
Jessica (BlogEared Books) wrote: "Brandi wrote: "I'm reading
and I'm not too impressed so far. :("That's on my TBR list- keep us updated and I'll move it down the list!"
Well I was really disappointed with Envy. :( I don't recommend it.
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