This is not The Haters Club You're Looking For discussion
I am really starting to hate our worthless gov't
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That makes no sense, but I've been drinking since 10 so maybe its me. I will read it again in the am.
I guess that's why I am the only one sick of our mismanaged government.
Let me clarify.The U.S. government subsidizes about $7 billion forcorn-based ethanol fuel which is mixed in with our gasoline.
This has failed to lower gas prices yet it expanded our deficit.
About $12 billion has gone to subsidize solar and some other non fossil fuel energy sources.
However, electricity has gone up.
Algea, on the otherhand, can be used as fuel and receives no federal subsidizes yet oil taken from it can be used as fuel.
Switchgrass is a weed that grows almost anywhere and it contains cellulose. Cellulose easily converts to ethanol. But switchgrass growers receive no federal subsidy for development.
I didn't know the technology on converting algea to fuel was that good yet. The shit grows amazingly fast, so I think it's high time the government starts pouring money into THAT, too. But last time I looked into it--more than a year ago--ten gallons of algea fuel were needed to equate one gallon of regular old fashioned gasoline. And, the corn in the corn-based ethanol is undoubtedly genetically modified. So, every time I huff gas, I'm taking in molecules that haven't been tested for health risks. I hate that.
Accoring to http://www.aquaticenergy.com/faq:The conversion rate of algal oil to fuel is almost 1:1 -- one gallon of algal oil to one gallon of fuel. A minute loss occurs during fuel production.
Some years ago i read a story on converting garbage to oil...garbage goes and in and gets shredded. Inorganics sink to the bottom, water gets filtered out, and anything organic cooks until you get something about the quality and consistency of heating oil. That was the plan, anyway...at the time i saw the article it was in use converting turkey guts at a -- Tyson? ADM? can't remember-- poultry packing plant. The problem the were having was when the garbage was of mixed types, instead of relatively homogeneous turkey guts.
Garbage to oil? That would be great. I guess some of us do not have to drive but I wonder how many have to heat their homes with oil at the currently sky high prices?
Or how many are aware how the price of oil effects grocery prices?
Or how many are aware how the price of oil effects grocery prices?I admit total ignorance.
I think that either effects or affects is applicable although affects is more appropriate.
Spot on. Which gets back to the ethanol question. The question of the true cost of petroleum is then raised. What is the true cost, taking only into consideration it's extraction, refinemnent and delivery to consumer, less any government interference?
Maybe we should invest in better public transportation and then we wouldnt have to worry about the cost of gas.The average european could give two craps about the cost of petrol.
I'd love to take the bus or the train to work but it isnt an option.
I'd probably have to take 5 different buses and it would, more than likely, turn my 30-45 minute commute into 2 hours. That's not an option.
Ew! I hate long commutes. An hour to an hour and a half every day! Do you listen to audiobooks?
It's all relative I guess. A lot of people in this area have it A LOT worse than that. But, I bet if more of them took public transportation my commute would be much better!No audio books...talk radio. Stern has kept me (relatively) sane for years.
I have an hour commute each way, and I listen to A LOT of books on tape. That's the only thing that saves me from boredom/sleep-induced fiery crash.
Harry wrote: "Paid $3.24 a gallon."Did the attendant actually bend you over when you paid?
Rusty wrote: "Did the attendant actually bend you over when you paid?"No, but that's the least they could have done for the amount of money I paid!
Rusty wrote: "Harry wrote: "Paid $3.24 a gallon."Did the attendant actually bend you over when you paid?"
What's an attendant? It's all pretty much automated here in the 21st century.*
*except New Jersey.
I always go to the gas station by the grocery store because I get money off using my Giant card. I think lots of grocery stores are doing that now and I appreciate it. It's pretty significant too, like 10-20cents a gallon off most of the time! I'm not sure how this all works but it makes me suspicious of gas prices in general.
Agreed! My dad says that it's shitty gas, but I have a shitty car, so I don't even care. I love when I can really rack up the rewards and get gas for under $2.00 a gallon.
What like I put in my phone number and then they flip a switch to send in the crap gas?
He is a weirdo and won't buy gas from grocery stores or Costco because he thinks it's of a lesser quality than one can find at a real gas station (but not Arco... he hates Arco).One of my earliest memories of my dad is him getting a little pocket notebook out of the glove box and tracking his gas mileage with every fill up.
He's crazy about gas or something, but he's super fun, so I'll let it slide.
Oh I get it now. But ours is just a regular Shell or something that happens to be in the same shopping center. It's not the grocery brand.
I never even glance at the gas prices or the total amount. Ever.
Montambeau wrote: "I never even glance at the gas prices or the total amount. Ever."Because it would make you cry a little bit or because there's no point in looking because you have to pay it anyway?
I hate that my "cooking dinner" time on the east coast is your "after lunch sick of work chatty" time on the west coast.
smetchie wrote: "Rusty wrote: "Harry wrote: "Paid $3.24 a gallon."Did the attendant actually bend you over when you paid?"
What's an attendant? It's all pretty much automated here in the 21st century.*
*..."
Automated, huh? What, you got robots that pump your gas out that way? I suppose your cobbler and and blacksmith are androids too, right? What a gas!
BunWat wrote: "You are mistaken.Under most circumstances affect is a verb and effect is a noun. The price of oil affects(v.) grocery prices. This effect(n.) can be seen in the recent increase in the price o..."
I agree with you BunWat. I remember how President Carter's plan on using alternative energy scared OPEC into lower oil prices.
The higher the gas goes the less likely we are to drive. The problem is that India and China copied our economy and are using a lot of the world's oil in doing so.
But how can ordinary people afford to pay that high a price? It is not only driving but also home heating.
The high prices will not hurt the wealthy. They can afford electric cars and geo thermal heating. The poor suffer the most and the middle class are left struggling.
Jeebus, what a pathetic thread. There was mentioned made of "bending over". Yer all bending over. How's teh view?
Not Bill wrote: "Jeebus, what a pathetic thread. There was mentioned made of "bending over". Yer all bending over. How's teh view?"Yer mom seems to enjoy it.
Smetchie - my mom has tanned my hide enough times to where she's probably not all that joyous over it. Now, am I allowd to talk about your mom, or is that crossing some kind of "Smetchie don't go there" line? Seems there's something of an "in crowd" these days. Fine. Keeps it real for the rest of us. BunWat... you say something?
Our government grants money to ethanol producers yet oil keeps rising. It grants money to solar and windmills yet electricity keeps rising.
Am I stupid or does this have to stop? I read about the fuel potential of switchgrass and algea. I also read about the safety of nuclear plants and read that we are the Saudi Arabia of coal. At least coal can be explained away by nonsense global warming claims. But both of which can supply powerplants and lesson electricity costs.
Why not switch and give these options a chance?