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message 651: by Amy (last edited Jun 07, 2011 11:55PM) (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments Rebekka, do you think that none of us has ever been depressed before? That none of us knows what it actually feels like?

Wake up.

I don't get how using "Depressed" can be considered slander in any way, (unless this is one of those cases where you're over-idenitifying to get attention.) It's like, when you joke about someone dying. "I have too much homework. Please shoot me." or, "This test is going to kill me," or "Acacia hasn't posted in five minutes. Is she dead?" You're not making light of actual suicide or death, because that's all Very Serious Stuff. It's just a phrase people use.

Also, depressed can mean sad. It's not limited to the actual medical state of depression. Just like I can call Juliet insane, without having a psychologist declare her officially insane. Both terms are correct. (Especially when it comes to Juliet.)

Calm down.


message 652: by Elliott (last edited Jun 08, 2011 12:02AM) (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
I tried to commit suicide a couple months ago. I don't know if you'd consider that depressed or not, but in my book it's pretty close to being depressed. Sorry if it's not, but in my book anyone who's considered that has something seriously messed up in their mind.

You're sort of really ticking me off.


message 653: by Amy (last edited Jun 08, 2011 12:07AM) (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments You know nothing about my life, Bekkey. let's just clear that up now, okay? :)

What's your view and what's your statistics? We're not denying that depression is a problem, we're saying that we can use the term without you flipping out.

Dictionary.com defines depressed as
1. sad and gloomy; dejected; downcast.

2. pressed down, or situated lower than the general surface.

3. lowered in force, amount, etc.



So by the dictionary, saying that a video is depressing or what have you is an acceptable use of the Englsih language.


message 654: by Elliott (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
Amy wrote: "You know nothing about my life. let's just clear that up now, okay? :)

What's your view and what's your statistics? We're not denying that depression is a problem, we're saying that we can use t..."


I like you. USING THE DICTIONARY TO WIN ARGUMENTS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. We should be friends.


message 655: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments :D DICTIONARY POWER

and with that I venture to slumberland, for my mind is weary and my awakening will occur in six hours.


message 656: by Amy (last edited Jun 08, 2011 12:14AM) (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments I'm not seeing your point. So, you can't use the word "depressed" if you haven't actually been depressed?

The same way you can't say your homework is killing you if you've never died, or how you can't joke about the world ending if you're not Buffy? (:P Juliet)


message 657: by Elliott (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
Well I just think it's sort of jerkish to say that about people you don't even know all that well. Besides, you can be depressed without having clinical depression. There are types of depression that only last for weeks or days and that happens to A LOT of people. It's not just being sad either. And to some people being sad feels like being depressed to them, and I really hate the "I hurt more than you so I win and you have no right to complain about your life" game. That game is really stupid. It people on here want to claim that they're depressed, why the heck do you care? It's not hurting you if they want to say they're depressed. It really isn't even any of your business. At all. So what if someone... lost their iPod and now thinks they're depressed? WHO CARES? Yeah, maybe someone just lost both of their parents but sadness is all relative. People's emotions are their own, and nobody else can decide them for them.


message 658: by [deleted user] (new)

Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Amy wrote: "I'm not seeing your point. So, you can't use the word "depressed" if you haven't actually been depressed?

The same way you can't say your homework is killing you if you've never died..."


But they're not using it in the medical context. The word can have more than one meaning. Can you stop giving everyone such a hard time about it? It's not being uses in an offensive way.


message 659: by Elliott (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
... I apologize for getting worked up. *feels a tiny bit bad*


message 660: by Elliott (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Lav [cheating gets it faster] wrote: "... I apologize for getting worked up. *feels a tiny bit bad*"
To me? I have nothing against anyone here. I have the strange and wonderful ability to fight ..."


I have the strange and wonderful ability to hold grudges, but then I remembered that I liked you and generally thought you were cool and I'm trying not to shove friends away and whatnot, so I figured I should say sorry. *nod*


message 661: by [deleted user] (new)

Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Cara [loves bears more than people] wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Amy wrote: "I'm not seeing your point. So, you can't use the word "depressed" if you haven't actually been depressed?

The s..."


I don't think think they were referring to it medically though. I think most of them were using it to describe when they feel very, very down.


message 662: by Elliott (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Lav [cheating gets it faster] wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Lav [cheating gets it faster] wrote: "... I apologize for getting worked up. *feels a tiny bit bad*"
To me? I have nothing against..."


You should like me. *nods* Just ignore the random urges I have sometimes to stab people and we should be good.


message 663: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments *please don't get worked up over this joke. just for laughs*

Hey, guys, want to see my scars?

So, I got this one from skating and falling down. I got this one from the cat. This one was when my best friend Becky bit me on the thigh. She's highly carnivorous. I got this one from falling down on the pavement...when aliens were trying to capture me.


OH NO! They're coming back. And what? They've brought a medical dictionary because we all carry those around. Holy Jumping Turtles!


-Picture


message 664: by [deleted user] (new)

Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Amy wrote: "Rebekka, do you think that none of us has ever been depressed before? That none of us knows what it actually feels like?

Wake up.

I don't get how using "Depressed" can be consid..."


I don't want to start things up again. I just want to make the point that plenty of people on here have been seriously depressed. I have a group where people can complain about their problems, and a large number of them show tons of symptoms of depression. I'm one of them. After ten months, eight different anti-depressants, three therapists, and a treatment center, though I'm finally getting over it.


message 665: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Picture wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "It's pissing me off that you people are using "depressed" as a synonym for "sad". Depression is a mental health disorder and I'd really appreciate if you guys would trea..."

Ahh, I love you Picture. You rock. :D


message 666: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Umm, yeah. Most of you probably HAVEN'T been depressed in your lives yet. You can argue and say you have been, but that's not going to change my view, which is also backed up by statistics."

Umm, that's pretty much ... well ... bullshit. We're all teenagers here. We've all lived long enough that just about everyone here has probably lost someone or had something horrible happen to them. The way you're talking, it's like you think you're the only one who has ever been depressed and knows what depression is. Maybe you don't mean for it to sound that way, but right now you're just making yourself look ignorant and self-centered.


message 667: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Yeah, if you try to kill yourself to end everything, yes, you're depressed."

Being suicidal is NOT the same thing as being depressed. Yes, depression can lead to suicidal thoughts, but depression does not necessarily lead to suicidal tendencies. Depression can also be a feeling of utter helplessness/hopelessness or of impending doom. Someone may not be chronically depressed, but many people go through depression at difficult times in their lives.


message 668: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "No I never said that. I'm just saying that if we're talking about depression as in "medical", please use the word "depression" in the medical context. "

But no one was talking about it in the medical sense, which is why this debate is rather pointless...


message 669: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Maxy wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Amy wrote: "Rebekka, do you think that none of us has ever been depressed before? That none of us knows what it actually feels like?

Wake up.

I don't get how using "D..."


Awww *hugs* I love you, Maxy dear. <3


message 670: by Mandy (new)

Mandy  Harmon (mandyharmon) | 10724 comments GIVE HUGS, NOT DRUGS. *hugs everyone*


message 671: by Mandy (new)

Mandy  Harmon (mandyharmon) | 10724 comments Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Mandy [remember yes is yes and no is no] wrote: "GIVE HUGS, NOT DRUGS. *hugs everyone*"
But why get a hug when you can get high?

(totallyagainstdrugabusedonthurtme)"


*facepalm* I was just trying to lighten the mood, dear.


message 672: by Mandy (new)

Mandy  Harmon (mandyharmon) | 10724 comments Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Mandy [remember yes is yes and no is no] wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Mandy [remember yes is yes and no is no] wrote: "GIVE HUGS, NOT DRUGS. *hugs everyone*"
But why get a hug when you can g..."


No, it's deadan humor, which is funny in itself, but that joke wasn't the best played, in all honesty. =P


message 673: by Mandy (new)

Mandy  Harmon (mandyharmon) | 10724 comments Holden wrote: "37 looooong comments...do I have to read all of them? Can I have a summary? ;-)"
Yes, yes you do.


message 674: by Baxter, butts butts butts (new)

Baxter (julietrocksmysocks) | 2455 comments Mod
Holden wrote: "37 looooong comments...do I have to read all of them? Can I have a summary? ;-)"

Dude, I thought the exact same.


message 675: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Summary, uh ...

Rebekka was like "it pisses me off that everyone uses 'depressed' as a synonym for 'sad' because depression is a medical condition and blah blah blah"

and everyone else was like "HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF NOT KNOWING WHAT DEPRESSION IS. PLUS BY DICTIONARY DEFINITION IT IS NOT STRICTLY A MEDICAL TERM. BLAH BLAH BLAH."

That's about it.


message 676: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments ^^
Arguing at midnight is fun.


message 677: by Isaac (new)

Isaac | 8014 comments Lav [cheating gets it faster] wrote: "I tried to commit suicide a couple months ago. I don't know if you'd consider that depressed or not, but in my book it's pretty close to being depressed. Sorry if it's not, but in my book anyone wh..."

Lav. =(


message 678: by Baxter, butts butts butts (new)

Baxter (julietrocksmysocks) | 2455 comments Mod
♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Summary, uh ...

Rebekka was like "it pisses me off that everyone uses 'depressed' as a synonym for 'sad' because depression is a medical condition and blah blah blah"

and everyone else was like ..."


I find this horribly inaccurate. I never said blah.


message 679: by tesni (new)

tesni (akhmatova) | 5031 comments Baxter wrote: "♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Summary, uh ...

Rebekka was like "it pisses me off that everyone uses 'depressed' as a synonym for 'sad' because depression is a medical condition and blah blah blah"

and ever..."


Truefax.


message 680: by Elliott (new)

Elliott | 22634 comments Mod
♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Summary, uh ...

Rebekka was like "it pisses me off that everyone uses 'depressed' as a synonym for 'sad' because depression is a medical condition and blah blah blah"

and everyone else was like ..."


... it sounds so silly when you put it that way. BUT WASN'T IT FUN GUYS? I found it really enjoyable. I got legitimately mad, which hasn't happened to me in a long time, and it made me happy. xD


message 681: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments ♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Picture wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "It's pissing me off that you people are using "depressed" as a synonym for "sad". Depression is a mental health disorder and I'd really appreciate if yo..."

It's what I do. *bows* It was getting very serious around here.


message 682: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
Yeah. Getting angry is fun. We should think up an equally fiery debate topic.


message 683: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments XD

Today during lunch there was an evolution vs creationism debate. They had the bio teacher on the side of creationism and the religion teacher on the side of evolution. It was hilarious.

/random.

Er...
CAVEMEN VS ASTRONAUTS.


message 684: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
That's really strange.
Cavemen vs. Astronauts? Hmmm. I dunno. Cavemen are pretty sexy.


message 685: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments itmayormaynotbeanargumentbetweenAngelandSpikethatIwasjustwatching...

If they were in a fight, cavemen would win. For the record.


message 686: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments Let us debate about English.

Do you believe in the Oxford Comma? Zoinks...O_O_O

IT'S A THREE-EYED MONSTER!


message 687: by Annemarie, hi (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 3393 comments Mod
Amy wrote: "itmayormaynotbeanargumentbetweenAngelandSpikethatIwasjustwatching...

If they were in a fight, cavemen would win. For the record."


I think an astronaut would outwit a cavemen and be pretty strong.

But, I really don't care because I'm a pacifist and fighting is stupid.


message 688: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments That's the point, Juliet :P

Um.... Pirates v Ninjas? ;)


message 689: by Annemarie, hi (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 3393 comments Mod
Picture wrote: "Let us debate about English.

Do you believe in the Oxford Comma? Zoinks...O_O_O

IT'S A THREE-EYED MONSTER!"


I LOVE the Oxford comma.


That reminds me of that song "Who gives a consensual sex about an Oxford comma?"


message 690: by Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. (new)

Brigid ✩ | 11973 comments Mod
I love Oxford commas! <3


message 691: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments You know what's sad. That vampire weekend song was the one that introduced me to the "Oxford Comma." I mean I've always used it, but I never realized it was kind of optional. Blah. I love them though. I hate how Spanish doesn't have them.


message 692: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments Okay.

Feeling stupid now.

An Oxford comma is?


message 693: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments Amy wrote: "Okay.

Feeling stupid now.

An Oxford comma is?"


Wikipedia, girl.


message 694: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments The serial comma (also known as the Oxford comma or Harvard comma, and sometimes referred to as the series comma) is the comma used immediately before a coordinating conjunction (usually and or or, and sometimes nor) preceding the final item in a list of three or more items. For example, a list of three countries can be punctuated as either "Portugal, Spain, and France" (with the serial comma) or as "Portugal, Spain and France" (without the serial comma).[1][2][3] (Wikipedia)


message 695: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 1017 comments Picture wrote: "Amy wrote: "Okay.

Feeling stupid now.

An Oxford comma is?"

Wikipedia, girl."


LMGTFY :P


message 696: by Baxter, butts butts butts (new)

Baxter (julietrocksmysocks) | 2455 comments Mod
Oxford commas are lame.


message 697: by Annemarie, hi (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 3393 comments Mod
Baxter wrote: "Oxford commas are lame."

YOUR FACE IS LAME.


message 698: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments Amy wrote: "Picture wrote: "Amy wrote: "Okay.

Feeling stupid now.

An Oxford comma is?"

Wikipedia, girl."

LMGTFY :P"


*awkward silence*

I googled what that stood for. *cough* There appears to be something in my throat. *silence*


message 699: by Annemarie, hi (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 3393 comments Mod
Picture wrote: "Amy wrote: "Picture wrote: "Amy wrote: "Okay.

Feeling stupid now.

An Oxford comma is?"

Wikipedia, girl."

LMGTFY :P"

*awkward silence*

I googled what that stood for. *cough* There appears t..."


It's better than the link Acacia gave me when I asked.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy


message 700: by Picture (new)

Picture  Perfect (picturesperfect) | 312 comments Baxter wrote: "Oxford commas are lame."

Not necessarily. Say if someone had a grocery list of things.

Ex: I need to get eggs, bacon, tomatoes, human eyeballs, pig omelets, monkey brains, spider lasagna, juice and carrots.

---In this case, you kind of need to have the Oxford Comma in between juice and "and." Otherwise, you wouldn't know whether "Juice and Carrots" were meant to be together like that.

---It's for all the dumb people to understand to sum it up. But I like it all the same.


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