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soon - but not right now because i just gave up, so this is perhaps only a placeholder - i hope she will help me understand Samuel R. Delaney. because he makes my mind hurt.


Which book did you try, Mark?
Delaney is speaking near here on Friday. A whole day symposium put on by the queer studies department at the university of maryland. Some of my friends are going but I can't.

in the past i've read and enjoyed Dhalgren (took a while to read that one; a frustrating but ultimately satisfying experience) and Triton.
i didn't even know that Delaney was still alive, let alone speaking at symposiums!

When I buy groceries this week, I'm going to ask for extra paper bags. Your idea sounds like a good way to keep the weeds down without contaminating the soil, as long as I leave room for water to get to the roots of my plants. Thanks.

Unless you re-channel from making plastic crap into... something more beneficial to the race/planet for the long-term.

not that i believe in that. i see the idea of society as much like almost anything else: perhaps physically evolving due to basic evolutionary needs, but in general exhibiting varying degrees of repeated or cyclical behavior patterns.
i agree that in a modern capitalist society, the concept of "work ethic" is in many ways hollow, particulary within work that is based around producing commodities and luxuries. but i think the concept remains vital in other sorts of societies.


Inordinately sad.


1. Do something beneficial.
2. Be a lazy slacker and do nothing.
3. Build more plastic crap.
Then I vote for either one or two but not three.
Anyway, not my point. My point is, with the continuing rise in the efficiency of mechanization and computerization we will soon be able to build all the plastic crap anyone could conceive of without any need for anybody to lift a finger at all. So what are all those hard working salt of the earth types going to do with themselves then? Just mill around in circles?
Got to start thinking of something else for people to do with their time, I say. Hard work as a virtue in and of itself may be nearing the end of its usefulness."
Yes! Americans since the Puritans have made a very silly virtue of work and have let this idea take over our society. Just look at the average vacation time available to workers in the US vs. Europe!
We need to re-evaluate, and imo, simplify. I don't need more toys made in China, I don't need more food than I can eat, I don't need a 40,000 square foot house!
Now, if only I had some concrete ideas about how to change society...

The answer you would hear from many (though not from me): "Go live in a commune, you hippie."

I do agree that things are moving to a more mechanized society, however, most Americans can begin to provide for themselves in ways in which have become lost.
Plant a garden, bake bread from scratch, teach kids to sew and repurpose materials instead of buying anew, eat dinner together around the table, take an interest in what your kids are doing, teach kids to fix things again instead of just replacing them. Hard work does not have to be present just in the work place. Take the value of hard work and apply it inwardly towards the family, the earth and our fellow man.
I think if we all start to do this than the demand for the cheap, superfolous chinese crap will greatly diminish.
This change comes from a value of "work ethic" just explained and performed a little differently.

So, can you?

My grocery always has a huge pile of cucumbers for pickling for sale. Maybe the sign says "pickling cucumbers," I can't remember. Of course they are dill pickle-sized. Given that not that many people are doing their own pickling these days, what am I supposed to do with these? Eat them just like a cucumber?
Books mentioned in this topic
The Einstein Intersection (other topics)Hogg (other topics)
Dhalgren (other topics)
Triton (other topics)
What is your advice on this?