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Emma
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Dec 23, 2010 01:39AM
Or we could all just live our lives the best we can and then take it when it comes. Plus we don't know which religion is the "right" religion.
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There is no "right" religion. Hey we should have a topic of budhism. That should be interesting
Exactly. No one knows what'll happen when we die, so therefor no one knows which religion or non-religion is true or not true.
Yeah but shouldt athiests believe that when you die you just end because if you don't believe in god you can believe an afterlife or something
Yes. Being and atheist is not believing in a God or any Gods. So yes, they would believe that.
that's not our image of paradise...and regardless of relegion Emma, most beleive u go to hell or heaven. so mightaswell be good. Oh enjoy, you're told to do that, but pray too. be a good person, etc etc
nd regardless of relegion Emma, most beleive u go to hell or heaven.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_re...
Yet a lot of people believe something else. And anyway, which to believe?
so mightaswell be good.
Religion is not needed for a person to know that they should be good.
Oh enjoy, you're told to do that, but pray too. be a good person, etc etc
We can agree on enjoy and be a good person. But I really don't think people should pray if they don't believe in their hearts that there is a God.
Well, if you don't beleive there's no God, then what would be the point of being good? When you don't have the fear for punishment in your heart, you can go to any resort and not be afraid that you'll get what you earned..you=universal
Well, if you don't beleive there's no God, then what would be the point of being good? Are you saying that all atheists are bad?
When you don't have the fear for punishment in your heart, you can go to any resort and not be afraid that you'll get what you earned..
People have morals. It's one of the things that makes us people and not animals.
No, Em, I don't mean that. I mean, it would easier for me to get away with doing something wrong if I didn't beleive I'd be punished for it..And Lindsay, paradise and hell are not places that we can see or find yet... it is the unknown. That is the purpose of relegion. If God created you once then He can create you again when you have died and you heart and mind has stopped working. Ofcourse, if you don't beleive in God, then that's a different issue. But then, you wouldn't blv in hell and heven eiher if there was no God for you, right?
As I said before, does anyone really give a fuck? A lot of people gives a great deal of fuck. Which, for me, is one of the main problems about religion. Spend your whole life preparing for you death? No thank you. I'd rather spend my life spending my life.
Well some people believe this isn't even the real life. The real real life comes after you die.
And "some people" might be right. "Some people" might also be wrong. We don't know, that's the point. We don't know so why put so much energy into thinking about it?
Because it's what people believe, they're not thinking about it. They're not gonna change their faith.
Because it's what people believe, they're not thinking about it. They're not gonna change their faith.Ruby I have told NO ONE to change their faith. I am mainly talking about why I personally have problems with religion.
I'm not saying you did!I'll just stop speaking.
Sorry :) I'm a bit stressed, so I get kinda touchy. Speaking fo stressed, I better go wrap some more gifts.ARGH! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!
No, Lindsay. We will be created again the way we are now. When God did it once, why would it be hard to do it again?
Amina wrote: "Well, if you don't beleive there's no God, then what would be the point of being good? When you don't have the fear for punishment in your heart, you can go to any resort and not be afraid that you..."The point is to be good because you want to and it's what you feel is right. Not because you feel that if you aren't that you will go to hell. It is a better way of living, based off your true feelings.
reincarnation in ur own form. Like the way you are now. We beleive we'll be raised again from the mud, a middle age, in thirties about and then judged. in hell or in heaven.
This is what I believe:
1) The Premortal Life: Where we are before we are born. Where we and God decides the family you are going to be with in the mortal life on earth. We know right from wrong already, and are able to make perfect decisions, not that we needed to yet. Before we are born, we are just spirits. Just innocent, perfect spirits.
2) Birth: Nothing much to it, except for the fact we are brought into the world. We are innocent at first, having no intellectual knowledge whatsoever. We don't remember anything from the premortal life, or else life itself would have no point.
3) Mortal Life: It's where we are now. Living our lives, learning, making our own decisions, making mistakes, and making correct choices in life that make us successful and happy. It's a test to see if we can learn how and to overcome our challenges and learn from expiences. Whether we decide to do good or not is a choice we make and can affect our future in life and after death.
4) Death: Our mortal life ends, and our spirit/soul departs the body.
5) Spirit World: It's heaven, basically. Everyone's spirits remember their mortal life and what they have done clearly. A place for our spirits to wait until a certain point in time where the most hatred, evil, dishonesty, disobediance is going on in the world and God takes all of the evil people and casts them out to outer darkness, otherwise known as hell. All of the other stay.
6) Resurrection: We are all sent back to earth, still knowing what we have done in our mortal life.
7) Final judgement: God individually and automatically knows what everyone has done in their lives. And he sends each one to one of three kingdomes: The Telestial Kingdome. The lowest kingdome, and least righteous. The Terrestial Kingdome. The one somewhere in the middle. The Celestial Kingdome. The most righteous. You reside in them for the rest of eternity in peace.
1) The Premortal Life: Where we are before we are born. Where we and God decides the family you are going to be with in the mortal life on earth. We know right from wrong already, and are able to make perfect decisions, not that we needed to yet. Before we are born, we are just spirits. Just innocent, perfect spirits.
2) Birth: Nothing much to it, except for the fact we are brought into the world. We are innocent at first, having no intellectual knowledge whatsoever. We don't remember anything from the premortal life, or else life itself would have no point.
3) Mortal Life: It's where we are now. Living our lives, learning, making our own decisions, making mistakes, and making correct choices in life that make us successful and happy. It's a test to see if we can learn how and to overcome our challenges and learn from expiences. Whether we decide to do good or not is a choice we make and can affect our future in life and after death.
4) Death: Our mortal life ends, and our spirit/soul departs the body.
5) Spirit World: It's heaven, basically. Everyone's spirits remember their mortal life and what they have done clearly. A place for our spirits to wait until a certain point in time where the most hatred, evil, dishonesty, disobediance is going on in the world and God takes all of the evil people and casts them out to outer darkness, otherwise known as hell. All of the other stay.
6) Resurrection: We are all sent back to earth, still knowing what we have done in our mortal life.
7) Final judgement: God individually and automatically knows what everyone has done in their lives. And he sends each one to one of three kingdomes: The Telestial Kingdome. The lowest kingdome, and least righteous. The Terrestial Kingdome. The one somewhere in the middle. The Celestial Kingdome. The most righteous. You reside in them for the rest of eternity in peace.
it means that when the world ends (not in 2012...stil ages!) we will all be brought back to life and we'll all be the same age (in our 30's) and then judged according to our deeds (heaven or hell)
We're in our graves. We muslims call it barzaqh: a time in between the Day of Judgement and when you die.
Lindsay wrote: "I don't suppose it's any use in asking how you know all this, is it? You're just going to spit the teleological argument right back at me and I'll just grow tired of you and walk away."
It's just simply what it tells us in the scriptures.
It's just simply what it tells us in the scriptures.
Lindsay wrote: "It's just simply what it tells us in the scriptures.And you believe it automatically because of this? Without giving it a single thought or mental question?"
not everyone question everything you know
Lindsay wrote: "Amina wrote: "We're in our graves. We muslims call it barzaqh: a time in between the Day of Judgement and when you die."
What of our consciousness?"
what? We are conscious of what is happening..
Yeah, and I said we are conscious. jheez, read my post
Lindsay wrote: "It's just simply what it tells us in the scriptures.
And you believe it automatically because of this? Without giving it a single thought or mental question?"
Of course not. Not only are the scriptures telling us this, but also prophets who have been instructed by God. And I know that it's true, because I myself have prayed about it, and I know it's true. So have millions of others.
And you believe it automatically because of this? Without giving it a single thought or mental question?"
Of course not. Not only are the scriptures telling us this, but also prophets who have been instructed by God. And I know that it's true, because I myself have prayed about it, and I know it's true. So have millions of others.
Chuck Norris knows... haha :)
Lindsay wrote: "Amina wrote: "Yeah, and I said we are conscious. jheez, read my post"So we're conscious as we're lying in our grave? We know what's happening as we're being buried and we just lay there for chuc..."
Yeh and if you're a good person, you'll feel good and if your bad, then t is said that your grave is kind of like hell. Also, we are questioned in the grave.
Lindsay wrote: "Of course not. Not only are the scriptures telling us this, but also prophets who have been instructed by God. And I know that it's true, because I myself have prayed about it, and I know it's true..."
By praying, asking God himself, inspiration from him and knowledge from him enters you. Well, me. And... praying about what is really true gives me the knowledge of that.
Yes, true, prophets are in the scriptures, but we have one today as well. His name is Thomas S. Monson. I may not have spoken to him myself, but he has spoken to us.
By praying, asking God himself, inspiration from him and knowledge from him enters you. Well, me. And... praying about what is really true gives me the knowledge of that.
Yes, true, prophets are in the scriptures, but we have one today as well. His name is Thomas S. Monson. I may not have spoken to him myself, but he has spoken to us.
So you get your knowledge from the little voices inside your head? Interesting.
It's not voices... more like feeling. You can feel something in you, and you if its right. It's just like any other feeling. Guilt, love, hate, confusion...
Oh boy, this should be interesting. Can you post an article written by him or something? I'd like to see this guy for myself.
Uhh, how many articles do you want? Every first Sunday of April and first Sunday of October we hold a general conference, and each time he speaks to us, along with his other 84 companions. Not all of them speak each time, obviously.
It's not voices... more like feeling. You can feel something in you, and you if its right. It's just like any other feeling. Guilt, love, hate, confusion...
Oh boy, this should be interesting. Can you post an article written by him or something? I'd like to see this guy for myself.
Uhh, how many articles do you want? Every first Sunday of April and first Sunday of October we hold a general conference, and each time he speaks to us, along with his other 84 companions. Not all of them speak each time, obviously.
Like I said, teleological argument...
I can debate and argue with people like you all day long if I want, but when it comes right down to it, they're just going to spit the teleological argument at me and expect me accept it.
You don't have to accept it if you don't want to. Can I just ask you this out of curiosity... have you ever prayed before?
Who is "we"? What group of people are you referring to?
By "we" I meant "they" as in Thomas S. Monson and all prior prophets. But "we" as the members of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints (a.k.a. LDS or Mormon church) either attend the meeting in Salt Lake City, watch the conference from television, listen to it through satellite, read it from the internet, or read it from the Ensign magazine.
I can debate and argue with people like you all day long if I want, but when it comes right down to it, they're just going to spit the teleological argument at me and expect me accept it.
You don't have to accept it if you don't want to. Can I just ask you this out of curiosity... have you ever prayed before?
Who is "we"? What group of people are you referring to?
By "we" I meant "they" as in Thomas S. Monson and all prior prophets. But "we" as the members of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints (a.k.a. LDS or Mormon church) either attend the meeting in Salt Lake City, watch the conference from television, listen to it through satellite, read it from the internet, or read it from the Ensign magazine.
Have I ever prayed before? HA! You're talking to a girl who spent the first 12 years of her life in bible school and the last three in catechism.
Hm. Just wondering. And never have you prayed to see if those things that you were learning about were true?
Sheesh, I've never heard of the guy. I haven't been keeping up in church affairs lately, I suppose.
I would guess this means you've never heard of Gorden B. Hinkley, either then.
Hm. Just wondering. And never have you prayed to see if those things that you were learning about were true?
Sheesh, I've never heard of the guy. I haven't been keeping up in church affairs lately, I suppose.
I would guess this means you've never heard of Gorden B. Hinkley, either then.
