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What happens when you die?
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Amina
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Nov 12, 2010 06:58AM
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A Vida é Bela (Stray) wrote: "I believe that when I die, I'll go to the grave and little bugs will eat me and I will rot and decompose and be nothing but a dead smelly brown corpse (too graphic?) OR my family will burn me and I..."Aren't you a cheery little fellow? ;)
I believe that my soul will be released from the prison of my body and will then embark on the true final frontier...what lies beyond this vale of tears. I hope it is heaven...but I'm open to other adventures.
Probably nothing. But I hope that something cool happens... But alas.... That's probably wishful thinking.
I have no idea what happens when I die... I try not to dwell on it and I just kinda think, what happens happens.However, I do not believe in Heaven or Hell necessarily, and I don't really agree with the idea of Heaven and Hell.
Why not? Don't you think we'll be rewarded or punished for whatever we did in this small life of ours? That wouldn't be justificable then.
Whoever said it' fair? Things rarely are.
Because I don't believe that our life is important enough to decided if we are going to be eternally rewarded or damned. People are greedy, selfish, stupid, and make mistakes. It's just life.Also, I don't agree with it because I don't agree with the fact that if someone doesn't believe something, they are automatically going to hell. To put it bluntly, I think it's just stupid. I'm sorry, but that is just so ridiculous to me. That people are actually put in hell, in hell, just because they don't believe in god. I would like to think that whatever happens to us when we die, is a little bit less... biased.
it's not exactly biased. if people really cared then they would seek to find the truth, a religion that they wre content with.
Exactly, Barca. Just living life like it's ur own damn thing, is ridiculous. It's a gift from God. I mean, you didn't just appear out of nowhere.And once you start beeliving in God, u'll blv that He does justice. A good person adn a bad person won't both get the same result. That doesn't even happen in this big, bad world.
...♥Barca.G (razia) wrote: "it's not exactly biased. if people really cared then they would seek to find the truth, a religion that they wre content with."I find the truth throught scientific means, not things that don't really have sufficent proof, at least not in my mind. And I'm content with having no religion. I'm still happy and loving life, even if I'm not religious.
Amina wrote: "Exactly, Barca. Just living life like it's ur own damn thing, is ridiculous. It's a gift from God. I mean, you didn't just appear out of nowhere.And once you start beeliving in God, u'll blv th..."
I know I didn't appear out of thin air, my mother gave birth to me. Why is it so ridiculous to life life like it's our own? It is? You have the power to control your own life and make your own decisions.
And for the good person, bad person justice thing, it's not right in any way that people who don't believe in god, are considered bad people and sent to hell.
It is, because instead appreciating the gift God has given you by at least acknowledging He exists, you say your mother gave birth to you, that there is no God. How would you feel if you gave someone you loved a gift and when sumone asked that kid if 'Rowan' had given the gift to him/her, they'd be like 'Rowan doesn't exist'?You cam frum ur mum. What about her, the one beofre, before, be4, be4, be4.... where did Adam cum from? Apes. Err, no. I already answered why I don't think so in the evolution sector.
And you say you don't accept something until you have 'proof'. The world around us is proof. It can't just happen, as I've said be4.
Well honestly, I don't think I would care because I technically wouldn't exist in the first place. I don't believe god has given me a gift because I don't believe god is real. All the people before my mother came from their mothers and so on. I don't believe in Adam and Eve and that whole thing about the rib bone or whatever that was (I don't really know that story). I think evolution is where people came from.
And you are completely right, the world around us didn't just happen. The Big Bang theory and evolution explains it all. The idea that god created the world and people is ridiculuos to me, to think that god had all that power to do it, while there are scientific ideas that actually make sense.
No the scientific ideas have yet to be fully proved.
While they may not have complete proof, the make sense, and make especially more sense that god being the reason for everything.Ugh, that sounds kinda mean but I'm not trying to sound like that.
Well I think that a creator for a creation makes more sense.
Obviously neither of us is going to give in since this debate is based around our beliefs, and I respect yours :) But, despite everything you are saying, nothing is going to make me change my mind, and I'm sure its the same way with you :)
@ Rowan
would u believe me if i said that the other day i was at a dock and a ship sailed in by itself, put the anchor down by itself, unpacked all the cargo by itself, loaded itself again by itself and then sailed off with no crew or captain?
well in the same way, how can something as big as the universe just create itself? how were the comets, etc there in the first place?
soemone had to control all of that in the same way that a captain had to control the ship.
and if there was nothing before, then what exploded and made the big bang?
and scientifically it is wrong due to the conservation of angular momentum rule...long story.
p.s im not trying to convert u...and sorry bout the long post!
would u believe me if i said that the other day i was at a dock and a ship sailed in by itself, put the anchor down by itself, unpacked all the cargo by itself, loaded itself again by itself and then sailed off with no crew or captain?
well in the same way, how can something as big as the universe just create itself? how were the comets, etc there in the first place?
soemone had to control all of that in the same way that a captain had to control the ship.
and if there was nothing before, then what exploded and made the big bang?
and scientifically it is wrong due to the conservation of angular momentum rule...long story.
p.s im not trying to convert u...and sorry bout the long post!
i believe that when you die you'll stay dead...nothing happens after that...you'll be forgotten and then nothing...the only way is not to die...*LOL* that's still not possible...
...♥Barca.G (razia) wrote: "@ Rowanwould u believe me if i said that the other day i was at a dock and a ship sailed in by itself, put the anchor down by itself, unpacked all the cargo by itself, loaded itself again by itse..."
Yeah, but what was before God though? That's the same thing. God couldn't just have come out of nowhere.
We only use about 3/4 % of our mind power. God has said that some things you won't undertsnad... like how can we live forever in the afterlife? Ever, ever, ever... where does it end. Our mind is too limited to understand.We have proof God exists... we don't have the capacbility to undertsand how He always existed. But God has promised we'd undertsand in the afterlife.
There is a proof that God exists? Since when? I would like to see this. :PActually we use a lot more than 75% of our mind power, its more like 100% of our brain at any given time.
I've heard it... sumthing from Einstein topic, but I remember clearly that the humna brain is only used about 2-3 % or a low number like dat.
Nope. That's just a popular myth. We use much of our brain. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/1...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/art...
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Yeah, well the human mind cannot undertsand how 'God has existed forever and ever'. That's what we are told :)
Err, yeah. You might not find this logical.. but so don't I about ur supposed theorie of space existing forever and ever.
What? Who said those were my theories? I love how you just assume something about me.
By 'your' I meant the people who beleive in the Big bang Theory.
Yeah, well. I don't really believe in anything. Sounds fine to me.
Fine then if you don't beleive in anything.
Well, as far a religion and how the universe works goes.
So rather than having an actual logical explaination as to where god came from, you just say our minds can't understand? That seems like cheating haha :) maybe our minds just can't understand how there were things before the Big Bang too...
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I don't really know what happens after I die, and I've decided to not care. I do this because every time I think about dying my mind gets overwhelmed about the thought of not thinking but not even being able to know I'm not thinking and not even being in blackness but just not being there at all so I can't take in ANYTHING.... Yeah, you might get the point. I get so stressed by the thought I kind of just try to forget about it.
Yeah, Rowan. Just like for you space existed forever, we beleiev God lived forever. But I think that beleiving in God existing forever is more sensical since this world couldn't have happened with just a bang of a particle... that's what I think anyway. For you it can be the opposite.
Yeah Amina, it is the opposite for me. But that is just because in my mind, the idea of god creating everything, or even really god in general, isn't logical...
For me it is... as I explained before why's that so.
God isn't logical. This dosen't mean that he does not exist, because I do believe he does. But logic and relegion don't really go together. Mathematics are logical, believes are not. Dosen't mean they're not true, that what they say is not true, that God is not true. It just means it is not logical.
That is why they call it a "leap" of faith. To believe in something you cannot empiracally prove. However, my dad said every time he doubted the existance of god, he looked at the wonder of a tree.
..... I'm sure that'll convince people that God exist. Them : "I don't believe in God"
Believer: "Dude, how can you not? I mean, look at that tree!!"
Heehee. But no harm intended, I just felt like posting those lines :) Anyway, why did your father look at trees to verify his believes?
Because it's just one of the many things that God has created for us... something that couldn't just happen out of nothing. Just like the big bang... poof! Out of nothing. This is why I think God's existence is "logic" because a creation needs a creator.
No Amina. God is a divine force. Divine forces are not logical. EVen if we do believe in them. And the tree could've come from a particle, just like everything else. And as for you belief that there has to be a creator: God is supposed to be the most wonderful, amazing force of good. Who created him? You say "something so beautiful" couldn't just "happen with a BANG". So how did God just happen?
God didn't happen, He was always there. That doesn't sound logical, but then not everything has to be logical, now does it?
God isn't logical. This dosen't mean that he does not exist, because I do believe he does. But logic and relegion don't really go together. Mathematics are logical, believes are not. Dosen't mean they're not true, that what they say is not true, that God is not true. It just means it is not logical.
