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Veronica, I really enjoyed the first few books in th..."
I think I gave up in the middle of the third one.


Veronica, I really enjoyed the first few..."
You gave up rather quickly because the series kept getting better. Explosive Eighteen is funny, I will admit the book before it bombed. I am annoyed of the love triangle which every cozy mystery series seems to have these days.

I note The Ruins made The Worst Books of All Time list.

I bought Dead Simple on Sunday. I'm looking forward to starting it now. Neat that you got to meet him.







That's how I felt about The Ruins. I kept thinking, "Okay, okay - NOW! Maybe not. NOW! Okay. Now?"


Now I'm reading


I loved The Ruins. Thought it was as good as A Simple Plan.

Just for laughs, let's look at the worst book ever list and see why The Ruins rated so 'high'. I'm kind of afraid to look at the list because certainly there will be some of my favorites listed. If I find any of them, there will be blood.


Michael Connelly is the Harry Bosch guy, isn't he. Also has a main character that's a newspaper reporter. I read a couple of those and liked everything I read.


Michael Connelly is the Harry Bosch guy, isn't he. Also has a main character that's a newspaper reporter. I read a couple..."
Harry Bosch is a great character. The newspaper guy is Jack McEvoy and he is another great character long with Mickey Haller but Harry Bosch is the best of the three.




Thanks for the info! I get to be a "series addict" at times. I get attached to characters.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Lucy is the reason I stopped reading Robert Crais altogether (and I was a huge fan of the early books)! She's insufferable and totally ruins the Elvis Cole experience!
Brian January


Just for laughs, let's..."
Maybe so, but it was a hell of a lot of fun getting there! And (view spoiler)

Lol, I love Elvis Cole and Joe Pike, and also do not like Lucy either. I just feel with her personality and lifestyle that she does not fit with Elvis at all...She just seems quite the snob and very snooty to me. The series is fantastic but could only improve if Lucy is ditched altogether...Strangely enough I really liked his interaction with Carol Starkey in


Lucy seems relatively normal to me. But maybe I just work with too many attorneys!
I like Carol. I don't care that she smokes. That comes from her days as a bomb detonator. Have you read her book. What was it - Two Second Warning or some such title. I really liked it.




Carol's book was Demolition Angel. I remember that's the only book Crais has written that I struggled through. Strangely enough I didn't much like the character of Carol until Elvis "met" her. I do like the two of them together.
I liked Lucy in the beginning but as often happens in crime fiction novels, the woman starts whining about the dangers of the job. Elvis' work didn't seem to bother Lucy when she needed his help, but when she didn't he was suddenly too dangerous to be around. Female characters in crime fiction novels are often written like this, and it always annoys me. I like the idea of Elvis and Carol together, but I'm not sure if that's where Crais is heading.

You may be right about Lucy getting more whiney as time goes by.
I don't know that Elvis can ever think of Carol as anything but a friend. So Carol is doomed.


on the general chat forum for this group, a member posted this review: http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
As a reader who has tried The Alienist several times and then lost interest without knowing why, the review was revealing.

As a reader who has tried The Alienist several times and then lost interest without knowing why, the review was revealing."
Thanks for the link to the review. After reading it, I am now more aware of why others may deem it not worth reading, but I am already enjoying it, and I'm not all that far into it. I hope I don't lose interest, because I find it really, really hard to stop reading a book, even if I am hating it... a habit I dearly wish I could break. Too many good books out there to waste time on finishing the ones I don't care for.



Michael Connelly is the Harry Bosch guy, isn't he. Also has a main character that's a newspaper reporter. I r..."
Just finished The Drop and was very pleased, except that now who knows how long it will be before we get another...

As a reader who has tried The Alienist several times and then lost ..."
I am exactly the same way! I wish I could stop too for the same reason, but I can't. The best I can do is stop for a while, read a different book & then continue. I only stopped reading 1 book that I remember, & that was Dean Koontz's


As a reader who has tried The Alienist several times and ..."
I hated Wicked and don't think I got past page 75.


Now I'm reading


Jan, do you mean Gregory Maguire's book? I didn't like it either, although I really like the musical. I finished it, but it was a struggle. Not sure why I bothered!

Jan, do you mean Gregory Maguire's book? I didn't like it either, although I really like the musical. I finished ..."
I didn't see the musical (it was in town forever ... a very long time anyway) because I hated the book so much.

My daughter made me go and see the musical with her in New York. At the time I'd heard of neither it nor the book. I'm very glad I saw the musical first!

Ah! Thank you! I no longer feel like a lesser being for not enjoying that book. I think you got further than I did.

Diane wrote: "Am now reading The Boy in the Suitcase ..."
That looks really creepy Diane. Is it terribly gruesome?
That looks really creepy Diane. Is it terribly gruesome?

Add me to the list of people who had issues with Wicked...
I really need to try Val McDermid, I think. I can hear my to-read list growing on my kindle...
Hayes wrote: "Diane wrote: "Am now reading The Boy in the Suitcase ..."
That looks really creepy Diane. Is it terribly gruesome?"
Hi Hayes, I'm reading this too and so far not too terribly gruesome. It's not a spoiler to say that the boy survived his trip in the suitcase as the story is more about who put him there and why.
That looks really creepy Diane. Is it terribly gruesome?"
Hi Hayes, I'm reading this too and so far not too terribly gruesome. It's not a spoiler to say that the boy survived his trip in the suitcase as the story is more about who put him there and why.
Donna wrote: "Hi Hayes, I'm reading this too and so far not too terribly gruesome. It's not a spoiler to say that the boy survived his trip in the suitcase as the story is more about who put him there and why."
Whew! ;-)
Ok... onto TBR it goes!
Whew! ;-)
Ok... onto TBR it goes!

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Veronica, I really enjoyed the first few books in the series, but after a while they got to be the same thing over and over again and therefore a lot less funny. However, you've got quite a lot of laughs ahead of you before boredom is likely to set in!