dont u think twilight has spoilt the image of vampires?

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

LMAO

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

what? I meant what kind of message would you want? grrr. my typing skillz r nonexistant! ((which is y I use notbooks! XD)

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

LMAO ur english is as good as mine...ummmmmmmmmmm "to vi my randomness friend, who have way too many comments on GR for my taste" LMAO that?

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao u mean h\of whom I am always trying to beat comment wise? lmfao

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

lol YES that too

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao okasies! though I'll probably just make it up as i go! XD

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

LMAO then can i sit next to u while u sign ur other fans book?

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao if you'Re there"! lmfao

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

LMAO i will be for that!!! ooo and a shoppin trip afterwards...yea now i really need the lottery lol

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao well, if I get popular then forget the lottery!! XD

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

YAY *arms up in the air*

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao HUG!!!!tickle.

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

LMAO why u ticklin me for?

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

b/c it's fun! XD

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

roll eyes

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

what, you wouldn't tickle me if ya could?

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

ummm lol i'll get u when ur not expectin it!

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

okie thats it im deleting all ur off topic comments

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

if u want to chatter do it in the chatroomz

[Auroralumi]

OK what about the girl being the main vamp! I mean what was the last time we heard of that?? lol Underworld? lol! or am i wrong??? I want a badass B*t*h that hates humans! but this fine ass human (or another type of supernatural)comes in her life and she can not help to be tempted BUT she has bigger fish to fry so throughout the thing she keeps bumping into him bc his ass is always in danger and he wants to know more about her. of course this story better have alot of action and the romance of it is not the biggest part of it :D

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

lol OMG you are so totally right! lol i was watchin van helsing last night...the vamps in there is what i was tryin to say they should be like...everyone fear them (almost) and they are all bats and skin and ugly lol

have anyone read ???? the main girls in here KICK ass!!!!! the story could be writen better though

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

Yeah Auroralumi i hear ya, I think thats the way I might swing my novel then. Have a kick ass vamp chick and have the novel action packed with the romance not being so central.

[Auroralumi]

Awesome! I'm here to help :p I know thats a book I would read! I think thats one of the reasons why I heart Rose from VA :D

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

haha YEH Im currently doing a novel about a girl vamp LOL sleepless Beauty BUT she's not so much kickass like Rose (more traditional from victorian era who adapts to the modern 21st century girl LOL dont how its gona turn out, but I just left the first half on my page awhile ago! and I'm sketchy about finishing it, bc it might turn out like a sappy dud haha!

I wish I was Rose haha!

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

make her kick ass tiny LMAO

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

haha! I'll try LMAO

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

lol yay

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

LOL

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

do u have a ditsy charater tiny?

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

Auroralumi wrote: "OK what about the girl being the main vamp! I mean what was the last time we heard of that?? lol Underworld? lol! or am i wrong??? I want a badass B*t*h that hates humans! but this fine ass human (..."

actually, for main vasmp=female, theres also HON and sorttta Vampire Academy and a couple otherz.

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

hon?

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

House of Night is HON.

I have the first 6 remember? I told u about them - that the main girl is a bit of a slut.

Yeah and there are quite a few more series out there with strong female vampire leads

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

OOOO yea yea i like the gay guy

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥ wrote: "do u have a ditsy charater tiny?"

Yeah well anything I write is ditsy LMAO its from my ditsy brain LOL I make up for the ditsy characters anyway LOL

I want a kick ass lead, but I have yet to learn more about writing LOL I think I lack structure and I procrastinate much...

ITs always better to read a female lead when she doesnt so much rely on the guy LOL it gets sickening after a while...

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

hahahaha gotta agree there! then I guess in that case it would be Kim Harrisons witch cronicles if you want a headstrong felame main...although she'S a witch...but friend is a vamp...the other is a pixie..GO JENKS!!! XD

[Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥]

lol right on the mark there tiny! i think ur ditsy-ness will make a fine edition....i will definately get a book...and u soooo need to sign it LMAO

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

☆♥TiNy♥☆dA☆SuCcUbuS☆cOunTeSs wrote: "Werewolf☆Vi☆Iran♥ wrote: "do u have a ditsy charater tiny?"

Yeah well anything I write is ditsy LMAO its from my ditsy brain LOL I make up for the ditsy characters anyway LOL

I want a kick as..."

YAY!!! to procrastination!! well not yay, but its nice to know im not alone lol. im trying to break the habit this trimester by getting all my assignments in ahead of time

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmoa aggree with stace! yayz to it but it sucks ass! XP

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

haha! YAYYYY!!! We all agree on something LOL now thats a bit scary LOL because I don't that has happened LOL

Thanks VI!! I'll practise my signature so I can give it to you in perfection

*signs signature here*

there when I'm famous you can sell it haha! nah LOL

YES i'm afraid I'll never get my novel done to see it flourish because of me being a procrastinating whore LOL BUT I have hope!

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

LMFAO!!!! OMFG i just read ur comment and this is how i read it:

"YES i'm afraid I'll never get my novel done to see it flourish because of me being a whore LOL BUT I have hope!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i completely missed out procrastinating. hahaha wow that was hilarious i just about had a heart attack because i thought u said u were a whore.

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

hahahaha! okay fine I'll be both! LMFAO

NOW it sounds like we both on drugs haha!

I meant procrastinating-whore!!! NOT whore!!


kkjdkfhakhdvdabf LOL

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

LMAO!!!and we call ourselves smart...i think XD

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

LMFAO Tiny! Im sorry, its just how i read it hahahaha. Man i seriously panicked for a second lmao.

But i got it now! Tiny is a PROCRASTINATNG-whore, not a normal whore lmao

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

LMFAO!!! yup! thats me lmfao!!!! NOT a normal whore I repeat NOT a normal whore hahaha!

*knocks star with a soft-toy hammer* LOL

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao....hammer session is a pretty good show...

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

I love your take on it. Very insightful, observant and intuitive. And congratulations on achieving a great feat with your series. 16 years is a long time to develope your writing but I bet it was all worth it. I would very much like to read your series.

[Auroralumi]

*Claps for Rebakah* I totally agree with your description of Meyer’s work (The point where you say the writing is poor but it is for children) and the loss of the true vampire outlook. So really the novels are suppose to be cute. It completely missed the “Anne Rice” type of Vampires and I think this is why so many look down at it. Not only this series of novels but in others too. I personally think she made a different world for others that always thought that vampires were vulgar or scary. If anything she was able to grab the interest of some (and I mean some) vampire lovers and lure closed minded ppl to the thought of vampires too. I’m differently not trying to say her work is great but like you said a money maker. She has never written before (clearly you can tell lol) and if her intentions were to make money than I have to say she did it. The adverting and fan base on this series is ridiculous.

Also I will be checking out your website and see what you have written. From just reading your comment I have a feeling that I will like your personality.

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

LOL Rebekah, I totally agree with you on Bella. There is NO girl in the world that would turn down a diamond ring and an Audi.

And about your earlier comments concerning YA vampire novels I feel I must point out that although you are right in saying they are moneymakers and that publishing houses exploit mediocre authours, they serve their purpose well. That purpose being to get young people into reading. I don't know if you have noticed, but since the release of books like Twilight and Vampire Academy and other YA vampire books, children and young teens have flocked to bookstores to check out the latest books in the genre. They may seem inept and nearly unreadable to older readers such as ourselves because we've been introduced to a broader variety, but for younger people this is the stepping stone into that world of beautifully written pieces of work that go beyond the simplistic deluded ideas that cloud YA novels.
Without this stepping stone many readers today probably would not be interested in looking for in depth, better articulated novels.
So, rather than diluting the standards of reading for future generations, I'd say that these books are helping teach young readers. Through ya books they build their vocabulary, are introduced to concepts that are within their realm of understanding, and everything slowly builds from there.
After all, we have to learn to walk before we can run, right?

[Tiny, Currently revamping]

LOL I love this comment you wrote Rebekah 'there is something super creepy about that Bella chick. She has the emotional range of a 4 year old and is about as interesting as lawn furniture' hahaa! I couldn't stop laughing because its true and I agree 100% LOL

[Starzee, Group under serious construction!]

No, you are not out of touch. I understand where you're coming from but I personally don't see it as regressing. I see it as taking a different route to get to the same outcome. After all, reading is about preference. Each person is unique in their likes and dislikes, and also differ when it comes to individual reading ability and understanding of new concepts introduced in novels. While some may prefer Anne Rice, Tolken and Sylvia to start them off, others may prefer to approach the situation differently. And if we were to force young readers to start off at a certain, set standard of reading material, it might actually have the reverse effect of what is trying to be achieved, which is to build people up so they are able to read and enjoy in depth novels that people deem to be beautifully crafted. To start someone off with a novel way over their head is to take away their joy of reading, because instead of reading with understanding, they will be struggling to identify and relate to ideas in the book.

And yes, I was reading those types of novels a couple of years ago in high school as well. But it is nice once every now and then to sit down to one of these YA books and simply enjoy the story, however simple it might be.

((Loving this debate by the way. Your ideas are very interesting))