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message 1101: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Peep (don't worry, we aren't) wrote: "Man you guys are committed to this movie! I don't even care and yet I care, I can't help it. Your enthusiasm is contagious, folks!"

Damn straight. Beats talking about Breaking Dawn.


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments When they cast Jennifer Lawrence & I watched her clips from Winter Bone it gave me much hope. And once I had hope I was excited.

And it's so fun to be excited about a movie and to be experiencing fandom. It's feeling the Harry Potter shaped void somewhat.


message 1103: by Jessie Leigh (new)

Jessie Leigh (msjessie) Cassi (Is out of glitter *sadness*) wrote: "When they cast Jennifer Lawrence & I watched her clips from Winter Bone it gave me much hope. And once I had hope I was excited.

And it's so fun to be excited about a movie and to be experiencing..."


Yes. Exactly. Also, see Percy Jackson books, re: filling Harry Potter void.


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments Well it's not so much the book void, as the fandom void. I just remember all the excitement, anticipation, midnight parties. When people are just now reading Harry Potter I'm glad but I'm also sad, because they missed so much of the experience.

Hunger Games, while not on the level of HP, still has some fandom excitement thats enjoyable.


message 1105: by Anna (new)

Anna | 7 comments Wow, she looks amazing! Can't wait!

The Harry Potter void is a big one to fill indeed, and I reckon no book/series truly will, but The Hunger Games series is doing a great job at the moment! Reading the books really got me back to that feeling of wanting to stay up to 4AM to finish them, which I haven't had since Deathly Hallows.


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments I just read a little bit of an interview where she talked about her fave scenes and MY GOODNESS SHE GETS IT!!!!!!

I told Gary, ‘I totally understand if you don’t hire me, but please remember that after Katniss shoots a bow and kills someone her face cannot be badass. It has to be broken.’ She has to be heartbroken because she just took another person’s life. It’s so tempting, especially with a cool, big budget franchise movie, but we have to remember that she’s a 16-year-old girl who’s being forced to do this. These kids are only killing each other because if they don’t, they’ll die. It’s needless, pointless, unjustified violence. So there’s nothing cool about her. It’s not like she looks around the arena and goes ‘Yeah, I got this, I’m going to do this.’ I think she looks around terrified and thinks, ‘Well there are all the million different ways that I can die.’”

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/05/19...


message 1108: by Tracy (last edited May 19, 2011 05:19PM) (new)

Tracy | 14 comments Stacia ~ candy girl wrote: "Here you go Tracy. It's a fan made, since there's no movie stuff out yet. I saw this in another group.

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Wow! Those are really eye-poppingly good pics. I sure hope that they look like that in the movie. That's very close to how I pictured them.


message 1109: by Jessie Leigh (new)

Jessie Leigh (msjessie) Cassi (Is out of glitter *sadness*) wrote: "I just read a little bit of an interview where she talked about her fave scenes and MY GOODNESS SHE GETS IT!!!!!!

I told Gary, ‘I totally understand if you don’t hire me, but please remember tha..."



I read that too! Jennifer Lawrence is laying my fears to rest, with the picture and the accompanying article. I think she'll do wonderfully.


message 1110: by Kurukka (last edited May 24, 2011 09:06AM) (new)

Kurukka So, Lenny Kravitz will play Cinna.

I've never been that disappointed with a casting choice. u.u'


message 1111: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Cécilia wrote: "So, Lenny Kravitz will play Cinna.

I've never been that disappointed with a casting choice. u.u'"


WTF?? That is not at all who I pictured!


message 1112: by Becca (new)

Becca | 1608 comments My verdict is out on that casting. I won't know until I see him in the role, but I'm incredibly surprised.


message 1113: by Heidi (new)

Heidi I guess he was good in Precious. He is just not at all what I pictured. Oh well, no one really has been what I pictured but I am giving them a chance so I guess I will do the same here.


message 1114: by Jaimie (new)

Jaimie (jaimier) | 1275 comments I haven't seen Lenny act but I think the casting might actually be a good thing - he kind of has a feminine streak in him and I am crossing my fingers that he can act. :) I would have never thought of him but I am not upset with it.


message 1115: by Jo (new)

Jo (jowillwrite) | 26 comments I'm surprised but I honestly think he'll do a great job. I always read Cinna as someone who is understated and observant but also kind of strangely attractive and oozes sexual ambiguity.(definite sexual tension between him and Katniss, no? Just me then! Haha)
The only problem I had with him is that I think he may be a little old. I had him at around early thirties... but Kravitz is 46.
How old did everyone else place Cinna?

I'm excited to see what he does with the role... worst case scenario, Lenny Kravitz sure could pull off gold eyeliner!


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments I'm not bothered by it but apparently I am hard to bother.

When they kept delaying the Cinna casting announcement I worried his role would be cut down (or in my worst nightmares cut out). The fact they've casted Lenny Kriavitz makes me think that they're keeping Cinna as a large part to justify using such a big name.

I never saw Precious and I'm not bothered by looks. He is older than I pictured Cinna but hollywood 40s is often like everyone elses mid-twenties or we're lucky enough to be remotely good looking.


message 1117: by Becca (new)

Becca | 1608 comments I thought Cinna was mid to late twenties, at the most early thirties in the book. I'm not bothered by Kravitz's age. Makeup can do amazing things these days. And I felt there was a little sexual tension bordering on a not-quite brother/sister relationship between Katniss and Cinna, so no Jo, it isn't just you. I actually had a secret hope that Cinna would break up the triangle, but sadly it never went that direction.


message 1118: by Katy (new)

Katy Becca - you were not alone in your secret hope for Katniss and Cinna! I remember reading and thinking, oh that could be an interesting move but sadly it was not to be.
I think Kravitz is going to be amazing as Cinna, I never really get hung up on the age thing. I said the same thing when Lawrence was cast, I want a strong actor who may look a little older as opposed to an actor who looks the age but can't act.


message 1119: by Anna (new)

Anna | 7 comments I reckon Lenny might do a good job. I have never been too much of a fan of his music, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the film, haha. I saw him in Precious and he did quite a good job, I'll be excited to see if he pulls of Cinna! (Which he better because I love Cinna to bits and ruining his character would ruin a lot)


message 1120: by Becca (new)

Becca | 1608 comments Cinna's death absolutely broke my heart. For being a secondary character, he was my favorite of the whole she-bang, and I know a few people who feel the same - shout out to Brittany who is currently surrounded by text books instead of novels.


message 1121: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) I loved Cinna too, and I just kept hoping and hoping that he wasn't actually dead.

I found out this morning about Kravitz, and while he's not at all what I pictured I also think that he's an excellent choice in terms of aura and personality ambiance. I was really excited. For me personally, I get more and more excited with each casting selection.


message 1122: by Stacia (the 2010 club) (last edited May 24, 2011 02:37PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) I didn't like Precious at all. His acting neither impressed nor turned me off. I'm very neutral about his acting ability. He almost seems too cut to be Cinna, who I pictured as slight of frame.

This choice bothers me because of the possible interpretation of sexual tension between Katniss and Cinna in the books. I too had my moments where I dared to hope for a Katniss/Cinna pairing.

There's no way a man in his 40's will end up having any scenes with sexual tension with a 16 year old girl. I always assumed Cinna to be in his late 20's and the line to be sort of blurry. Was he gay? Bi? Straight but Metrosexual? Who knows...but the bond that he had with Katniss went beyond just a simple friend. He was in a way her confidant, a man who understood things about her that no one else did.

The age thing bothers me the most. The race isn't as big of an issue I guess, even though the looks aren't how I imagined at all.


message 1123: by Peep (Pop! Pop!) (new)

Peep (Pop! Pop!) Hmmmm, interesting. I'm not as invested as most people, but so far I am happy with the casting. My only hope is that they don't pull a Percy Jackson on us. I'm glad to see black people being cast, even though Lenny K is an odd pick.

Has anyone seen the 5th Element. I forgot his name but Chris Tucker played a quirky character. Maybe LK can pull it off?

I didn't get any tension between Katniss and Cinna, I got more of a besties/take her under my fabulous wing feeling. But that's just me.


message 1124: by Jaimie (new)

Jaimie (jaimier) | 1275 comments I don't know where exactly in the books I got it but I pictured Cinna with darker skin and on the gay side of bi - if that makes any sense?


message 1125: by Jessie Leigh (new)

Jessie Leigh (msjessie) Becca wrote: "Cinna's death absolutely broke my heart. For being a secondary character, he was my favorite of the whole she-bang, and I know a few people who feel the same - shout out to Brittany who is currentl..."

ditto this for me! RIP Cinna. I was more saddened to lose him than Prim.


message 1126: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) I always say her as having maybe the hint of a crush, but the feelings coming from Cinna were always brotherly, take-under-wing feelings.

And I never pictured Cinna as black, but I there's just something about the Persona that I think Kravitz fits, and I personally find him incredibly attractive, in that Reggae rock Star way. I think he'll hit it.


message 1127: by Heidi (new)

Heidi I never got a flirty vibe with Katniss and Cinna either (except the way gay guys and straight gals kind of flirt playfully).


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments Heidi (don't listen to me) wrote: "I never got a flirty vibe with Katniss and Cinna either (except the way gay guys and straight gals kind of flirt playfully)."

Ditto. I always kinda thought Cinna was either gay or bi. I leaned towards gay. Don't know why. Not just because of the stereotype but just because I dunno.


message 1129: by Jessie Leigh (new)

Jessie Leigh (msjessie) Cassi (is secretly listening to Heidi SHHH) wrote: "Heidi (don't listen to me) wrote: "I never got a flirty vibe with Katniss and Cinna either (except the way gay guys and straight gals kind of flirt playfully)."

Ditto. I always kinda thought Cinn..."


I always pictured him having a 'thing' with Portia!


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments Really?

Honestly I kind of like the fact that we're clueless about his sexuality.


message 1131: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) I definitely like that it was never stated, but I also got the impression that he was bi.


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments Gwendy (Wendy F) wrote: "I definitely like that it was never stated, but I also got the impression that he was bi."

Part of me wants to look at the text to figure out why we all got that impression.


message 1133: by Kurukka (last edited May 24, 2011 07:26PM) (new)

Kurukka Woah, I never wondered anything about his sexual orientations or sexual vibe with Katniss. xD What I love about their relationship is just that they are very open to one another and caring in a sort of distant way (it's not like they could go to the movies together). They understand each other without speaking most of the time and I kind of pictured him as a father figure rather than a potential mate.

Peep, about the casting of black people. I fully agree on the principle. But there aren't just white and black people on earth, and I don't think there are just white and black people in Panem either. If they really wanted to play the multicultural card, they could also haven chosen an asian guy or a latino. Black people aren't the only ones who suffered discrimination and such, and should not be the only ones we think about when we hear "multicultural".

And Kravitz is such a big name...
But I guess Lionsgate needs publicity, ah, it's Hollywood after all.


message 1134: by Peep (Pop! Pop!) (new)

Peep (Pop! Pop!) Cécilia wrote: "Peep, about the casting of black people. I fully agree on the principle. But there aren't just white and black people on earth, and I don't think there are just white and black people in Panem either. If they really wanted to play the multicultural card, they could also haven chosen an asian guy or a latino. Black people aren't the only ones who suffered discrimination and such, and should not be the only ones we think about when we hear "multicultural"."

Ummm, where is all that coming from?


message 1135: by Julie (new)

Julie I also thought Cinna was gay/bi...I didn't really find any sexual tension between him and Katniss but there was definitely some flirting (if I remember correctly).


message 1136: by Jo (new)

Jo (jowillwrite) | 26 comments When I said that there was sexual tension between Cinna and Katniss, I think it was just wishful thinking that they would get together because, come on... between Peeta and Gale (as much as I love them both), a life with Cinna would be a lot funner, safer, more fabulous and would include more sparkly things.

And, of course, he wouldn't have died. *sniff*


message 1137: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) There wasn't any sexual vibe between Katniss and Cinna either. It wasn't a vibe I got between Cinna and anyone. It was a vibe that I got JUST from Cinna... Just... I suppose my own character meter. Just like when Rowling stated taht Dumbledore was 'Gay', I wasn't surprised. Yet, there wasn't anything specific between him and anyone. It was just a way he handled himself. I guess it's hard to explain.

As far as the multicultural thing, there are plenty of different cultures shown in the tributes. So I think they have it covered.


message 1138: by Kurukka (new)

Kurukka Peep (Pop! Pop!) wrote: "Cécilia wrote: "Peep, about the casting of black people. I fully agree on the principle. But there aren't just white and black people on earth, and I don't think there are just white and black peop..."

Mmh, I expressed myself badly. I still don't know how to explain actually *frustrated* but, my point is, the movie isn't as multicultural as they'd like it to be, in my opinion. The tributes, we're gonna see them one minute or two. People won't focus on them, and maybe even barely notice them.


message 1139: by Tommie (new)

Tommie (tommiemarie) Cécilia wrote: "Cinna's supposed to be attractive, indeed. The thing is I didn't imagine him black and am not attracted to black guys at all so this came as a shock (not that I didn't expect it). My loss. He also ..."

I definitely pictured Cinna as black. I believe there's a point in the book where Katniss is describing Cinna and she mentions his dark skin. I'll see if I can find it.


message 1140: by Jaimie (new)

Jaimie (jaimier) | 1275 comments Tommie wrote: "Cécilia wrote: "Cinna's supposed to be attractive, indeed. The thing is I didn't imagine him black and am not attracted to black guys at all so this came as a shock (not that I didn't expect it). M..."

Please do because I feel like I am going a bit crazy over here remembering something that didn't exsist. :)


message 1141: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) I remember that the description of him was as dark, but I suppose I imagined him more like Barrons... like Pict.


Cassi aka Snow White Haggard | 2261 comments I thought of his as hispanic/italian type dark. But really I cannot remember his description much at all so I have no clue.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) I still don't know what Pict is, Wendy.


message 1144: by Gwennie (last edited May 27, 2011 12:17PM) (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) Hahaha, sorry.

It's like, really dark skin but the hair is black and not curled, more silky...

Think of it similar to the Dothraki in Game of Thrones.


message 1145: by Jaimie (new)

Jaimie (jaimier) | 1275 comments Donald Sutherland is President Snow - great choice I think!


message 1146: by Caryn (new)

Caryn (carynreads) Wow, I wasn't expecting such big names for this movie!


message 1147: by Jeanine (last edited May 31, 2011 12:17PM) (new)

Jeanine (truejourney) | 120 comments Caryn wrote: "Wow, I wasn't expecting such big names for this movie!"

Really? I wouldn't expect anything less. I mean, everything about the Hunger Games is awesome and unique. I seriously cannot wait for the movie!!! I don't think it will be a dissapointment like the Twilight series.


message 1148: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) I was SO excited to hear about Donald Sutherland! It's a great pick for Snow.

I'm getting so excited! IT still seems so far away!


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) He'll do.


message 1150: by Jeanine (new)

Jeanine (truejourney) | 120 comments Cécilia wrote: "They need to shave her terrible unibrow, though. Sorry, but I had to say it. XD

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Actually, they should leave it. Only because in the Hunger Games, Katniss is even supposed to be hairy. Who has time for shaving when your starving to death and worried about whether or not you are going to be picked to go into the arena???


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