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The Hunger Games by Suzzane Collins
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Shanan
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Apr 12, 2011 12:47PM
I agree that banning or challenging something just makes it more tempting to read or watch or whatever (depending on what it is)
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Recently a local school district junior high teacher put The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time on a suggested reading list. One parent not only had a fit about it, she was photographed in the local paper for an entire article about how reprehesible the book is and how the teacher should be FIRED for suggesting it...did parents ever consider that while that book may not be appropriate for their child it might be fine for someone elses? And that maybe the answer is just suggesting your child read something different that maybe is more on their level? Additionally, books with "controversial" themes are an excellent opportunity to discuss difficult topics with your kid.
Geez. What is so bad about Curious Incident? If anything it should teach you tolerance for others who are different from you.
I'm halfway through Curious Incident on audiobook so NO SPOILERS.I think Jill hit the nail on the head. Parents seem to think their choices for their child should be EVERYBODY'S choice. But that's just not right because every child is different. We have freedom of speech and religion for a reason.
PS it cracks me up that The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian gets banned. Honestly the main reason I can think of is masturbation but seriously what's the fuss? (And this is from someone on the more conservative spectrum). That book teaches so much about the Native American experience, diversity....its just chock full of VALUE and people get upset because something their son is going to do anyways? Just because it makes you squirm doesn't take away from the value of the book.
(There maybe something else but that's all I remember off the top of my head).
So I have a story somewhat related to this that I just thought of.In high school I had a friend who's mom was like super southern-Baptist during "Harry Potter is EVIL" phase that Christian-folks went through. She actually read them when she spent the night at a friends house because her mom wanted to keep her away from all things fairy, folklore and magic.
When we were a couple years older and the movies were coming out her mother decided to FINALLY read Harry Potter so she could see what all the evil was about (all the better to face it you know).
HER MOTHER LOVED HARRY POTTER! Seriously, went to the movies and everything. They bought us HP themed grad gifts. It's hilarious how much her mom preached against HP until she read it.
Catie wrote: "I do think that it's funny that they've picked Harry Potter to be the symbol of all witchcraft-y evil, when it actually has a pretty strong Christian-friendly message. Alas."I know!!! People are ridiculous. I had to argue the anti-HP factions all through high school. Found it rather offensive when someone came up to me and asked me "But I thought you were a Christian?" in regards to me reading Harry Potter.
Harry Potter became the scapegoat due to popularity. No one even noticed His Dark Materials (which came out originally at the same time) which was HEAVILY anti-Christian (and I liked it too, lol).
I totally agree with everyone on the subject of banned books. For me, I don't get why any book is banned or looked down upon. If you don't like it or think its inappropriate for your kids drop the book and step away from it and don't think about it geez.It is just like how some people can't stand to watch a war movie and see the violence that largely took place in a war and then think and complain that a war movie needs to be clean cut. That just drives me nuts because war is not clean you know.
Stacia *lollipopping like a mofo wrote: "Looks like Rue and Thresh have been cast?http://www.facebook.com/thehungergame..."
Hmm... lets get moving on to the other "big" names in the book people! I am dying to know who they cast.
...and Elizabeth Banks was cast as Effie.
I'm cool with all these casting announcements (though I'll still have daydreams of Kristen Chenowith as Effie).
Stacia *lollipopping like a mofo wrote: "...and Elizabeth Banks was cast as Effie."Oh! I guess that is ok. She is HIlarious on 30 Rock. I still liked Chenowith for that part though.
I like the choices for Rue and Thresh. Banks is not who I would have picked (I also had Chenowith in my head), but it could have been much worse. At least she's sort of kooky and might be able to pull it off.
And Marvel/Glimmer have been cast.I think the girl might have played Lily on All My Children a long time ago. If so, she played an autistic girl well, so her acting is not bad.
http://www.facebook.com/thehungergame...
Yes she was on All My Children. She was good on there.
Glimmer doesn't have too much to act though, she's pretty minor. So far I'm happy with all the selections.
I knew that girl looked so familiar and I realized she's also on CSI Miami if anyone watches that! It's a guilty pleasure show for me haha! I like her for Glimmer, and yeah she's pretty minor so no big deal if she sucks!Also - the casting for Prim is really good! She looks just like I imagined her
Prim - Willow Shields
She does look pretty good. Again, another decent casting for me.
They need to shave her terrible unibrow, though. Sorry, but I had to say it. XD
I'm so glad someone else said it Cecilia! I almost made a comment about the unibrow earlier but decided I would let someone else bring it up.What's the deal with the unibrow?
LOL Cassi!It's not to be mean, but it just shocked me when I opened a page with a big picture of Willow and her magnificient uni. She has it on every picture I found of her so I just hope they'll get rid of it on set.
Hey now, we shouldn't be talking about stuff like that. Self esteem ladies, self esteem! Girls growing up too fast these days as it is. Let kids be kids, quirks and all. We don't see that many young girls who actually look like it these days....and I officially sound old!
Yep. Old fart.Unibrows make me think of bearded ladies. Which is totally not Prim to me. But I don't think she should be chosen based on eyebrows. LIke hair color, that is correctable.
(Really I didn't know kids were that hairy)
Well my daughter has a slight one, lol. So maybe I'm biased. She won't be shaving it to impress other people though. Hahaha. Not so obvious, but I believe in building up self esteem in kids. You know, and kids being kids. Man, it's impossible to say anything without sounding like an old fart!Oh Cassi, kids can be hairy AND they fart. Double whammy.
Oh I know they fart. I work with kids and fart jokes can always make them smile.But the unibrow hair surprises me. So are you saying you think Prim should keep the brow? Just so I get this straight...
Well, I don't think that eyebrow plucking would be a huge thing where they live. So, I think she should keep it. Embrace it!Oh fart jokes. My kids: Pft. Ooops, I farted. (repeat 20x). No, it's not funny.
One of my friends just pointed out to me that they'll think everybody in Appalachia has unibrows. I am now terrified. They already think we don't wear shoes! I wear shoes! Unless it's pretty and I'm in the backyard. Because I do love the feel of grass between my toes....Okay weird comment over. Sorry.
Well, if there had been a mention of any unibrow for Prim, why not ? But it's not exactly the case, so, huh, no, just no. xD I guess it would be more okay for Katniss, since the prep team make a big deal of all her body hairs. And even then... I may sound like a bitch (and I apologize) but it's disgracious, even though she does have a pretty face. If I had one like that, I would wax that shit! And I'm not at all for beauty supremacy or anything like that, I am myself not extremely feminine (don't wear make up or dresses and rarely heels). I guess it's a personnal matter, though. Yeah, she's still very young so it doesn't really matter and I guess she'll see if she wants to keep it or not but I really think they should get rid of it for Prim.
I find it distracting. Maybe that makes me a little more vain than others but its the truth.
I agree with you Cassi, it is distracting. It's the first thing I noticed about her, and it was hard to get past before taking the rest of her look in. Can't say she's a good actress or not, I've never seen her in anything, but I hope she does the role well (my personal hope is minus the uni).
I'm on the fence. On one hand, the Unibrow is distracting. On the other I'm also against a little girl needing to wax or shave, lol. It's the protective Mommy in me, I suppose.
Wendy F wrote: "I'm on the fence. On one hand, the Unibrow is distracting. On the other I'm also against a little girl needing to wax or shave, lol. It's the protective Mommy in me, I suppose."But this is Hollywood. And the best protection for daughter dearest is not to put her in the acting biz.
Oh I agree, still though, the thought of it still bothers me. Parent's put their kids in pageants and then cover them with makeup and dye their hair but the thought of it still bothers me.
Wendy F wrote: "Oh I agree, still though, the thought of it still bothers me. Parent's put their kids in pageants and then cover them with makeup and dye their hair but the thought of it still bothers me."If I had a kid & not a dog I wouldn't do that. I also wouldn't take my kid to Hollywood. But I have a dog & she hardly listens so its a moot point.
Hahaha, yeah, for sure. Trust me, my kid hardly listens to me.THe other day we were sitting here and she started telling us off playfully, rolling her neck and everything. She even ended on a "Mmm Hmmm" with a snapped finger.
Wow. You ladies really know how to go off on some crazy stuff. btw if RPatz can get his huge English eyebrows waxed so can this little lady! I get mine waxed and see nothing wrong with it. We aren't talking about a nose or boob job here people!
I actually think it might boost her self-esteem more if she did wax it, because now that she is in the spotlight there will be a lot of people saying some pretty nasty things about it. It's already happening over on EW's message boards. :(
Brandi wrote: "I actually think it might boost her self-esteem more if she did wax it, because now that she is in the spotlight there will be a lot of people saying some pretty nasty things about it. It's already..."Really? I think we haven't been nasty here. She's a pretty little girl...she just happens to have a lot of hair on her face.
I didn't think of self esteem in that way though. The last thing you want is for your daughter to be tormented internationally for her eyebrows.
I actually think it's better to go ahead and do a very light wax or pluck if you know your child might be cruelly teased over such a thing. Why subject your child to being tormented? Self-acceptance is a great lesson to learn, but teasing can wreck a child's self-esteem.You can tell your kids all day long to be strong and that all that matters is how they feel about themselves, but harsh words can damage a child for life. I went through an extremely awkward phase in grades 4 through 6 before I figured myself out, and the teasing stuck with me well into high school, even when I had grown into myself and had friends and cute boyfriends. Sometimes, even when you're attractive, you still see yourself as the "before" and not the "after."
Cassi (Is out of glitter *sadness*) wrote: "Brandi wrote: "I actually think it might boost her self-esteem more if she did wax it, because now that she is in the spotlight there will be a lot of people saying some pretty nasty things about i..."No I didn't mean to indicate that anyone here had been nasty. But, as I mentioned there ARE people who will be, which I have already seen over at EW (Entertainment Weekly). You may have miunderstood my comment.
No I didn't misunderstand. But I think being nasty can be a slippery slope. I guess I was saying you can critique someones features without doing so in a cruel manner, which is what I hope we do.Sometimes the Internet brings out the worst in people. The Rebecca Black fiasco is an example. It's a horrible song, but the cyber bullying that followed was unfathomable.
It's always easier to be mean while hiding behind a computer *sigh* I think they're gonna wax it anyway. I mean, it's still Hollywood, and she will be playing Prim, not Frida Kahlo.
I seriously see no problem with waxing or plucking.
Stacia ~ bite is worse than her bark wrote: "but harsh words can damage a child for life"Not if they have a mean right hook!
Catie wrote: "I have to admit that the other day I noticed my (almost) three year old daughter has some lighter hairs in between...and I was wondering if that would get darker as she gets older...and I think tha..."I'd keep a unibrow like that just to annoy people, but that's just because I could. Kind of like when an actor has a gap or *shudder* wrinkles. As an actress, if the role called for it, I'd take it off. But afterwards I'd grow it back. Maybe I'd even get the brow arched?
I didn't even recognize Jennifer after her nose job.
And all Jennifer probably heard (before the nose job) was how much people hated her nose. Poor girl. I don't suffer from an abundance of brow hair, if anything, I could use a boost in that department.
You can combat being teased by being awesome. People would be like, "what unibrow? All I see is awesomeness". It's scientifically proven.
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