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The Hunger Games by Suzzane Collins


I can think of one series..."
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If you are talking about Graceling, I don't really consider Katsa a "teen".

I can think..."
Nope! Think more noble, less assassin. (And I know Katsa stops being an assasin but it's a hint)

Also the blogger wrote a break up letter to Gail here http://www.persnicketysnark.com/2010/...
I liked that, Jaimie. It didn't sway me at all but I liked it.
I won't be upset if Katniss ends up with Gale but I know someone is going to die and I don't want it to be Peeta.
I won't be upset if Katniss ends up with Gale but I know someone is going to die and I don't want it to be Peeta.


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I'm going to start my Hunger Games re-read sometime tomorrow I think. Hopefully I'll have enough time to get through them while I'm out of town before Tuesday!!
Should be interesting switching from Katsa and Po and Fire and Brigan back to Katniss, Peeta, Gale... and hopefully Cinna!!

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Thanks for sharing.

Also, just to weigh in on the discussion, I'm Team Gale.
My issue with Peeta (and this is personal, not meant to insult or push my feelings on anyone else) is that it is clear very early on that he is really good guy who would do anything for Katniss.
And then, two books later, who is he? A really good guy who would do anything for Katniss. And we don't really know anything else about him, we never see him make any tough decisions or go through some character growth despite how much he is in the books. I just find him to un-interesting.
Gale is barely in the books and as such is a mystery. We don't know all of his motivations, or all of his actions. It is clear that he cares about Katniss a great deal but he has so much more going on for him. More commitments, more people that depend on him, more to lose and more to gain. And I just really, really love him.

I'm thinking the mystery is what you like. (Not saying that Gale is bad...honestly neither guy seems bad.)
Peeta may have fairly simple motivations. But dang they are good motivations. The guy I'm seeing at the moment is hard to figure out and hard to get to know (We've been dating like 14 months too). I think I'm over mystery. Give me something solid and reliable, and that's what I see in Peeta. He's dependable in good ways (not dependable in that "I knew you'd be late but somehow I expected you to be on time" way.
It's probably personal preference. When I know Gale I may like him perfectly well. But I think some people are just drawn to the unknown, the mystery where they can feel in the blanks, and other people want to know what they're getting themselves into.






I would like to see Katniss stand on her own two feet, however, the only way I can see that happening is if BOTH Peeta and Gale die, and that is just too sad to think about. :(

They don't have to die! She just has to tell them both no, I've got a new country to run boys I got bigger fish to fry than silly relationships.
I've been with my hubby since I was 16 (will be celebrating my 39th birthday next week *gasp*) but we aren't the norm. Katniss isn't real so imagining her having a forever-type relationship at 16 is easy.
Peeta and Gale are both good guys. For me, it's just a matter of knowing Peeta better and loving what I know. Katniss is so worried about their feelings being a show that she is dismissing her true feelings. But I know she has real feelings for Gale too. I don't want her to end up alone. She's felt alone for so long and I want her to feel loved. I'll be happy with whoever she ends up with but I'll be a happier if it is Peeta. ;)
Peeta and Gale are both good guys. For me, it's just a matter of knowing Peeta better and loving what I know. Katniss is so worried about their feelings being a show that she is dismissing her true feelings. But I know she has real feelings for Gale too. I don't want her to end up alone. She's felt alone for so long and I want her to feel loved. I'll be happy with whoever she ends up with but I'll be a happier if it is Peeta. ;)

I've been with my hubby since 17. Maybe it isn't so out of the ordinary? I guess you can't plan when you meet your soulmate. I've been following the Peeta vs Gale debate for a few days now and weighing my options. I'm going to go with Team Peeta b/c they have a better "meeting" story. From Peeta's perspective, he fell in love with Katniss when he saw her spirit that day in the rain so long ago. For Katniss, she (IMO) fell in love during the hunger games. It was the scene with the berries for me. Both great stories to share with the grandchildren!

I have to second Courtney on this one. I met my husband our freshman year of high school and we started dating when we were 17. We got married at 25 and have been married for 8 years as of yesterday. I am surprised by how many people marry their high school sweethearts. It isn't typical, but there is enough of a percentage, that I think it is still fun to entertain the idea that Katniss might end up with one of these great guys.
I honestly can't say if I am Team Peeta or Team Gale. I just want her relationship, if she has one with either of them, to be realistically portrayed. I guess I am saying I want good reasons for her choice whoever that may be. I may have some slight Team Gale leanings though, because with Peeta I feel like you might always have to wonder, how much is real, and how much is doing what people (whether the Capitol or the resistance) expect you to do. I would be happy with either choice though as long as it is convincing.

Nope. In fact I dated my HS boyfriend for five years, but I can not even imagine ever marrying him.


Spoken like a diplomat. I didn't even have a serious boyfriend till 24 or my first kiss until then either.
I think the thing about Katniss is she hasn't had time to figure out love for herself. There have been too many people pushing her around the chessboard of life. That's partially why I think she's not ready. It's not necessarly because she's 16 but because she needs a chance just to live for awhile (without Hunger games, or keeping her family afloat, being the face of the revolution....seriously when does she have time for love?)

I see Katniss as kind of stuck in the same position for the last four to five years (since she started taking care of her family) without a whole lot of growth, so I would love to see her grow up a bit and develop a little more maturity before she decides who she going to be with for the rest of her life. It's just my personal opinion (not that I don't love her as is), but she doesn't seem all that mature and able to make that kind of decision without regrets yet.

Kourtni wrote: "I married my HS sweetheart. :) Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with not doing that. Nothing wrong with anything. At all."
Totally agree. I'm a small town girl. Married my high school sweetheart, two kids, same friends since middle school, the only vacations we have taken are camping and SoCal (my husband had his first plane ride when he was 35).
Cassi and Becca - I agree about Katniss.
Totally agree. I'm a small town girl. Married my high school sweetheart, two kids, same friends since middle school, the only vacations we have taken are camping and SoCal (my husband had his first plane ride when he was 35).
Cassi and Becca - I agree about Katniss.



Gale and Katniss are being described as looking so much alike, down to the same skin coloring. Both of their fathers are gone.
Is it possible that Katniss was somehow placed with her "mom and sister?" Neither one of them have olive skin, and both of them have blonde hair. Yes, I realize that siblings can inherit different traits from different parents, but maybe it's not a coincidence that Katniss shares nothing with either her mom or Prim, yet she looks so much like Gale?

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You bring up a point. They have mentioned their looks A LOT, to the point of "why are you telling me this." However, with as much time as they spend together you think someone would have warned them if they were related.
On unrelated note I'm pre-ordering Mockingjay. I can't pay the $17 for next day shipping. Amazon has a big facility and 1.5 hrs from me. Usually 3 day shipping comes quickly. How are you guys pre-ordering?


We're a smaller town so sometimes I think we get shipments less often.



I was thinking about this today. I was thinking "it wouldn't really make sense if Katniss didn't die." I know, of course in a way it would, but it's also so unlikely for her to have lived through all she has. Of course, that means she's a strong person, of course, but I also think that in way of a true leader who'd do anything for others, she is going to die in Mockingjay, for either her sister, or Peeta, or Gale. Maybe even Haymitch, her mother or Cinna. She just seems to me as if she's going to risk everything now, and it's all going to fall apart.
Of course, I WOULD HATE for her to have died but...it would seem kind of right. It would make the series unforgettable because it was written TRULY and as close to reality as you can get.

Speaking from an author's perspective, if you are telling a story from a first person perspective, and the entire story is told from one person over the span of several books its pretty much putting the stamp of guarantee that this character is not going to die no matter what happens. In the writing world it's absolute taboo to switch it up after this long. You do that and you'll loose your readership. All hell could break loose and Katniss will have to live through it somehow to tell us the story or there wouldn't have been a story to begin with. Interesting thought, but realistically it aint gonna happen.

I see your point...hmm,I didn't really think about that. But, maybe if she died at the end. Like, it ended like, "I felt the last breath leave my body as my oxygen supply cut off and I was left in a swirling, glistening, silver- coated blackness that I could only assume was oblivion. This is where it ends.", or something along those lines. I don't know, just a thought. Good point, though, very good point. I didn't really think of her first person writing.
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