This is not The Haters Club You're Looking For discussion
I hate Shakespeare (revived for Dave)
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Shakespeare is sometimes an acquired taste, dear. If your teachers have not succeeded in being able to help you comprehend his work, and to enjoy it, they have indeed fallen down in their calling. Hopefully, in time, his language will open to you like a lover, and you will fall into his sweet embrace, wondering how you have lived so long without knowing him.
Oh, my. I think I'm going to sit back and just watch this one.
Yeah, I know, Hamlet was just pure melodrama. All Hamlet wanted to do was bone his mother.
This will pass, Carlie.
This will pass, Carlie.
Carlie....thou art a yeasty, beef-witted lewdster.
I can never understand why people can't accept that someone can hate something "universally" loved. You guys sound like my family when I tell them I hate babies. Guess what? I've hated Shakespeare and babies for going on almost 2 decades now. It will not pass. This is not like my hate of sweet and sour chicken, it's more like my hate of the color pink (3 decades on that one). It's just not in the fabric of my universe within to appreciate crying drooling bags of poop nor tragic stories of tragic heroes descending into madness.And NB, for your information, I've never had a yeast infection, I'm vegetarian, and I don't use cuss words. ;)
I can genuinely hate some of the histories. And Romeo & Juliet isn't one of my favorites, though it's interesting in the way it breaks the rules, taking a comedy setup and ending it as a tragedy.I also remember my early experiences with Shakespeare, and I was pretty ready to hate him, too. Having Julius Caesar assigned in 9th grade didn't start me off on the right foot, Shakespeare-wise, that's for sure. It took me a long time, and a college Shakespeare class, to learn the language. But I'm still not going to go back and read Julius Caesar.
I had a great intro to Shakespeare with Julius Caesar in middle school - we put on a puppet show!
And even within those who do like Shakespeare, and even those who just tolerate him, most can still appreciate his mastery of language without particularly liking the stories he puts it together into.
Carlie, thou puny reeling-ripe joithead!
wow, the shakespearean versions of kindergarten name-calling. Gets me every time when my 5 yr old calls her friends poopiehead.
Shakespeare said out loud is a whole different thang. That's the way it's supposed to be! I hate when there's a bad production tho, when you can't understand what the actors are speaking or spoken stiff upper accent. You know a great production when everything is plain as day, even with the old language. Kenneth Branaugh usually does great productions. I've been lucky to see many brilliant productions when in NYC - the best ones were even free at Shakespeare in the Park.
Oh, I've heard wonderful things about Ashland, I've gotta get there!
Carlie... did you lose your sense of irony in the tall grass? Search! Search!!!
Oh, fantastic. My real, magical introduction to Shakespeare was at the Ashland Shakespeare Festival. Before that, and before watching the Shakespeare Festival at CU (and attending a lecture by the costume design director) I did not understand all the fuss about him. This past fall I was the TA for a freshman Shakespeare seminar where the professor didn't have the class read even one play straight through. I don't even remember reading any in high school - although I know we read at least Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet I don't think any of it made an impression on me at all. To this day I adore Othello and do not understand people who hate it. I also love The Tempest, A Winter's Tale, and Twelfth Night. Just the histories - not so much. I know there is good stuff to be had in knowing them, they just work better than Benedryl for sedating my consciousness.
Donna - have you been to the Boulder festival? Are you still in Colorado? I remember you talking about Blue Bonnet so you once lived here, right?
Charissa - I suspect it went the way of my Cheesecake Factory Godiva chocolate brownie sundae. But not to worry, they will reemerge together in perhaps a day or two? Albeit, in a form most unappetizing.And, you know what Sarah, you may have a point. My teacher actually made us read at least 3 of the plays round robin. That may have something to do with my hatred, for I hate Oedipus Rex which we also did round robin. I believe we did R&J, midsummer night's AND Othello round robin. It was frickin' PAINFUL. I loved Denzel in the midsummer night's dream movie so maybe there is hope for Shakespeare appreciation in this corner after all.
Yet, as far as language mastery goes, I'll erect my Dickens up against your Sheakspare any day and wager there would be a bicthslap of the Bard so fast that the claims he didn’t actually write half of the stuff would seem like honorifics.
Charissa, I'm turning that last sentence of yours in my head and can't make heads or tails of it. If you're saying Dicks was a better wordsmith than Shakes then I say whawhawhat? So many words and phrases we take for granted like "obscene" and "with bated breath," originate in Will's quill. While Chuck D was no slouch when putting noun to verb, he just wasn't as good a conjurer wordwise. He was a master of plot, which he could hold over Shakespeare, definitely.
Oopsies.My last post is directed towards Carlie.
Dave darlin... Billy the Shakes is my man... Dickens is his foot servant. Forever and ever. Amen.
I'm an idiot. I was talking to Carlie, but somehow you got caught in my head.
it's cozy in your head, I don't mind hanging out there. ; )
But there's some things there I don't want you to see. You wouldn't understand them.
you never know... I might recognize some of them... and even if I didn't understand them, I might just adore them anyway.
Ok, but if you see Kate Beckinsale in there, don't talk to her. She's being punished.
Heee!!! Uhm... you got her tied up? Oh dude, I'm so never leaving. W00t! Party in Dave's head!!
Man, this thread has gone horribly awry. Maybe that's good though, considering the title.
well, if anything, Billy Boy knew how to party.
Well, I've got to go to bed. Kate needs attending to. Adieu.
Here we go, Dave. I see what you mean. This is an old thread with all kinds of knowledge being tossed around. It's not about vomit or what anyone does at work. It's also amusing and interesting. I don't think it's too much to ask for both.Do you?
How come I didn't see this before you alerted me to it?What's funny was I was thinking about what I said in message 25 just the other day. I was wondering where that comment was.
I think you're right, but notice this thread was started way back in 2008.
Why is it buried so far down in the thread list and why didn't I see a little red number next to it?
I have to say, I always found Dickens to be exquisitely dull, myself.
I hate Romeo, I hate Juliet, I think they are the most idiotic characters ever! I could strangle Macbeth with my bare hands. All the comic characters remind me of the token comic short dark guy in most Indian films. No substance, pure drivel. I am so full of hate right now...
I like the name "Desdemona", it's so ... Cleopatra. I'll tell you what's in a name, sex, seduction, power. Imagine if Cleo was Charro or Britney. Think chocolate. Death by Chocolate. Cheesecake Factory's Godiva chocolate brownie sundae...I'm better now.