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Jul 22, 2012 04:26PM
this entire geektastic conversation is being bandied about on LJ; y'all are about to be immortalized.
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William wrote: "Now my turn to be "picky." "She followed" is elliptical and the object is understood, as in the comparative "My sister is taller [I am]," or an imperative sentence when the subject in understood."Ahm, sorry, but if you say "My sister is taller", it does not automatically include a "than I am", and therefore it would be bad style to use it.
Taller needs a comparative or it says nothing.
Which is the main point about grammar, it's most of the time preferrable to use a sentence that can be understood on its own.
Gerd wrote: "William wrote: "Now my turn to be "picky." "She followed" is elliptical and the object is understood, as in the comparative "My sister is taller [I am]," or an imperative sentence when the subject ..."Okay, try this: I am tall, but my sister is taller [than I am]. Sorry but I didn't think I'd have to fill in the gap. Also: When [I was] going to the store, I wrecked my car. Both elliptical.
Well, when you used "She followed" as base and then gave "My sister is taller" as an further example, I naturally assumed that you meant it as a complete sentence. :D
"I'll lead. You can follow." Both objects are dropped. But it was my mistake for inadvertently leaving out the "than" in my original message, so it is really my error. Sorry ;) Oh, and yeah, many times we leave out the "that" in clauses and the "to" in infinitives. What a mess, but it is often worse in other languages.
I noticed that the English like to drop the parts of a sentence that can be easily infered (though, I feel American authors are more prone to do this), I think that's part of what makes the beauty of the language.German, for example, is to rigid to do that.
Natalie wrote: "Let me know what you thought about it! :)"I'll be honest. While the article was well written, I disagreed with a lot of it's content and thought a lot of the analyses were lazy. That being said, I liked the writing and the descriptions a lot.
Will wrote: "Natalie wrote: "Let me know what you thought about it! :)"I'll be honest. While the article was well written, I disagreed with a lot of it's content and thought a lot of the analyses were lazy. T..."
It's his writing and description that I love the most. 9/11 art is hard to handle aesthetically and mentally. Perhaps I also enjoyed it because it tied-in well with Falling Man
I'm intrigued enough to move his book White Noise up on my list to get it sooner rather than later as I did enjoy his prose.
Marisella wrote: "this entire geektastic conversation is being bandied about on LJ; y'all are about to be immortalized."what is LJ?
The book was written in first person... Maybe she was in character as she wrote the book. We all know Bella wasn't that bright...
Sky wrote: "The book was written in first person... Maybe she was in character as she wrote the book. We all know Bella wasn't that bright..."I agree.
We're listening in on Bellas mind, who we know is conflicted and fragmented; it is only natural for the text to have the same flavor.
Hmm... I am rather perplexed. When I read the book, I... I didn't really notice the grammar. Might be my mistakes and carelessness. But still, it's really... boring and rather bland. I got bored in the midst of reading the book.
Okay, I'm not a fan of Twilight but I have read the books. In fact, I found her way of writing and her GRAMMAR perfect, it was my favourite part of the book, since I couldn't enjoy the characters or the story that I'd promised my friend I'd read. But I think she has a beautiful style of writing, I learned so many words to extend my vocabulary from those books! I've got nothing against her grammar, she has a way with words. And that's not a hugely common gift.
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Kristen wrote: "Jessica wrote: "Instead of arguing over bad grammar, why doesn't somebody give an example from the book?"Seriously.
Or several, since supposedly they're everywhere."
A good example is around page 100 or so im not sure where Bella supposedly changes in the changing room but Myers writes "I drifted to the changing room CHANGING in a trance like state." so Bella started changing while going to the changing room? Weird. Also it says something like "I went into the gym lightheaded and wobbly" Misplaced modifier right there
This isn't exactly a grammatical error, more of an editorial one, but it's one of my favorites:On page 39 of a hardback copy of BD, chapter 3. It's the morning of the wedding. Bella gets up and makes pancakes for Charlie, but she's too keyed up to eat. What happens a few lines down?
He scowled into his cereal bowl and muttered the words "monkey suit" under his breath.
Why's Charlie eating his pancakes in a cereal bowl? Unless he enjoys topping his cereal with pancakes, this is an editorial error.
One of my favorite screw-ups from Twilight is this quote about Edward staring at Bella with the gaze of a destroying angeldestroying angel = mushroom
EDWARD WAS STARING AT BELLA LIKE A MUSHROOM. niiiiiice
Meyer's editor should hang their head in shame. If I had a dollar for every discrepancy, inconsistency, and plot hole in this book I would be $$$$ing rich.
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