VAMPYRE LORE

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

anyway, :P It's because the Sun can be considered as holy, and the vampire unholy, so, therefore, the vampire can not venture into the sun. The same applies for crosses. The garlic, though, had been a common charm used in midevil times to ward off evil spirits, the ill-effects to a harmful spell, etc. Because of this, it was adopted that garlic would also, therefore, ward of the vampire.

[Thomas]

Mari は 狼 です。 wrote: "anyway, :P It's because the Sun can be considered as holy, and the vampire unholy, so, therefore, the vampire can not venture into the sun. The same applies for crosses. The garlic, though, had bee..."

its spelled Medieval not 'MIDEVIL'!! lollllllllllllllzzzz!! lmfao!!

[Tiffany]

lmfao

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

whatever. My spelligns going down the drain since I came here. I like the Japanese way of spelling stuff. so simple...

[Tiffany]

sure....lol

[Tiffany]

btw, u kinda spelled spelling wrong to, lmfao

[Thomas]

lmfao!!!!!!!! rofl!

[Katoof]

I can never spell :~S

[Tiffany]

ok everybody, out of all the different myths and legends around about vampire nowadays, which do u think is closest to the truth?

[Thomas]

None! Of all the references i've seen none that refers to Lilith and her legend as the true mother of all vampires.Lilith was actually made a human and tuned into a demon after she sinned. She was the first to sire a Vampire. The first true Vampire, Half Devil... Half Human. Since she was a demon when she gave birth... it is obvious that she was still using the human body she had before which was by then, dead. Nothing is still known about the name or where they were. But it was the great flood that wiped out the entire vampire race(the Nephilim race were wiped out as well). but their legends and the knowledge of their existence were saved by the humans who were spared by God.

on a different note, Nephilim were the race of giants... half-human half-angel. They were the first true shape-shifter. Contrary to popular belief of the word, 'Were' being only used for Werewolves. There are accounts in different parts of the world about these shape-shifters changing into different animals. It was choice on the shifters part that attached him to a particular species. And as with Vampire, the real truth has been twisted here as well. Werewolves are not an exclusive species. They are just a tiny part of a bigger picture. And FYI, the greatest folly on our part was that we see them in a really narrow way. Shape-shifters and Were-Wolves are alike and are the same. Its just that one chooses only one animal as its soul-shift and the other... more pure in form, can shift its soul into any animal of their choosing.

And we are talking of immortals who were wiped out by God himself here. The stories of blood thirsty Vampire kings and Killers in 'MIDEVIL'((lol! i like that version better)) times and all, just usage of the word Vampire in a metaphorical way or are just ways of showing how bad a person really was. for example, i can call a really cruel person a vampire because he lives off others misery.

And that's the whole story people. And that's the truth.

[Tiffany]

lmfao, hey, u know what series i KNOW u would like......

that's the 1 she follows, pretty much, i think she is like the only black author, besides me but i don't count yet;), that even writes about vamps. check it out though, it pretty much follows that with some differences. With Cain, Abel, Lillith, Adam and Eve.

[Thomas]

Tiffany wrote: "lmfao, hey, u know what series i KNOW u would like...... [bookcover:The Forbidden|3930..."

OMG! WOW!! thanks Tiffany!!

[Katoof]

I might have to look them up.... Can't get enough of the vampires atm!!!!

[Tiffany]

lol...ur welcum. It is a really good series ;)

[Katoof]

which is the first one... I will add it to my ever growing list....

[Tiffany]

lol, the minion, that's the correct reading order. ;)

[Katoof]

oops sorry.. I have added it to my list... had loads of books turn up on my doorstep today YAY ! so got quite a bit of reading to do before I can get any more !! There is nothing better than a big pile of books on my coffee table that I have never read ( small things make me happy)

[Tiffany]

lmao, its always the little things, lmao

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

blaaah blah blaaaaah blah blaaah blaaaah blah!

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Tom wrote: "Both are the same. The real spelling of Vampire is actually Vampyre or Vampir or Wampir (according to its use in Bulgarian, Slavic, Polish or Russian Vampire Lores or Regions). And as with all West..."

Oh em gee you sounded so smart! Lol:p anyway, about vampire lore......

[Thomas]

♥♥♥$tormi---today would be a horible day if wrote: "Tom wrote: "Both are the same. The real spelling of Vampire is actually Vampyre or Vampir or Wampir (according to its use in Bulgarian, Slavic, Polish or Russian Vampire Lores or Regions). And as w..."

lol!! i know, i can even surprise myself sometimes. I don't know why though!

[Christa (is on top of the world!)]

Wow. Do you know how the whole thing got started?
I saw something on the history channel(maybe it was the discovery channel) about it. Supposeably a mistess from the 18oo's hired female servents to care for her and when one servent cut herself the mistress was somehow drawn to the blood, she swept of the blood with her finger then licked it off. The creepy part is she enjoyed it, and craved more. She also thought the blood had some king of anti-aging power in it, so she drank it daily, and she even bathed in it! She killed over a dozen beutifull young maidens because of her obsession. When word finally got out, she was sentenced to spend the rest of her life wasting away in a tower.
The peasants begain to belive that vampires exsisted and would hunt anyone they were suspicious of. They used torches and wooden stakes for weapons. The show didn't mention anything about garlic so I'm assuming that wasn't used to warn off vampires from the village like some ledgends say. The most intriguing part about vampires is whether or not they really exsist. What do you think? Are they a myth, or real?

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

hmm, Real. Deff. real. There's also those ancient Native American stories and such about blood suckers. They had to based on something, and I doubt they heard about a rich woman in England. I've actually heard that story before too. There were also a couple crazy monarchs who had the same tendancies to bathe in blood for the belief of youth and power.

[Christa (is on top of the world!)]

Hmmm.... I wonder if it's inherited or if it's some kind of disorder. I'll have to look up more info.

[Christa (is on top of the world!)]

I found some info take a look.

Transformation
Some say the transformation from the human state to the Vampire state takes over from anywhere between six to nine months to complete. The virus that causes vampirism resembles a more primitive virus known as a prion. Most viruses act on a host by attacking the hosts' cells and changing the DNA and making the infected cells cause a monopoly effect. The host immune system then sees these cells with a different DNA as infections and attacks them. The virus that causes vampirism works in a more efficient and organized fashion. Instead of changing the DNA of the cells, the cells are modified to a degree in which it doesn't look too alien. This is done by introducing "mini chromosomes" called plasmids which enhance the original genetic code. The hosts' immune system then overlooks these cells. When you really think of it on a basic level, the human is the host organism and the vampirism causing virus is acting on a symbiotic relationship. Thus both organisms continue to thrive with one another.

Vampire Virus Contraction
This virus may be transmitted by bodily fluids such as blood, saliva and sometimes even in semen. If transmitted by blood to a healthy host with an efficient immune system, large amounts of the virus must be either be injected or ingested. It is highly unlikely that saliva can be the cause of infection due to the small amounts of the virus in the saliva. The virus within the saliva functions to infect a bitten area and heal the punctured skin, thus leaving no trace of the event.

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

one q, is this the first time you've looked this stuff up?

[Christa (is on top of the world!)]

Truthfully I've just recently developed an intrest in vampires.

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

ah, makes sense

[Kristin]

how many of u actually believe vampires exist

[Kristin]

and btw, the ones who believe are very smart, keep believing and always be aware of your surondings

[Kristin]

and people who like/believe in vampires should read Vampire Academy

[Kristin]

Tom wrote: "Mari は 狼 です。 wrote: "Lucifer fell from grace when he decided to lead some angels in a war against God. as an outcome, Lucifer was cast out, The ones loyal to him became deamons, the ones that sitch..."

that is NOT true about vampires always being evil and wanting to kill! im not trying to be mean, but get that strait, vampires ARE NOT ALL evil!

[Kristin]

Tom wrote: "Mari は 狼 です。 wrote: "Lucifer fell from grace when he decided to lead some angels in a war against God. as an outcome, Lucifer was cast out, The ones loyal to him became deamons, the ones that sitch..."

and u say the demons themselves wrote it or watever, but only a fool would believe every word a demon said, u cant tell if they are lieing or being truthful, i will say that some demons can be trusted, i know, this sounds rediculous, but true, and that still said, u can never believe every single word a demon says!

[Kristin]

Tom wrote: "As i said before, Angels are intelligent and calculating. But they are firm on one thing. Either choose to be with God and fight Lucifer or choose to follow Lucifer. There is no third choice. Their..."

and just saying, well, i guess asking, but who made the bible in the first place, how do you know that everything in the bible is true, im not trying to question the existance of god, but how do we know the bible is true???

[Kristin]

Tom wrote: "Mahalia wrote: "true but it'd be pointless. I think it'd be best to try and fight the attacker."

lol again... fighting is as pointless as running!! but i was just talking of the fact that the huma..."

i usually dont run, i usually stand my ground, and im not compleatly scared of vampires, if one tryed to bite me, honestly, i might even let it, and honestly, it would depend on wat the vampire looked like, if the vampire was ugly, just saying, but i would take it on, and not all vampires are as strong as most people think that they are.....

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

..why are you going back and addressing everything and tearing us apart?

[Pamela]

hmm ok

[Kristin]

Marielle wrote: "..why are you going back and addressing everything and tearing us apart?"

tearing WAT apart? im just asking who made the bible, im just curious, its not like im trying to kill people or put people down, im just asking, and its something i really want to know; who made the bible and how do we know that it's true??????

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

...sorry, it felt like you were tearing us apart is all...and let me guess, athiest?

[Kristin]

wat?

[Kristin]

wats that? oh, um, no, im not athiest, im christian, i believe in god, i just randomly thought about how we know the bible is true, im not questioning the existance of god, just the truthfulness of the bible....

[Kristin]

actually, i have no clue wat religion i am..........

[Michelle]

Technically everything written in the Bible was written by people, sometimes several hundred years after the supposed death of Jesus. Much has been removed from the Bible by panels of religious leaders over time, for instance reincarnation was once in the Christian religion but was removed. Anything that appears to be at odds with the teachings are removed. Apparently women still have no souls in the Catholic religion, so if some Vampires have no souls then I'm in good company.

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

lmao, so that means were all technically vamps then? cool with that! oh, btw, this is reminding me of this book I read, Madapple, where the characters talk about Christianity and compare it to other 'pegan' religions. One of the things I learned from it was that there are other religions where virgin births happen, it was cool to find out. :) Madapple

[Christa (is on top of the world!)]

wow no offence kristin but you write a lot! As for the whole beliving in vampires thing, I'd have to have proof of their exsistance

[Kristin]

lol, yea, sorry bout the all-at-once thing, but i just recntly joined and so i read every post yall have made and commented, and i totally understand the needing-proof-before-believing thing, most people say that

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

there's proof. honest!! there is!!!There's this disease you can get, it causes eye color changes, pale skin, and the need for blood. It may not be exactly what you want, but think of it this way, after millions of years, vampires are bound to be a sort of waterd down version of what they once were.

[Christa (is on top of the world!)]

Well I've heard about the desease but, most people just get blood transfusions, they don't actually drink blood. Plus they can go out in the sun without being burned. And what about the fangs? The only people who have fangs are the ones who get them files so they look like fangs. I'd probably have to meet a vampire in order to be convinced.

[Kristin]

i have real fangs, i swear they arnt the wannabe fake fangs, my fangs are longer than the rest of my teeth, like, alot longer than the rest of my teeth, and really sharp, i bite my lip and inside of my mouth all the time and start bleeding, its annoying, but they are the things i love most about my body, the make me unique, and everyone at school calls me vampire, and i kinda am, and besides, a vampire burning or sparkling in the sun is 100% myth, but some vampires do get weaker in sunlight

[Marielle, cool cat, good cat, pussy cat]

See? :3 (smug smile)