Have you seen any good movies lately? (Part THREE - 2010) Showing 201-250 of 1,349

[Katherine]

I see that Charlie Wilson, the larger-than-life Texas Congressman, died today. Did anyone see "Charlie Wilson's War", starring Tom Hanks? Wilson was instrumental in getting funds to rout the Russians out of Afghanistan in the 1980s. The movie was quite good, and left the viewer with a glimmer of knowledge as to why there are still problems there today.

[Jackie]

I guess it would depend on the insight the author has.
One time, in a James Patterson novel, a female in the first person was thinking about the man she loves and she's thinking 'I love him, I do, I do'. To me, it more reminiscent of a child's voice rather than a grown woman. 'I do, I do', seriously? I almost threw the book across the room. I can't remember the title, but I can tell you it was my least favorite of his.

[Jackie]

Katherine, yes, I did. It's too bad the govt only did half of what Charlie Wilson wanted to accomplish. And he was right on the money!
Goodbye to a Good American!

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "I guess it would depend on the insight the author has.
One time, in a James Patterson novel, a female in the first person was thinking about the man she loves and she's thinking 'I love him, I d..."

Good answer, Jackie. Yes, I think Hornby does have good insight into human nature. So I guess I should give him the benefit of the doubt.

BTW, I now realize that my post should have been in the books topic and not the movie topic. Senior moment, I guess. :)

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Katherine wrote: "I see that Charlie Wilson, the larger-than-life Texas Congressman, died today. Did anyone see "Charlie Wilson's War", starring Tom Hanks? Wilson was instrumental in getting funds to rout the Russia..."

Katherine, I missed that movie. I'll put it on my Netflix queue. Thanks for the post.
RIP Charlie Wilson.

[Jackie]

Joy wrote: I now realize that my post should have been in the books topic and not the movie topic. Senior moment, I guess.
Well, I didn't even notice, pre-senior moment for me, hahaha

[Jim]

Joy H. (of Glens Falls) wrote: "A day or so ago, I saw a comment somewhere which was written by Jim. In it he said he was uncomfortable with something about the book, something he couldn't accept (even though it was a pretty good..."

Me? Do you recall the book or message #?


I loved Charlie Wilson's War. Hanks was great in it.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "Me? Do you recall the book or message #? ..."

Jim, I've been trying to recall the details, but haven't been able to. I saw your review a day or so ago among the daily reviews of my "Top Friends" (which I receive by email).

[Werner]

Joy, do you want responses to your Message #200 (good question you posed, BTW!) here, or on one of the book threads?

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Werner wrote: "Joy, do you want responses to your Message #200 (good question you posed, BTW!) here, or on one of the book threads?"

Werner, good idea. I'm going to copy and paste that message at the general book thread right now, as soon as I post this message. Then the responses can be posted there. Thanks very much!

[Werner]

Sounds good, Joy; thank you!

[Jim]

We started watching "Lincoln", a movie based on Gore Vidal's book. It has Sam Watterson (the prosecutor from Law&Order) as Lincoln & his wife is played by Mary Tyler Moore. We're liking it so far, but it might be next weekend before we finish it.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "We started watching "Lincoln", a movie based on Gore Vidal's book. It has Sam Watterson (the prosecutor from Law&Order) as Lincoln & his wife is played by Mary Tyler Moore. We're liking it so far..."

I see from IMDb that it's about 3 hours long.
"Lincoln" (1988) (TV)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095242/

Netflix doesn't seem to carry it. I had borrowed Vidal's book, Lincoln: A Novel, but couldn't get into it for some reason. I had also borrowed Vidal's Burr: A Novel, but read only part of it. I remember getting bogged down by all the political characters in it.

[Jackie]

I watched The Sleeping Dictionary, starring Jessica Alba and Emily Mortimer, two actresses I will watch in anything.
From imbd:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242888/
In 1936, the expatriated young and naive just-graduated British John Truscott (Hugh Dancy) arrives to the Sarawak, a British colony, to work in the Iban society. The beautiful Selima (Jessica Alba) is assigned to be his "sleeping dictionary", to live and sleep with him and teach him the language and habits of the locals. The reluctant John and Selima fall in love for each other in a forbidden romance.

Filmed in beautiful Malaysia with incredibly stunning scenery. I enjoyed the movie very much. Great movie for romantics.

For more on the interesting Iban people:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iban_people

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "I watched The Sleeping Dictionary, starring Jessica Alba and Emily Mortimer, two actresses I will watch in anything.
From imbd: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242888/ ..."

Jackie, that does sound interesting! Thank you for the links. I watched the trailer. Now I've added it to my Netflix queue. Here's the Netflix description:
"The Sleeping Dictionary" (2001)
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Slee...

I browsed a bit of the Wiki page you posted about the Iban people. "The Ibans are a branch of the Dayak peoples of Borneo."

As an aside, when I was a kid, we used to put on shows in our neighbor's yard. Too bad we had no easy way of making videos back then. I played the part of the "Wild Woman of Borneo". Don't ask me where we got the idea for that act, but it has stayed in my mind all these years. I wore one of my dad's big white shirts and I would jump around waving butcher knives and cleavers. My hair was tangled and teased into a wild mass of curls all around my head. The article at your Wiki link said: "Ibans were renowned for practising headhunting." So I guess that's where the idea started.

There seems to have been a movie made in 1931 or 1932 with a similar title, "Wild Women of Borneo":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216411/
http://www.answers.com/topic/wild-wom...

Then there's this which I remember instigating at the "Phrase Finder" website in 2007 (I've always been curious about the origin of the phrase. I just now found it again.):
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_bo...
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_bo...
It says, in answer to my question: "What is the origin of the expression: "The Wild Woman of Borneo"? ====>
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"I believe this comes from the Victorian circus habit of calling their black show people 'wild' and often attributing their origin to 'Borneo'. They were often displayed wearing only a loin cloth, or similar tropical coverings, wielding a spear, or similar. The crowds were attracted with the call. 'Roll up, roll up, see the wild man of Borneo' The 'wild man of Borneo' was well established as a concept in the UK before WW2, and possibly earlier. The 'woman' version is merely an extension."
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Jackie, you see what you started?! You dug up a memory!

[Joy H., Group Founder]

PS-More about the Wild Woman of Borneo! ====>
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/ind...

[Jackie]

That is so interesting Joy! We made up a lot of games when we were kids, but nothing as cool as that. Too bad there wasn't video. But in saying that, it would also mean playstation and kids wouldn't get off their butts to make the vid!

[[deleted user]]

Jim wrote: "We started watching "Lincoln", a movie based on Gore Vidal's book. It has Sam Watterson (the prosecutor from Law&Order) as Lincoln & his wife is played by Mary Tyler Moore. We're liking it so far..."

I saw this on TV years ago, Watterson was wonderful, and I was amazed at MTM's performance as Mrs. Lincoln. Amazing!

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Katherine M wrote: "I saw this on TV years ago, Watterson was wonderful, and I was amazed at MTM's performance as Mrs. Lincoln. Amazing!"

Katherine, I was wondering how Mary Tyler Moore would fit into that part. Now you've got me curious. I wonder where Jim found the movie.
"Lincoln" (1988) (TV)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095242/
Netflix doesn't have it. Neither does our library, not on DVD anyway. I won't fool around with videotape anymore. I'm spoiled already by the ease of DVD... no rewinding! :)

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "That is so interesting Joy! We made up a lot of games when we were kids, but nothing as cool as that. Too bad there wasn't video. But in saying that, it would also mean playstation and kids woul..."

Jackie, I love remembering all the things we did as kids. I wish I could go back and do the fun things again... without life's usual tensions being part of the scene. Wordsworth coined the words "recollection in tranquility". A wise insight into nostalgia.

"Poetry is the spontaneous overflow of powerful feelings; it takes its origin from emotional recollection in tranquility." -William Wordsworth

The Cambridge Dictionary defines nostalgia as: "a feeling of pleasure and sometimes slight sadness at the same time as you think about things that happened in the past".
I like that definition.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defin...

Another definition of nostalgia:
"wistful longing for past times" Yes!
http://vocabulary-vocabulary.com/dict...

[Jim]

My daughter & her boyfriend gave us the movie for Xmas. I believe it was in the discount bin at Walmart. It came with another movie about the Civil War, "The Colt".

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "My daughter & her boyfriend gave us the movie for Xmas. I believe it was in the discount bin at Walmart. It came with another movie about the Civil War, "The Colt"."

A great gift, Jim!
Here's a good photo of Sam Waterston and Mary Tyler Moore as Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd Lincoln: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm141364889...

Here's the IMDb Award page for the movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095242/a...
Lamont Johnson won any Emmy for Outstanding Directing in a Miniseries or a Special.

The movie's IMDb quote page is fun to read:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095242/q...

Yes, a great gift!

[Katherine]

Joy H. (of Glens Falls) wrote: "Jackie wrote: "That is so interesting Joy! We made up a lot of games when we were kids, but nothing as cool as that. Too bad there wasn't video. But in saying that, it would also mean playstatio..."

The one play I remember doing when I was a kid was an original script, "Little Does She Know, There's Poison in It". I must have been influenced by "Arsenic and Old Lace", not that I remember ever seeing it.Now that I think of it, it must have been a radio script, as we didn't get TV until I was 10.
When I think about the fun we had as kids, I regret that most kids today don't have the same opportunities: to stay out until the streetlights come on, playing Kick the Can or Fox and Hounds, to walk or ride bikes to friends houses, or even downtown. I think we were the last age of innocence.

I probably sound like one of those elderly people who lament about days gone by. But so be it. I treasure the past, embrace today and look forward to the future.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Katherine wrote: "... When I think about the fun we had as kids ... I think we were the last age of innocence. I probably sound like one of those elderly people who lament about days gone by. But so be it. I treasure the past, embrace today and look forward to the future."

Well said, Katherine. Interesting about the script you wrote. When my grandkids visited one year, I had them doing puppet shows with hand puppets which I had bought, along with a cardboard theater. They wrote their own scripts for their shows. That was such fun! The whole family (aunts, uncles and Grandpa) sat and watched the kids perform.

PS-We did the same thing again the next year, and even the youngest one participated!

[Jackie]

I just watched 'Adam', a very interesting and unusual love story about a man with Asperger's Syndrome and his neighbor.
From imdb:
Soon after moving in, Beth, a brainy, beautiful writer damaged from a past relationship encounters Adam, the handsome, but odd, fellow in the downstairs apartment whose awkwardness is perplexing. Beth and Adam's ultimate connection leads to a tricky relationship that exemplifies something universal: truly reaching another person means bravely stretching into uncomfortable territory and the resulting shake-up can be liberating. Written by Fox Searchlight Pictures

Hugh Dancy, (who was also the main character in The Sleeping Dictionary) is a talented young actor. His portrayal of Adam was outstanding and completely believable. An excellent story and worth watching. Highly recommended.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "I just watched 'Adam', a very interesting and unusual love story about a man with Asperger's Syndrome and his neighbor.
From imdb: Soon after moving in, Beth, a brainy, beautiful writer damaged..."

Thanks Jackie! I am definitely going to watch that one.
"Adam" (2009): http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Adam/701...

It's interesting to learn more about the effects of Asperger's Syndrome. Some people who have it, don't even realize they have it because its effects are so varied.

I recently listened to (and was fascinated by) two different audio books related to Asperger's Syndrome. They were:
Look Me in the Eye: My Life with Asperger's
and
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time
Amazon says: "This one is a must-read".

You can see my posts at:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2...
and
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...
Message #868 - I wrote:
"It's a fictional story, told in the voice of a boy with Asperger's Syndrome, a mild kind of autism." (_The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time_)
and
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...
Message #901 (re: _The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time_)
I wrote: "Don't miss this book!"

[Earl]

Netflixed Public Enemies
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Public_E...
A lot of the flick seems to have been shot in the dark, an annoyance. I had trouble telling the actors apart. Apparently if you put a fedora on a man and grease his hair back, they all look alike? This is the only DVD that I wasn't able to use the skip/index thingie on the remote to get past the previews and crap. FastForward worked ok though. I give the movie 2½ stars. Think I'll put my NetFlix on-hold for 3 months at the end of this month. So you won't have to suffer my further tirades.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Earl wrote: "Netflixed Public Enemies http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Public_E...
A lot of the flick seems to have been shot in the dark, an annoyance. I had trouble telling the actors apart. ... Think I'll put my NetFlix on-hold for 3 months at the end of this month. So you won't have to suffer my further tirades."

Earl, your tirades are interesting and often validating. For example, I too get annoyed when the film is too dark. It's hard to see what's going on.

As for Netflix, for me, there's a never-ending list of films I want to try out.

Also, this weekend, while the grandkids were here, we streamed a couple of Netflix films onto our TV. One of them, the whole family watched and the other one, my 9 yr old grandson and I enjoyed by ourselves (he picked it out himself). The films were:

"Uncle Nino" (2005)
(My comment, after reading reviews): This was a great family movie which had been a "sleeper", but became popular simply by word of mouth. The critics didn't seem to think much of it. They don't seem too strong on "family values"; they're only interested in "art".)
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Uncle_...

"The Iron Giant": Special Edition (1999) (Sci-Fi genre)
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Ir...
This one (chosen by my grandson) was animated and kept my attention all the way through. Evidently, it was adapted from the book: The Iron Man by Ted Hughes (first published 1968) (seems to be a classic).
GR description:
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"Mankind must put a stop to the dreadful destruction caused by the Iron Man. A trap is set for him, but he cannot be kept down. Then, when a terrible monster from outer space threatens to lay waste to the planet, it is the Iron Man who finds a way to save the world."
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From Amazon:
"Reckoned one of the greatest of modern fairy tales." -Observer
"Hughes has never written more compellingly."
-Robert Nye, The Times
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0571...

If it weren't for Netflix, I would have missed these quality family moments.

[Jackie]

That's odd. I saw it and it wasn't dark. Maybe there was something wrong with the DVD? They did try to give it an old time feel, but I didn't find it overly dark, even the nighttime scenes were clear to me. I'd report the DVD as defective and ask for credit.

[Jackie]

We saw the Iron Giant a while ago with Eric and we all liked it. I still enjoy kid's movies.
I'll have to ckeck out Uncle Nino, I value family values in movies and feel there isn't nearly enough of it in contemporary movies.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie, I think you'll like the film "Uncle Nino". It's a warm, family film. Some of the critics said that it's predictable, not credible, and cliched, but so what! The family values (plus the well-portrayed Uncle Nimo himself) trumped those downsides. Joe Mantegna was good too... as the father.

I'm going to order the book, The Iron Man, for my grandson. Now I'm curious about it myself, especially after reading the Goodreads member reviews. As kids, they all loved it.

PS-BTW, that kid in the film, "The Iron Giant", really made me laugh out loud at parts. They did a good job in portraying him. He was so cute and so earnest.

[Jackie]

Joy wrote: The family values trumped those downsides.
Most movies are utterly predictable anyway. I'll take a heartwarming moral movie regardless of predictability over non-moral any day.

[Werner]

Joy and Jackie, a hearty "Amen! Right on!" to your good comments about family values and moral messages in movies! I'll have to keep an eye open for Uncle Nino.

Ever since I got it for Christmas, I've been watching a three-hour miniseries adaptation of Jamaica Inn, bit by little bit here and there. Since I'm still not completely done with it, I won't make any general comments about it; but the references above to a physically dark visual quality in some movies, that makes it hard to distinguish characters and see actions, made me think of it. That's definitely a marked characteristic of this miniseries, and it has its problems. On the other hand, in this case it has an arguable justification in terms of realism. It's set in early 19th-century Cornwall, and concerns the activities of smugglers and wreckers. Those people preferred dark nights for their work. In that part of the world, even the daylight hours are often dark and overcast, and the insides of houses very dimly illuminated at night --we're dealing with, in the words of one historian, "a world lit only by fire." (And since glass wasn't cheap, windows didn't always admit much light even in the daytime, so indoor scenes would tend to be rather gloomy, by our standards, even then.) And of course the director no doubt felt that this added to the Gothic ambiance of the production --which it does. (But it still can be irritating! :-))

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Werner wrote: "Joy and Jackie, a hearty "Amen! Right on!" to your good comments about family values and moral messages in movies! I'll have to keep an eye open for Uncle Nino. ..."

Werner, glad you hopped on the bandwagon. I'm going to add to what I said about the film "Uncle Nimo". Not only was it the family values which trumped the downsides, but it was also the endearing character of Uncle Nemo himself, portrayed in a low key manner by the actor, Pierrino Mascarino.

As for the dimly lit films, there must be a way to portray the low-light of past times without the annoying dark patches on the screen. They might put a bit more light on the character being shown and leave the surrounding area dim.

[Jackie]

Joy wrote: They might put a bit more light on the character being shown and leave the surrounding area dim.
That would help. I understand being 'artistic' but if it interferes with the enjoyment of the movie, or the viewing of the movie, they really shouldn't do it. Not everyone is looking for artistic, I know I'm not, I just want to be entertained. And if I can't see it, I'm not being entertained.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "... Not everyone is looking for artistic, I know I'm not, I just want to be entertained. And if I can't see it, I'm not being entertained."

Right, Jackie! And if I can't HEAR it, I'm not being entertained. Some directors aim for so much realism that they forget about their audience. I'm referring to movies in which the background-sounds actually drown out the dialogue. Or movies in which the dialogue is delivered at such a fast pace that the viewer has no time to digest its implications. I love a good line and often need time to savor it. That's where "rewind" comes in. But I shouldn't have to rewind in order to catch the good parts of the dialogue.

Sometimes I wonder what the directors are thinking of!

[Jackie]

AHHH! That's one of my pet peeves! It makes me crazy! I don't understand why I can hear background traffic so loud as to be blaring and yet cannot hear what a person is saying. It's called 'background' for a reason. And I have really good hearing, so this has to be done intentionally, though, for what reason I cannot fathom. It really ruins a movie or TV show for me. Often I have to put on the caption feature but I can only do that when I'm alone because Anthony doesn't like it. I feel that I shouldn't have to do it at all.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie, wait till the Baby Boomers get a little older. They will flood the directors with complaints about how difficult it is to see and hear their films.

One day I got irritated in the produce section of a local supermarket. The print was so small on the placards that I couldn't read it. As I say, wait till the Baby Boomers get a little older. Their eyesight will fail. Their hearing will fail. There's strength in numbers. LOL

[Rick-Founder JM CM BOOK CLUB]

I must say thar Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce are the Holmes and Watson I ever thinkof when I read Doyle

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Rick wrote: "I must say thar Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce are the Holmes and Watson I ever thinkof when I read Doyle"

Hi Rick! Welcome!

Yes, Rathbone and Bruce are the quintessential characters who represent Holmes and Watson (unless Robert Downey Jr. has now replaced Rathbone). .

I haven't read any of The Complete Sherlock Holmes: All 4 Novels & 56 Short Stories by Arthur Conan Doyle, but I did begin reading one a while ago. Never finished for some reason.

Below is a link to the Netflix listing for Sherlock Holmes movies:
http://www.netflix.com/Search?v1=Sher...

I have the latest Robert Downey Jr. film in my queue but I really should try one with Basil Rathbone. Would anyone recommend a particular one of them?

[Jackie]

As much as I liked RDjr as Holmes, there is only one person who I envision when I think of Holmes and that's Basil Rathbone. I grew up watching those old films. I think it's how I became attracted to mysteries in books.
I can't remember which ones I've seen but one does stand out: The Hound of The Baskervilles.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031448/

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "As much as I liked RDjr as Holmes, there is only one person who I envision when I think of Holmes and that's Basil Rathbone. I grew up watching those old films. ... I can't remember which ones I've seen but one does stand out: The Hound of The Baskervilles. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031448/ "

Jackie, "The Hound of the Baskervilles" (1939) is probably a good choice. The IMDb trivia page says it's the: "The first of fourteen films based on Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional consulting detective Sherlock Holmes starring Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes and Nigel Bruce as Doctor Watson."

It also says: "The original title "The Hound of the Baskervilles" refers to a dog that terrorizes a family called "Baskerville"."

Unfortunately, although Netflix has it listed, it says that the availablity of the DVD is unknown.
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Houn...

Here's the Netflix page listing all their "Hound of the Baskervilles" DVDs.
http://www.netflix.com/Search?oq=&...

So now I have to choose another Sherlock Holmes movie which stars Nigel Rathbone. The IMDb page of Basil Rathbone indicates that the second movie staring him as Sherlock Homes is:
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (1939)
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Adve...

So I've put that on my Netflix queue.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

PS-Wiki says: "Jeremy Brett is generally considered the definitive Holmes of recent times, having played the role in four series of The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock...

So I've put the following on my Netflix queue, since it stars Jeremy Brett:
Sherlock Holmes: The Hound of the Baskervilles (1988)
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Sherlock...

[Joy H., Group Founder]

PPS-I also have the following on my Netflix Queue:
"The Hound of the Baskervilles" (2000)
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Houn...
This is the version starring Matt Frewer as Holmes, which Werner described very well at the following post:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2...
Message # 50.

[Jackie]

Have you checked the library online? Even if your library doesn't have it, it'll order it from another library. I would think an old classic such as tHoB would be available in one of the libraries.
I didn't realize it was the first, very cool to know.

[Rick-Founder JM CM BOOK CLUB]

Katherine wrote: "I see that Charlie Wilson, the larger-than-life Texas Congressman, died today. Did anyone see "Charlie Wilson's War", starring Tom Hanks? Wilson was instrumental in getting funds to rout the Russia..."

I saw the movie 2 weeks ago- I really liked it- it showed how things "really worked" in DC

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Jackie wrote: "Have you checked the library online? Even if your library doesn't have it, it'll order it from another library. I would think an old classic such as tHoB would be available in one of the libraries..."

Jackie, I searched the library's online catalog and couldn't find it. I've sent an email inquiry to the library asking if they can locate the film on DVD ("The Hound of the Baskervilles" with Basil Rathbone).

[Jackie]

Joy, that's good then, maybe they'll find it for you.

[Joy H., Group Founder]

Rick wrote: "Katherine wrote: "... Did anyone see "Charlie Wilson's War", starring Tom Hanks?" ...
"I saw the movie 2 weeks ago- I really liked it- it showed how things "really worked" in DC"

I just noticed that the movie was a book: Charlie Wilson's War (first published 2003) by George Crile.
The GR description says:
"Charlie Wilson's War is the untold story behind the last battle of the Cold War and how it fueled the new jihad."

[Jackie]

I think goodreads is inaccurate with the words: how it fueled the new jihad
The jihad was coming anyway. The movie illustrated how if the govt. had followed Charlie's full plan, we would not be the targets we are today. He didn't just want them to win the War with our money, he wanted schools built and their country rebuilt. The children would have grown up seeing something positive done by Americans for their benefit without wanting something in return. Children believe what they are taught, and if they're taught we are selfish greedy capitalist pigs, then we are. If they saw firsthand something contrary, things would have been different. The children of then would be the adults in charge of the jihad now. I believe Charlie had the right of it and our govt dropped the ball big time.