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message 1: by Ruchi (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Well, it is an anomaly if a human has an extra chromosome, but it wouldn't be considered to be a defect if a werewolf/shapeshifter had it, since it is the norm within their species.


message 2: by Ruchi (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Aha, but they were born werewolves! According to the book, this is definitely a trait that has been passed down through the generations. It seems that they have separated into a sub species. Their...ability, for lack of a better word, was simply hidden until they reached the right age. Sort of like hitting puberty.

I'm not saying that they don't have mental issues, but they're probably not due to extra chromosomes and have more to do with bad writing.


message 3: by Ruchi (last edited Dec 02, 2009 09:25PM) (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Its not a different species every few generations- its always shapeshifter. They are always born shapeshifters by blood since their ancestors somehow managed to- Oh, I'm kidding myself. You'd need to trace the ancestors back millions of years, and even if you did manage that, a mutation in one chromosome probably wouldn't be sufficient to explain changing from man to wolf in microseconds. I still maintain that Meyer's wolves are a different species altogether, though. Did she provide any explanation for it in the books? I don't remember >.> If she claims that they're human then it just makes everything so much more retarded.

"It's literally like saying two humans gave birth to a wolf. It's genetically impossible."
Actually, its like saying two early ape like creatures gave birth to another ape like creature that was just slightly more humanoid because of a genetic quirk. This is genetically possible if you consider micro evolution.


message 4: by Ruchi (last edited Dec 02, 2009 09:43PM) (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Everybody in the Quieleute tribe does not transform because they aren't shapeshifters (the species), because of the magic of an author's license to bullshit. They are a dying race, or perhaps an incredibly exclusive one.
Edit: According to the story, the magic genes only activate when vampires are nearby.

Circumstantially, the genetic trait theory (x-men style) is more plausible, but its problematic in that you can't have all those superpowers with just one extra chromosome .___.;

"Yes, except the ape is only SLIGHTLY (ever so slightly) more humanoid, the ape doesn't suddenly shapeshift into a human which is what the werewolves do"
Oh, and that bit was to explain how the shapeshifters might have evolved as a species, and not their uber wolf abilities. That is an entire different kettle of poop.


message 5: by Ruchi (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Haha, but that's just it! That's exactly where Meyer got it wrong and why X-men are so awesome. She claims that shapeshifters are so awesome because of that one extra chromosome, and she spared no thought to the rest of the pairs. In X-men, I believe the explanation is that an extra mutant gene causes the rest of your DNA to go haywire and mutate, which allows for more flexibility as long as you're sufficiently vague about it.


message 6: by Ruchi (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) "But in the comics, in depth is rare if ever touched upon. It's more of a character driven thing, which I am glad for. It well worth makes up for the scientific inconsistencies.
Unlike SOME literature... "

Couldn't agree more. Dan Brown is another one that comes to mind. Tch.


message 7: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 lol rose!!!XD


message 8: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments I dont get the XD. Is it a dead smiley, or what?


message 9: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments ohhhhhhhh. that makes more sense.


message 10: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I thought it meant a dead smiley. Like instead of sweatdrop just XD.

Randomness:
Can anyone explain to me why potatoes have forty-eight chromosones?


message 11: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments so werewolves taste good?


message 12: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments lol. potatoes have funky chromosomes, and they taste good, so will werewolves, who also have funky chromosomes, taste good?


message 13: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments Jeez, all this talking scientificly is giving me a headache.


message 14: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments scientificly??? i really don think thats a word.


message 15: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments just subtly correct it. thats what i do.


message 16: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments at least it was a misspelled word. One of my subs actually gave us false info when she was doing a trial class to see if she would get the job when my current teacher left of maternity leave.


message 17: by Mutt (new)

Mutt | 98 comments When Smeyer mentions the extra chromosomes, is she talking about a single extra chromosome or a chromosome pair?

An extra single chromosome should give the werewolves Downs Syndrome, sure.

The issue about the extra pair comes up because a human egg and a human sperm both need to provide 24 chromosomes each. The only way for that to consistently happen is for a steaming pantload of incest involving brother and sister with this affliction. In order for a distinct bloodline to pop up, this incest would need to be constantly occurring with each generation. Now Rose, you pointed out the chromosome count of potatoes. Taking that nugget of information, I deduce that either
A, Smeyer's werewolves are sufferers of Downs Syndrome, or
B, Smeyer's werewolves are potatoes.

Either way, they're screwed.


message 18: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments or theyre potatoes with downs syndrome


message 19: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments contrary to popular belief, potatoes with downs syndrome are not attractive


message 20: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments You see, a club to hate something is helpful because then you have new points to point out to your friends that rose came up with.


message 21: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments you do realize that because you joined the club, your calling yourself pathetic and lifeless?


message 22: by Ana (new)

Ana (i_lurv_sugar_nom_nom_nom) | 30 comments and its not a blog. a blog is one person and everybody else commenting. this is a forum.


message 23: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments Rose wrote: "No, 'tis not I'm afraid...now I must kill you- JK! XD lol That's what the sub said to me when I crossed out the misspelled word on the worksheet we were given and told not to write on. I knew I sho..."

DUN KEEL MEH! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!


message 24: by Mutt (new)

Mutt | 98 comments HOLY CRAP! EXPLODING BROWNIES!


message 25: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments .... Best sentence ever.
BE CAREFUL! Their exploding deliciousness might be more awesome than anything that might have ever been awesome.


message 26: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments I'll pass on the brownines. KTHXBI O_O


message 27: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 hahahha! Agrees with Nightshade!!!! *sneaks away really really quick*


message 28: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments *sprints off* AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *chucks confetti grenade behind her* TAKE COVER!!





*BOOM*


message 29: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 *Hair frizzes like einstein*
WHOA!!! *laughs along*


message 30: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments We're building a city, not on rock and roll, but on exploding brownies.

WE'RE BUILDING A CITY... ON EXPLODING BROWNIES.


Olivia ^^The Awesome Mushroom^^ (canttaketheawesomeness) | 756 comments OMG, I WANNA HELP!


message 32: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments A Mary Sue is a perfect character (much like Bella Swan, actually). Like... well, if it's a girl's case, she would probably...

~Be gorgeous
~But at the same time "humble" and "self-depreciating"
~All the guys want her
~But she rejects them all (because she's too good for them?)
~Never does anything wrong
~Always says/does the "right thing"
~Almost dies, then is saved
~And saved again
~And again

Stuff like that. Hang on, I'll do the Mary Sue Litmus Test for Bella and then post the results here.


message 33: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

Isabella Swan failed the Mary Sue Test with flying colors.

Her total? 102.

That is RIDICULOUS.


Olivia ^^The Awesome Mushroom^^ (canttaketheawesomeness) | 756 comments Wow. Just..wow.


message 35: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments SweetSacrifice wrote: "Oh. My. God. 102?!?!?! XD WOW. And over 50 = Kill off your character NOW!

Daaaaamn.

Demon, in short, a Mary-Sue is a character who is perfect without any flaws at all."


I know, right?! Me and my friend put Edward through the test, too, and he got an even HIGHER score. I forget what it was... I'll do it again when I have more time. >:)


message 36: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments It was like, 137 or something. I can't do the test now but I will ASAP!


message 37: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments HO.LY.SHIT.
Actually, I'm not that surprised. I took it for one of my characters, and she scored a 40. I need to work on her...


message 38: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments I'm fucked.


message 39: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments Someone already made a Twilight burn book before me!!!


message 40: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments LOL!! I really want to read that!

And I'm going to do the Mary Sue Litmus Test for Edward Cullen now!


message 41: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments Whoa.

Just... whoa.

Edward Cullen failed even MORE miserably than Bella Swan.

125.

This is RIDICULOUS.


message 42: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments Jeezus CHRIST!!!!


message 43: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments I know, right?! O_O


message 44: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments Ho.Ly.Shit.On.A.Jezus.Cracker.
Guess what Melanie Stryder got? (from the shit book by sm, the host)
119.


message 45: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments AAAAHHHHHH *brain shrivels and dies*


message 46: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments *blinks furiously*

Oh don't mind me, I'm just going into some sort of a shock.

*blinks again*

I'm going through the test, just to get a feel of it, and I'm thinking "God these questions aren't something that shouldn't be a big shock to an author! Who would get over fifty on these things?" And then I thought of SMeyer, and reality came crashing down on me.

*blinks*


message 47: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments I know, right?!


message 48: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments Totally!! I'm reading the questions and thinking, "Who in their right mind would actually have a character do this?"

...and then both Bella AND Deadward got over 100.

*passes out*


message 49: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments *shudders*


message 50: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments I just did one of my own characters and she got 20. On the results scale, this is perfectly fine. I really don't know how anyone can get a score of over, like, 50.


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