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I hate that all the stores I shop at don't sell dresses in size 2!

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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

I mean, really! The only stores that do sell them in size 2 are all designer! And I'm not paying $600 just to wear a dress that I'll only use 3 or 4 times!
It's not my fault that I'm this skinny!

ps. i saw that there was a thread about 'quiet newcomers' so I'm trying to get out of my shell. :)


Reads with Scotch I feel your pain. My wife is a tiny tot too. Victoria’s secrete has a lot of really good cloths, in pieties sizes too!


message 3: by Lisa (new)

Lisa On a similar note, I hate stores that sell their size '2' clothes to women who wear a size six. I don't care about their egos, I just want a pair of pants that fit me! Ann Taylor, I'm lookin' at you...


message 4: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Um, please don't take this personally, but I never, ever, ever need to hear someone bitch about anything that has anything to do with being a size two. So, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, shut the hell up.


Jackie "the Librarian" I can sympathize with the pain of shopping for clothes. I myself dread buying new pants. What trend will I be subjected to this season? Extremely low rise? Boot cut, which make me look like a smurf (and why is this attractive, I wonder)? Acid wash? Or best of all, made to look dirty!
It's hell on my self esteem when the clothes fit funny, but I sustain myself with episodes of "What Not to Wear", and just keep trying things on.
But, yes, shut up about the size two thing.


message 6: by Kirk (new)

Kirk I watch "What Not to Wear" to prove to my girlfriend that I love her. I might as well be watching Telemundo for as much of it as I understand, but I do dig that skunk stripe in Stacy's hair---very Susan Sontag.

Hey Nick, what exactly did Victoria secrete? (Post 2)


message 7: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) I love that show! I think it would be fun to go shopping with Stacy and Clinton. I hated the guy they had on before Clinton.

Then again, I'm pretty sure she's a size two, too. So pppbbbllltttthhh to her.


Jackie "the Librarian" Yeah, that guy before Clinton needed to go on the show for a makeover. Sloppy jeans, jerseys, and bad hair do not make for a convincing stylist.

I love Clinton Kelly, but he does seem to have a breast fixation. I guess HE's not gay!


message 9: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Jackie, as we've discussed elsewhere (Axis maybe?) there are quite a good number of gay men obsessed with boobies. It's the vajayjay they won't go near.


message 10: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Oh!! Wouldn't Clinton and Anderson Cooper make an adorable New York Power Couple?


message 11: by Kirk (new)

Kirk Kami, give it twenty years and you'll dig that skunk stripe. It's a MILF thing.


message 12: by Lisa (last edited Apr 12, 2008 09:12PM) (new)

Lisa I hate fat people. Because they're always complaining because I'm skinny out one side of their mouths, while stuffing the other side with...god knows what that is, but it came out of a box and then went into the microwave. And regular people too, they're constantly complaining that if they could just lose that 20 pounds they're sure they need to lose, they'd be happy and fulfilled and find love and win a million dollars in the lottery. And somehow it's my fault they can't lose that 20 pounds, because I don't need to lose 20 pounds. And I hate skinny people who tell everyone who will listen that they can eat anything they want. Do you think anyone wants to hear you brag? And seriously, if you can eat anything you want, why are you eating THAT? I wish suddenly gaining 40 pounds upon them, or better yet, heart disease. And I hate skinny people who eat half a grape for lunch, then run off to the gym. Because there isn't a single person on this planet who wants to hear one more time from a stick-thin waif, "does this make my arms/ankles/earlobes look fat?" And because I'm afraid that someone who hasn't seen me eat (or hasn't heard me open my mouth...) might confuse me with one of those sick, sick people. And I hate people who hate me because I wear a size two. I was a foot shorter than anyone else in my elementary school class, and was always picked last for kickball, and I'll forever be traumatized by being the awkward, tiny nerd.

(And I hate anyone who doesn't take this as the hyperbole it is) ;)


message 13: by Sally (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | -1 comments mmmmmm, anderson cooper....

and, I hate NO I loathe hearing anyone say "I have got to go to the gym after blahbedahblah" I never have to go to the gym, I hate those hamster wheels, I think they are creepy.
But more than anything - I hate it when random people tell me "you've lost weight!" when I have not and have not been trying to. What - does this mean that I needed to? Some kind of backhanded encouragement to keep it up? WTF?


Jackie "the Librarian" Speaking of food, and eating, I hate it when we are told how terrible some food is.

Do you like movie popcorn? Well, guess what? It has 3,000 calories a tub, not counting the buttery flavoring stuff.

How about Chinese food? Do you like that? Ha HA! General Tso's chicken could sustain an actual army!

And now, they are telling us that bottled water is bad, because chemicals leach into it from the plastic. Great. That's just great.

It makes it very tempting to just throw one's arms up into the air and say, "Fine! I give up! I'm going to eat Krispy Kremes and go to hell, and I don't CARE anymore. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Wha ha ha ha ha!"

Runs into the night, cramming doughnuts into her mouth, cackling madly


message 15: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) I don't mind skinny people being skinny. But I hate skinny people who bitch about being skinny. I hate skinny people who tell fat people to just go ahead and lose 20 pounds, like it's as easy as spending 20 dollars, especially if said skinny person has never had to try to lose 20 pounds. And I hate anyone who starts a post with "I hate fat people." Hyperbole or no. I'm not a violent person, but I'm pretty sure that if you were sitting here and you'd said that to me I would have punched you in the mouth.


message 16: by Charissa (new)

Charissa (dakinigrl) I'm with you Sarah. Uncalled for. Seriously.


message 17: by Lisa (last edited Apr 13, 2008 12:19AM) (new)

Lisa Oh, come on. You've got to give me at least credit for being an equal-opportunity offender, hating fat people, regular people, skinny people who claim they can eat anything they want, skinny people who worry about the calories in a grape, and people who hate me for my size.

Did I join the wrong group? I mean...I'm new here. This is the Haters Club, right? Or did I wander into the wrong room? I swear, the syllabus said room 212! :)

(And what's wrong with there being some downsides to being small? Should it be utopia? I'm offering schadenfreude here, people!)


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Gosh, maybe some rich person should come in here and post about how much it sucks to be rich and how money can't buy happiness and how they hate all those poor people who are always whining about being hungry and homeless.


Reads with Scotch My wife is obsessed with Tim Gunn. Project runway, Tim Gunn guide to style… I have no fashion sense.


Reads with Scotch What can I say, I'm a world class humanitarian.


message 21: by Sally (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | -1 comments Marie that is hilarious. This thread is getting a little ridiculous. It gets really personal, really fast when we start hating people for aspects of their bodies over which they really have no control. I mean, does it really need to be said?


The Cute Little Brown-haired girl I, too think that anyone that is size two needs to shut the fuck up. I hate people who are size two and cannot find a bra. I cannot buy a bra at Victoria's Secret because they don't MAKE 38 DD's. "Don't hate me because I am this skinny"? WTF? Go eat a sandwich and then start bitching when you can't button your jeans when it's your time of the month...then maybe I will listen to you. Poor baby, you will only get to wear your $600 dress 3 or 4 times. Shame on you! Honestly girl, my eyes cannot roll back far enough.


Reads with Scotch You know, Guys may be war mongers, but women are truly vicious creatures. I can feel the pure hate permeating from this thread. Ahhh so relaxing, I'm getting all warm and fuzy.


Reads with Scotch do you have a problem with guys fingering you?


message 25: by Erika (new)

Erika (smick) talking the body-love with the womens gets them really riled up! it makes me feel bad (like hate) that this is still an issue in our gender and there is no compassion for the 'other end'. i gather it's not so fun on any side of the scales- therefore i don't use the mean little toe stubbers. ahem, i have a fortunate bod, BUT i have less than great skin and poor hearing and age can/will change it all at any moment... so it evens out. i would be more inclined to argue in the voice of 'skinny' ( a word i find demeaning) if i thought this was an argument worth having. as far as the hell of shopping for well fitting fashion goes; if you have money for it then be happy, you will find something somewhere that is perfect for the one time you plan to wear it. i just need to pay my bills and they care not what i wear (apparently). oh! and when you are done with said one time fashion, donate it so i can buy it at the thrift for a few bucks. i love that.

my two cents- keep the change.


Reads with Scotch ??? I don't get it why was it uncalled for?


Reads with Scotch Oh wait, I just figured it out. No pun intended.


message 28: by Brigid ✩ (last edited Apr 13, 2008 12:39PM) (new)

Brigid ✩ aargh! i am also too tiny! everyone's like "oooh, you're so lucky! you're so small!" but it sucks! first of all, i'm not physically fit, i just have a speedy metabolism or something! anyway, being skinny does not automatically make you pretty! people can be so shallow... plus nothing ever fits me! i'm fifteen but i still have to wear, like, kids' clothes, which of course do not flatter my body at all. it sucks so much. my feet are also too small... so no shoes fit me either. grrr...


Jackie "the Librarian" Is anybody here completely happy with their appearance? I think every woman has body issues. I don't know if this is true about men so much? Nick? Alfonso? Are you happy with your looks?

This is such an appearance-oriented society, hardly anyone will be happy with their appearance. If you have curly hair, you want straight hair. If you're short, you wish you were tall.

Here's what I try to do. I try to get out of my head, and quit thinking about myself so much, and instead, focus on a book. On a friend. On a bike ride. On the beauty of the sky at sunset.

I know it's hard, especially in those teenage years, when everyone is so judgmental. But here's the thing. Everyone is so worried about how they themselves are being perceived, they don't have much time left over to think about YOU!


Reads with Scotch Am I happy with my physical appearance? No. I used to be. But not now. I was injured a few years ago and haven’t been able to keep up with my work out time. I have never been the kind of guy that spent 4 hours a day working out in a gym, but I was pretty fit, had a 4pack, nice and tone. Now I am soft. My wife has said in recent years that I am half the man she married. This is usually followed up (on my side) with self pity. I once told her it was ok because she was twice the women I married. I don’t think I need to say that didn’t work out in my favor.

Question, why can women say anything they want but guys get hosed.



message 31: by Erika (new)

Erika (smick) answer: looks like girls *are* getting hosed


Reads with Scotch because she's gaining a little? or because I am getting soft?


message 33: by Erika (new)

Erika (smick) i was referring to how girls can't really say anything to other girls without some backlashing either. we can be just as reactive to each other (maybe even more).
in your life, i'm sure you are both fine and if you are like me you can stand to improve but would rather sit today.


Reads with Scotch SEE!HA A women just admited it. Women are crazy mean.


message 35: by Lisa (new)

Lisa For the record, I thought the suggestion that I eat a sandwich was a good one. I'm currently eating a sandwich. Ham and swiss on marble rye. It's pretty good.


Jackie "the Librarian" Mmm, a sandwich. Boy, I'm hungy, and I think there's still an avocado in the fridge. That with lettuce, tomato, and mayo would be tasty on toast right about now.

I think mowing the lawn got my metabolism revved up.


message 37: by Tracy (new)

Tracy hey, here's what i hate: clothing sizing conventions. who makes this crap up? it's not like it makes any sense. even averaged out it's all screwed up.

for example, i usually wear XS tops. i wear a medium/large on the bottom. but if it's a dress, i'm back to S or XS, even if it's not made of stretchy material. and here's the kicker: i'm not disproportionate. i'm pretty average sized, really. i certainly don't have the boyish figure so in style right now, but i'm not some ridiculous fertility goddess either.


also, for some decent size 2 dresses, go try on the high end ones at saks then just buy them online off of bluefly or something. that way, you get a sweet dress that fits, but it's not terribly more expensive than the ones that don't come in your size anyway. and there's always wrap dresses. which will still fit if you happen to somehow lose your amazing metabolism and gain and extra 20 lbs.


message 38: by Lisa (new)

Lisa A really good vintage shop is another great place to find great clothes in small sizes. Especially a well-stocked vintage shop run by a crazy old lady who seems like she should be holding a long, ivory cigarette holder. She'll look at you, look at the inventory, and then grab a handful of dresses she thinks best fit your particular event. And when you say, "I really like this..." she'll cut you off, tell you it won't fit you, and hustle you off to the dressing room with her favorites (damn it, she's ALWAYS right...). I now own the most stunning '50's-era gold-and-turquoise brocade sheath formal that I got for less than I'd have paid for a new dress I could have worn to the ridiculous east-coast high-society black-tie wedding my rural-overalls family stood out like a sore thumb at. In this dress, I look like I ought to be able to shoot sparks out of my fingers.

Okay, I'm really only describing Keep 'em Flying in Portland (there's another one like this too, down by Saturday Market, with some odd hours, and the old lady will seem at first like she hates your guts and won't let you try anything at all on) and Via's Vintage in Minneapolis. The rest of the crazy old vintage ladies out there are probably packing weapons, for all I know.


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