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I have 360 Social services and other specialised servies and 610 Medical science/medicine.Can I read a book where a social worker features- or would it have to be predominantly about the social worker? Anyone got any suggestions for me.
For the medicine part- would a book about a doctor be ok?
I don't know why, but I'm having a hard time with this one! My head is telling me this should be easy but no ideas are forthcoming lol ...My choices are:
302 - social interaction
303 - social processes
304 - factors affecting social behaviour
305 - social groups
306 - culture and instituations
552 - petrology?!?!?
553 - economic geology
554 - earth sciences - Europe
555 - earth sciences - Asia
556 - earth sciences - Africa
OR I could go with these:
567 - fossils - cold-blooded vertebrates
568 - fossil birds
569 - fossil mammalia
570 - life sciences
571 - physiology
817 - satire and humour
818 - miscellaneous writings
819 - no longer used
820 - English poetry (not really my cup of tea)
821 - English drama
Any suggestions? I wouldn't normally ask for suggestions for such a broad task, but I am struggling! I'm thinking the 800s are going to be easier ... but open to all ideas!
Thanks so much for all the suggestions :) LOL at Fancy Coffins!!I thought I had worked it out that I had to use 684 to get to my second choice, which was the only decent selection at the limit of the +2 thing, but I actually think I can stretch -2 backwards now for a couple of your suggestions. I need to go and do some more maths! I'm so confused!
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684 Furnishings & home workshops
Any sugges..."
How about
Measure Twice, Cut Once Lessons from a Master Carpenter
or if you want to go with fiction
Ernie's Ark
Armed with my list of numbers I went to a local library (the first one used Library of Congress), and just walked around the shelves looking up those numbers. I ended up with a philosophy book. There are books that are like companion books to History Channel or PBS type series that are catalogued in what I thought were odd places,. some under my numbers. All sorts of "learning lite" non-fiction books that would make interesting reading. Physically looking on the shelves with my list of numbers made this much easier.
I did, though, go through about 10 of my five star books to find my final choices. The problem was that only one of the two numbers would give me good possibilities. Still this was much easier than I thought it would be.
Kim wrote: "I have 360 Social services and other specialised servies and 610 Medical science/medicine.Can I read a book where a social worker features- or would it have to be predominantly about the social worker? Anyone got any suggestions for me.
For the medicine part- would a book about a doctor be ok? ..."
PJReads, I'm just confirming that these choices work. Please let me know if they don't.One of my top rated books was The Screwtape Letters at 175 pages. So my choices for your task would be:
On Bullshit (DDC 177.3) & Eats, Shoots & Leaves The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation (DDC 428.2, which is 177+250 +/-2)
SuzieR wrote: "I don't know why, but I'm having a hard time with this one! My head is telling me this should be easy but no ideas are forthcoming lol ...My choices are:
302 - social interaction
303 - social p..."
Searching the New York Public Library catalog by call number will give you ideas about books relating to these subjects.
http://catalog.nypl.org/
306 - culture and instituations
shows almost 2000 books over a wide spectrum, including:
Beats, rhymes & life : what we love and hate about hip-hop
Popular culture : the metropolitan experience
E.T. culture : anthropology in outerspaces
Goth : undead subculture
This is your country on drugs : the secret history of getting high in America
Powers of theory : capitalism, the state, and democracy
Cultures of peace : the hidden side of history
Spree : a cultural history of shopping
Belief, bodies, and being : feminist reflections on embodiment
Am I thin enough yet? : the cult of thinness and the commercialization of identity
The elementary forms of the religious life : a study in religious sociology
Chicken soup for the couple's soul : inspirational stories about love and relationships
The book of love : the story of the kamasutra
Death and bereavement across cultures
Countries and their cultures
The culture of war
The gift : creativity and the artist in the modern world
The pleasures and sorrows of work
Gig : Americans talk about their jobs at the turn of the millennium
Race in the college classroom : pedagogy and politics
Language shock : understanding the culture of conversation
Language, mind, and culture : a practical introduction
Grown-up marriage : what we know, wish we had known, and still need to know about being married
The complete divorce handbook : a practical guide
Intertwined lives : Margaret Mead, Ruth Benedict, and their circle
No one makes you shop at Wal-Mart : the surprising deceptions of individual choice
A 306 book that I've read and recommend is
Understanding Cultural Differences by Edward T. Hall
SuzieR wrote: "I don't know why, but I'm having a hard time with this one! My head is telling me this should be easy but no ideas are forthcoming lol ...My choices are:
302 - social interaction
303 - social p..."
Edward R. Tufte has a couple of good 302 books:
Visual Explanations Images and Quantities, Evidence and Narrative
Envisioning Information
SuzieR wrote: "I don't know why, but I'm having a hard time with this one! My head is telling me this should be easy but no ideas are forthcoming lol ...My choices are:
302 - social interaction
303 - social p..."
553 - economic geology includes gems, precious stones, oil, water, gold, amber, minerals, hydrogen
Sarah Andrews mystery series about geologist Em Hansen fits
also Camille Minichino's periodic table mysteries
Ok! Thanks guys, I'll have a look at all these suggestions :)
Okay let me know if I have done this correctly.My 5 star read is The Book of Lost Things which is 480 pages.
480 (plus or minus 2) I'll use 500 which is science and choose a book I own about planets (non-fiction) of which I can't remember the name.
Then 480-250 = 240. 240 (plus or minus 2) I'll use 230 which is Christianity & Christian Theology and choose The Pilgrim's Progress.
Felina wrote: "Okay let me know if I have done this correctly.My 5 star read is The Book of Lost Things which is 480 pages.
480 (plus or minus 2) I'll use 500 which is science and choose a book I own about..."
480 (+/-2) = the Dewey Decimal Categories:
478 Classical Latin usage
479 Other Italic languages
480 Hellenic languages; classical Greek
481 Classical Greek writing & phonology
482 Classical Greek etymology
I don't think the planets book works for that.
PJReads if the final say on the question, but that's how I've interpreted the rules for this task.
Felina wrote: "My 5 star read is The Book of Lost Things which is 480 pages. 480 (plus or minus 2) I'll use 500 which is science and choose a book I own about planets (non-fiction) of which I can't remember the name.
Then 480-250 = 240. 240 (plus or minus 2) I'll use 230 which is Christianity & Christian Theology and choose The Pilgrim's Progress. ..."
I think the second catagory is + or - 250 from Catagory 1. For example, if you used Catagory 480 for your first book, you would use either Catagory 230 or 730 for the second book. But if you plan on using Catagory 500 (??), you'd use either catagory 250 or 750.
I'm waiting to hear from PJReads to see if I got it right, too.
Okay Krista. I see what you are saying. I guess I'll have to pick another book cause I will not be reading anything about Hellenistic languages.
Felina, I think (but you will need to check with PJ Reads) that you could read a book originally published in a Hellenistic language, like The Iliad or The Odyssey
Thanks Rachel Erin! but I'm not much of a classics girl and I think I'd have to pass on those *flashes back to boredom in a college lit class*. PJ - I just finished Misery. I gave it 5 stars. I can't fit it into the current challenge but can I use it as my jumping off point?
Felina wrote: "Thanks Rachel Erin! but I'm not much of a classics girl and I think I'd have to pass on those *flashes back to boredom in a college lit class*. PJ - I just finished Misery. I gave it 5 stars. I..."
Yes, the task includes the option to use any 5* book in your GR Read list.
Petra wrote: "Felina wrote: "My 5 star read is The Book of Lost Things which is 480 pages....I think the second catagory is + or - 250 from Catagory 1. For example, if you used Catagory 480 for your first book, you would use either Catagory 230 or 730 for the second book. But if you plan on using Catagory 500 (??), you'd use either catagory 250 or 750.
I'm waiting to hear from PJReads to see if I got it right, too."
The second category is 250 +/-2 from either the page count you started with OR the DDC number you picked for the first book.
Thanks, PJReads! Are you able to confirm that these two books are acceptable for your task? On Bullshit has been accepted but I'm not sure of the second book.
Thanks!
One of my top rated books was The Screwtape Letters at 175 pages. So my choices for your task would be:
On Bullshit (DDC 177.3) & Eats, Shoots & Leaves The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation (DDC 428.2, which is 177+250 +/-2)
Petra wrote: "Thanks, PJReads! Are you able to confirm that these two books are acceptable for your task? On Bullshit has been accepted but I'm not sure of the second book.
Thanks!
One of my top rated books was The Screwtape Letters at 175 pages. So my choices for your task would be:
On Bullshit (DDC 177.3) & Eats, Shoots & Leaves The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation (DDC 428.2, which is 177+250 +/-2)"
Yes to both -- enjoy!
Felina wrote: "Thanks Rachel Erin! but I'm not much of a classics girl and I think I'd have to pass on those *flashes back to boredom in a college lit class*. PJ - I just finished Misery. I gave it 5 stars. I..."
No problem-they're definitely not for everyone.
pjreads, is this okay-
One of my favorite books for the Fall Challenge was King Lear (384 pgs +/-2), so for 385. Railroad transportation I want to read Orient Express and for 133 (384-150 +/-2) Parapsychology and Occultism, Carrie?
Rachel Erin wrote: "Felina wrote: "Thanks Rachel Erin! but I'm not much of a classics girl and I think I'd have to pass on those *flashes back to boredom in a college lit class*....One of my favorite books for the Fall Challenge was King Lear (384 pgs +/-2), so for 385. Railroad transportation I want to read Orient Express and for 133 (384-150 +/-2) Parapsychology and Occultism, Carrie?..."
Yes to both books ... and I love King Lear.
Okay here's my second shot.I am using Misery - 351 pages
348 is Law, Regulations, Cases - A Time to Kill
-250 is 101
I'm thinking 100 Philosophy & Psychology - Everything I Needed to Know about Being a Girl I Learned from Judy Blume (Okay at first glance I know this doesn't look like philosophy but its a series of stories written by woman who talk about their life's journeys. I think that qualifies. PJReads, does that qualify?)
OR 098 Prohibited Works for which I will read Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret
Either way I wants me some Blume
Felina wrote: "Okay here's my second shot.I am using Misery - 351 pages
348 is Law, Regulations, Cases - A Time to Kill
-250 is 101
I'm thinking 100 Philosophy & Psychology - Everything I Needed to Know about Being a Girl I Learned from Judy Blume (Okay at first glance I know this doesn't look like philosophy but its a series of stories written by woman who talk about their life's journeys. I think that qualifies. PJReads, does that qualify?)
OR 098 Prohibited Works for which I will read Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret
Either way I wants me some Blume"
Yes for both
348 is 351-3, but the 349-353 range is Law and A Time to Kill is fiction -- so it's okay.
I'll accept Judy Blume as an expert on both Philosophy and Psychology -- enjoy!
Nicki wrote: "Help!"Hi Nicki. There is this really cool book called: Shop Class as Soulcraft An Inquiry Into the Value of Work by Matthew B. Crawford. It is nonfiction and I think it would totally fit. Here's a bit of a description:
"Philosopher and motorcycle repair-shop owner Crawford extols the value of making and fixing things in this masterful paean to what he calls manual competence, the ability to work with one's hands. According to the author, our alienation from how our possessions are made and how they work takes many forms: the decline of shop class, the design of goods whose workings cannot be accessed by users (such as recent Mercedes models built without oil dipsticks) and the general disdain with which we regard the trades in our emerging information economy. Unlike todays knowledge worker, whose work is often so abstract that standards of excellence cannot exist in many fields (consider corporate executives awarded bonuses as their companies sink into bankruptcy), the person who works with his or her hands submits to standards inherent in the work itself: the lights either turn on or they don't, the toilet flushes or it doesn't, the motorcycle roars or sputters. With wit and humour, the author deftly mixes the details of his own experience as a tradesman and then proprietor of a motorcycle repair shop with more philosophical considerations."
As far a blacksmithing options, maybe The Blacksmith's Daughter or The Blacksmith. I haven't read either so can't endorse them for you. As for nonfiction blacksmithing books, my husband actually does artistic blacksmithing and he says all of the nonfiction books are pretty dry and are generally instructional/how-to's for making your own forge and tools, etc. For someone not deeply interested in the craft, it might be a slog. Just his 2 cents worth.
Oohhh! Check Great Expectations by Charles Dickens ~ "It recounts the development of the character of the narrator, Philip Pirrip, commonly known as ‘Pip’, a village boy brought up by his termagant sister, the wife of the gentle, humorous, kindly blacksmith Joe Gargery. (Spoilers removed, in case you haven't read it.)
I love this task! I'm still not sure I'm doing it right, though...Does this work?If we can use any 5* read on our goodreads list, I would like to use Death The Time of Your Life which is 96 pages.
096 is Rare Books/Books notable for illustrations. Then going back 250 places (+/- 2) could put me at 843: French Fiction.
So, if this is right, could I read any fiction book notable for its illustrations (100+ pages) and a work of French fiction? If so, would a graphic novel work for the first half?
Kristina wrote: "I love this task! I'm still not sure I'm doing it right, though...Does this work?If we can use any 5* read on our goodreads list, I would like to use Death The Time of Your Life whi...
So, if this is right, could I read any fiction book notable for its illustrations (100+ pages) and a work of French fiction? If so, would a graphic novel work for the first half?"
Yes ... That's a great idea for 096. I was disappointed that the local library didn't have any 096 books. Now there are so many choices!
Yay!! Thanks for that...I sense an excuse to splurge on a pretty book :D
ok, HELP! Here is my gotta868 Spanish miscellaneous writings
869 Portuguese literature
870 Italic literatures; Latin literature
871 Latin poetry
872 Latin dramatic poetry & drama
Then I can do These
618 Gynecology, obstetrics, pediatrics & geriatrics
620 Engineering & allied operations
621 Applied physics
622 Mining & related operations
Or These
120 Epistemology, causation & humankind
121 Epistemology
122 Causation
123 Determinism & indeterminism
124 Teleology
Any Ideas?
Jessy wrote: "ok, HELP! Here is my gotta868 Spanish miscellaneous writings
869 Portuguese literature
870 Italic literatures; Latin literature
871 Latin poetry
872 Latin dramatic poetry & drama
Then I can do Th..."
I'll look for some specific books tomorrow. For now ...
868 fiction translated from Spanish
869 fiction translated from Portuguese
870-872 Are you interested in anything originally written in Latin?
618 fiction about pregnancy, motherhood, girl coming-of-age*, illness in old age
*Carrie by Stephen King
and Suzette Haden Elgin's trilogy
Native Tongue
Earthsong
The Judas Rose Native Tongue II
are fiction with girls coming-of-age physically as well as emotionally.
121 Epistemology is the study of knowledge and knowing and one of the books listed in the NYC Public Library catalogue is other minds. You can stretch this to fiction with ESP and wizards.
122 Causation -- also can be stretched to fiction with magic.
123 Determinism & indeterminism includes luck and free will. Lots of possibilities for fiction where luck or choice plays a role.
Let me know if any of these ideas are appealing and other genres you like that you haven't entered in your GR lists yet.
As far as the translated stuff...no preferences there.With the other stuff, something with ESP or Wizards would be good. Would The Light Fantastic work? It is about "the hero happens to be the singularly inept wizard Rincewind"
Jessy wrote: "As far as the translated stuff...no preferences there.With the other stuff, something with ESP or Wizards would be good. Would The Light Fantastic work? It is about "the hero happens..."
Yes -- The Light Fantastic fits better than some others would -- enjoy Discworld!
Note: A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K. LeGuin would fit especially well.
Jessy wrote: "As far as the translated stuff...no preferences there...."
One way to approach 872 Latin dramatic poetry & drama is to read Shakespeare who was influenced by Ovid, Plautus, Seneca and Plutarch.
Ovid - Midsummer Night’s Dream
Plautus – A Comedy of Errors
Seneca influenced the tragedies, especially Hamlet and Macbeth
Plutarch – Coriolanus, Julius Caesar, Antony & Cleopatra
868 Spanish miscellaneous writings
Like Water for Chocolate A Novel in Monthly Installments with Recipes, Romances, and Home Remedies
The Witch of Portobello
In the Time of the Butterflies
many books by
869 Portuguese literature
Epitaph of a Small Winner
Near to the Wild Heart
Jessy wrote: "As far as the translated stuff...no preferences there..."For 870 Italic literatures, here's a list from Fall Challenge task 15.5
message by Liz:
Books originally written in Italian:
A Ghost at Noon
As a Man Grows Older
Bebo's Girl
Christ Stopped at Eboli
Declares Pereira
Disobedience
Foucault's Pendulum
If Not Now, When?
If on a Winter's Night a Traveler
If this is a Man
In Sicily
Invisible Cities
One, None and a Hundred Thousand
Silk
The Betrothed
The Castle of Crossed Destinies
The Drowned and the Saved
The Garden Of The Finzi-Continis
The Harvesters
The House by the Medlar Tree
The Leopard
The Life of Christ
The Moon and the Bonfire
The Name of the Rose
The Path to the Nest of Spiders
The Ragazzi
The Tartar Steppe
The Tiger of Momopracem
The Time of Indifference
The Viceroys
To Each His Own
Troubling Love
Zeno's Conscience
The Child of Pleasure
Plus:
The Shape of Water
I'm Not Scared
I'll Steal You Away
Thank you so much for all your help! I have decided what I am going to do! THANKS!!!
Pjreads,Can I read Kindred for slavery (DDC326)?
Also, could I read Oryx and Crake for genetics (DDC576)?
Thanks for your help!
Sara☺ wrote: "Pjreads,Can I read Kindred for slavery (DDC326)?
Also, could I read Oryx and Crake for genetics (DDC576)?
Thanks for your help!"
Yes ... Oryx and Crake is a great book and I added Kindred to my TBR shelf. Thanks!
pjreads wrote: "Sara☺ wrote: "Pjreads,Can I read Kindred for slavery (DDC326)?
Also, could I read Oryx and Crake for genetics (DDC576)?
Thanks for your help!"
Thanks !! I am glad I found 2 books to work!
Yes ... Oryx and ..."
Hi PJ!
I am trying to narrow down my choices for this cool task! One of my categories is 227 - Epistles. Now, the context is the Bible category, but I am wondering if you would accept an epistolary novel, as Epistles are letters??
:)
Jennifer wrote: "Hi PJ!
I am trying to narrow down my choices for this cool task! One of my categories is 227 - Epistles. Now, the context is the Bible category, but I am wondering if you would accept an epistola..."
I've been interpreting "related to" very loosely for fiction, so I'll accept that.
pjreads wrote: "I've been interpreting "related to" very loosely for fiction, so I'll accept that. "Woohoo!! (Does little party dance!)
Thanks PJ. :)
Please check if I'm correct.My book Twilight has 384 pages
384 - Communication, Telecommunication
385 - Railroad Transportation
First book: I plan to read The Christmas Train by David Baldacci.
Second book, forward 250 = 634
634 - Orchards, Fruit, Forestry
635 - Garden Crops
So I plan to read Garden Spells which my friends talked highly about. Hope these are ok.
Night wrote: "Please check if I'm correct.My book Twilight has 384 pages
384 - Communication, Telecommunication
385 - Railroad Transportation
First book: I plan to read The Christmas Train ...
Second book, forward 250 = 634
634 - Orchards, Fruit, Forestry
635 - Garden Crops
So I plan to read Garden Spells which my friends talked highly about. Hope these are ok."
Yes -- you choices sound captivating.
(couple of typos: 684 s/b 634 and 685 s/b 635)
Is this okay?Circus of the Damned has 336 pages
335 Socialism - The Grapes of Wrath
Back 250 = 136
135 Dreams - Wake
Does anyone have fiction suggestions for one of the following?302 Social interaction
303 Social processes
304 Factors affecting social behavior
305 Social groups
306 Culture & institutions
Hi Tanja.That section was one of my options too...some things I came up with would be (for 306) a book that involves a museum, art gallery or other 'cultural' event or institution. I would think a book like The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time would work for 302 or, probably more specifically 304. For 305 you could do any book that involves a club, like The Jane Austen Book Club or The Friday Night Knitting Club. I haven't looked at your books, so not sure of your tastes, but with hope this gives you some examples to get you going.
:)
Pollyanna wrote: "Is this okay?Circus of the Damned has 336 pages
335 Socialism - The Grapes of Wrath
Back 250 = 136
135 Dreams - Wake"
Good news: Yes for 335 The Grapes of Wrath
Bad news: Back 250 from 336 is 86 not 136 so the choices are (+/-2 for 335 or 336):
083 Collections in other Germanic languages
084 Collections in French, Occitan & Catalan
085 In Italian, Romanian & related languages
086 Collections in Spanish & Portuguese
087 Collections in Slavic languages
088 Collections in Scandinavian languages
or forward 250 from 335 / 336
in the Plants categories
583 Dicotyledones
584 Monocotyledones
585 Gymnospermae (Pinophyta)
586 Cryptogamia (Seedless plants)
587 Pteridophyta (Vascular cryptogams)
588 Bryophyta
Do you want some book ideas for these categories or would you rather start with another book for a different page count?
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684 Furnishings & home workshops
Any sugges..."
Nicki - what about
The Book of Air and Shadows which is about book maker for 686. This was a pretty good read.