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The Jumanji Challenge! June 2015 - Sign-ups and Questions
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Jun 25, 2015 09:36AM
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Current Team Scores:
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_39____|__210___|____33,474__|__416.37__|__897
Team A.___|_35____|__218___|____36,091__|__433.45__|__819
Team N.___|_26____|__126___|____25,723__|__280.61__|__679
Team U.___|_20____|__128___|____24,799__|__271.99__|__674
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team I.___|_14____|__122___|____24,482__|__258.41__|__536
Team J.___|_22____|___76___|____22,662__|__211.31__|__414
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__
Team Alan_|_14____|___34___|____13,450__|__115.25__|__
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_39____|__210___|____33,474__|__416.37__|__897
Team A.___|_35____|__218___|____36,091__|__433.45__|__819
Team N.___|_26____|__126___|____25,723__|__280.61__|__679
Team U.___|_20____|__128___|____24,799__|__271.99__|__674
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team I.___|_14____|__122___|____24,482__|__258.41__|__536
Team J.___|_22____|___76___|____22,662__|__211.31__|__414
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__
Team Alan_|_14____|___34___|____13,450__|__115.25__|__
Sarah wrote: "Okay guys, I've been working on this for ages, trying to find a fair way to adjust the points to account for the fact that some teams have members who aren't participating much, and other teams hav..."TY Sarah. I know that must have been hard and time consuming. We appreciate all the hard work you do for the group. ^-^
Heather wrote: "Where could I put Prodigy you guys? Anyone's suggestions would help :)"
by Marie Lu?
Something that flies
fantasy
romance
by Marie Lu?
Something that flies
fantasy
romance
Prodigy could work for set in the future, romance, fantasy, perhaps teammate's initial, something that flies on the cover, trees on the cover (an alternative edition has trees on the background)
Thanks Sarah for the update (: ~ I don't know if you saw, but I read
for orphan section for game #3.
Hey guys? Since you get 2 buddy points if you read a book bigger than 450 pages, could you get a third if you read a book bigger than 900?
Adriana wrote: "Thanks Sarah for the update (: ~ I don't know if you saw, but I read
for orphan section for game #3."
Sorry, it must have gotten missed. I'll fix it ☺
for orphan section for game #3."Sorry, it must have gotten missed. I'll fix it ☺
Sarah how are the points and scores working? Some of us are a little confused about the total points and points adjusted.
The adjusted scores are based on how many books have been read by the team as a whole over the course of the year so far, as some teams have an advantage over others - some people are faster readers, some people are slow readers, and some people have more people in their team, or team members who have read very little. It was the only way I could take all of those things into account. It's nowhere near perfect though.
Berit wrote: "Great job to everybody!A huge THANK YOU!!! Two are amazing moderator SARAH!!!
I'm in a lot of groups, and do a lot of challenges, and nobody else puts in the amount of time she does on this! Most ..."
That's what I love about this group. Thanks Sarah :)
Lindsey wrote: "Sarah how are the points and scores working? Some of us are a little confused about the total points and points adjusted."Hmm I'm a bit confused how Team A got pushed down from first place and Z is now ahead with 80 points (based on 1000=5 points that's like 16k pages ahead now?)
Hey SarahI know I'm stirring the pot but can we get a breakdown of the calculations? If it isn't too much trouble Thanks!
Total scores are calculated based on (pages/200)+buddy points+points earned = total.
Each teams total is then divided by the total number of books read so far this YEAR by each team. I've done it this way rather than dividing by the number of players in each team, because it's fairer than counting someone who maybe only reads 10 books a year, the same as someone who reads 200.
The numbers of books read this year for each team are:
Team J - 510
Team U - 403
Team M - 441
Team A - 529
Team N - 413
Team I - 482
Team Z - 464
Ranked:
Team A - 529
Team J - 510
Team I - 482
Team Z - 464
Team M - 441
Team N - 413
Team U - 403
Originally when I made the teams, I tried to keep this number fairly even, but with changes to teams they have gotten unfairly split. Team A. and Team J. have a massive advantage over say Team U. This has happened so drastically for Team A, because Kysa was replaced with Markus, who has read 100 books more than she had.
So, exact calculations -
Team J = 211.31 / 510 = 0.414 So I removed the 0. to make things simpler = 414
and so on.
The fact that Team Z are ahead of you by 78 points by the adjusted scores doesn't mean that you will have to read 78 more books, or 16,000 pages, because of the way it's been calculated.
Surely you can see though, that a team with members who are able to read lots of books has an advantage over teams who have members who aren't able to read as many books?
I did try adjusting the points based on how many members are in each team, Team Z currently only have 5 team members compared to the other teams 6, but that wasn't fair because it doesn't take into account how fast people on each team read, and there are some fast readers on team z. I did say earlier in the challenge that I might need o divide by the number of people in the teams for exactly that reason. However, when I did the numbers, Team A. came out a lot worse off than doing things this way, which I feel is fairer.
Each teams total is then divided by the total number of books read so far this YEAR by each team. I've done it this way rather than dividing by the number of players in each team, because it's fairer than counting someone who maybe only reads 10 books a year, the same as someone who reads 200.
The numbers of books read this year for each team are:
Team J - 510
Team U - 403
Team M - 441
Team A - 529
Team N - 413
Team I - 482
Team Z - 464
Ranked:
Team A - 529
Team J - 510
Team I - 482
Team Z - 464
Team M - 441
Team N - 413
Team U - 403
Originally when I made the teams, I tried to keep this number fairly even, but with changes to teams they have gotten unfairly split. Team A. and Team J. have a massive advantage over say Team U. This has happened so drastically for Team A, because Kysa was replaced with Markus, who has read 100 books more than she had.
So, exact calculations -
Team J = 211.31 / 510 = 0.414 So I removed the 0. to make things simpler = 414
and so on.
The fact that Team Z are ahead of you by 78 points by the adjusted scores doesn't mean that you will have to read 78 more books, or 16,000 pages, because of the way it's been calculated.
Surely you can see though, that a team with members who are able to read lots of books has an advantage over teams who have members who aren't able to read as many books?
I did try adjusting the points based on how many members are in each team, Team Z currently only have 5 team members compared to the other teams 6, but that wasn't fair because it doesn't take into account how fast people on each team read, and there are some fast readers on team z. I did say earlier in the challenge that I might need o divide by the number of people in the teams for exactly that reason. However, when I did the numbers, Team A. came out a lot worse off than doing things this way, which I feel is fairer.
Thanks for the breakdown Sarah. It's good that we don't have to read 18k pages to get back on top. I will be doing some calculations. Team A might still have a chance :)
The best way to get back on top is to work on completing whole sections and games to get the bonus points. Those bonus points will make a big difference.
Another way to look at it is... if I were to move 1 player from team Judy to Team Z., who has read 60 books, and would therefore make teams A and Z even... Team Z would have 476.41 points total, compared to Team A's 447.04, and that's without any extra bonuses for completing sections.
Current Team Scores:
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__213___|____34,567__|__428.83__|__942
Team A.___|_35____|__220___|____38,409__|__447.04__|__845
Team N.___|_27____|__127___|____26,147__|__284.73__|__689
Team U.___|_20____|__130___|____25,449__|__277.24__|__687
Team I.___|_14____|__141___|____27,839__|__294.19__|__610
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__213___|____34,567__|__428.83__|__942
Team A.___|_35____|__220___|____38,409__|__447.04__|__845
Team N.___|_27____|__127___|____26,147__|__284.73__|__689
Team U.___|_20____|__130___|____25,449__|__277.24__|__687
Team I.___|_14____|__141___|____27,839__|__294.19__|__610
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
Sarah, thanks for explaining that, not that I get it, but that is because I'm not very good at math. Hopefully Christina can figure that out, my only problem is this has never been done before, and it would really have helped out teams I was on in the past., So I guess I'm just thinking why now, why not before? You don't even need to answer that question, I just wanted you to know where I was coming from :-)
I didn't think of it before. Previously I've given points to compensate for missing members, but because of the way this challenge accumulates points, it's not fair to do that. I could give 8 points, but then those 8 points if from an actual player might have completed a section or two, earning more bonus points.
I mean I could have just divided points by the number of people in each team, which I did say about previously, but you'd have been a lot worse off that way.
I mean I could have just divided points by the number of people in each team, which I did say about previously, but you'd have been a lot worse off that way.
If I done it based on number of players, or if I'd added someone to team z, you'd have actually been worse off to be honest.
Current Team Scores:
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__213___|____34,567__|__428.83__|__924
Team A.___|_37____|__221___|____38,937__|__452.68__|__855
Team N.___|_27____|__130___|____27,354__|__293.77__|__711
Team U.___|_20____|__130___|____25,449__|__277.24__|__687
Team I.___|_14____|__141___|____27,839__|__294.19__|__610
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__213___|____34,567__|__428.83__|__924
Team A.___|_37____|__221___|____38,937__|__452.68__|__855
Team N.___|_27____|__130___|____27,354__|__293.77__|__711
Team U.___|_20____|__130___|____25,449__|__277.24__|__687
Team I.___|_14____|__141___|____27,839__|__294.19__|__610
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
Current Team Scores:
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__215___|____35,118__|__433.59__|__934
Team A.___|_37____|__221___|____38,937__|__452.68__|__855
Team N.___|_28____|__131___|____27,642__|__297.21__|__719
Team U.___|_20____|__131___|____25,833__|__280.16__|__695
Team I.___|_14____|__142___|____28,143__|__296.71__|__615
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__215___|____35,118__|__433.59__|__934
Team A.___|_37____|__221___|____38,937__|__452.68__|__855
Team N.___|_28____|__131___|____27,642__|__297.21__|__719
Team U.___|_20____|__131___|____25,833__|__280.16__|__695
Team I.___|_14____|__142___|____28,143__|__296.71__|__615
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
Current Team Scores:
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__215___|____35,118__|__433.59__|__934
Team A.___|_37____|__232___|____39,259__|__465.29__|__879
Team N.___|_30____|__132___|____28,218__|__303.09__|__733
Team U.___|_20____|__132___|____25,933__|__281.66__|__698
Team I.___|_14____|__142___|____28,143__|__296.71__|__615
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__215___|____35,118__|__433.59__|__934
Team A.___|_37____|__232___|____39,259__|__465.29__|__879
Team N.___|_30____|__132___|____28,218__|__303.09__|__733
Team U.___|_20____|__132___|____25,933__|__281.66__|__698
Team I.___|_14____|__142___|____28,143__|__296.71__|__615
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241
Current Team Scores:
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__218___|____36,528__|__443.64__|__956
Team A.___|_40____|__236___|____41,230__|__482.15__|__911
Team N.___|_30____|__132___|____28,218__|__303.09__|__733
Team U.___|_20____|__133___|____26,547__|__285.73__|__709
Team I.___|_14____|__149___|____30,123__|__313.61__|__650
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team J.___|_23____|___97___|____25,714__|__248.57__|__487
Team Judy_|_38____|__149___|____33,120__|__352.60__|__417
Team Alan_|_14____|___36___|____13,948 __|__119.74__|__300
__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted
Team Z.___|_43____|__218___|____36,528__|__443.64__|__956
Team A.___|_40____|__236___|____41,230__|__482.15__|__911
Team N.___|_30____|__132___|____28,218__|__303.09__|__733
Team U.___|_20____|__133___|____26,547__|__285.73__|__709
Team I.___|_14____|__149___|____30,123__|__313.61__|__650
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team J.___|_23____|___97___|____25,714__|__248.57__|__487
Team Judy_|_38____|__149___|____33,120__|__352.60__|__417
Team Alan_|_14____|___36___|____13,948 __|__119.74__|__300
Wow dude. This is one heck of a game! I've been enjoying a lot while cleaning off my to-read list. Just wanted to say thanks Sarah, it's really appreciative the work you put in there! :)
Thanks Sarah for so much with this challenge.
so I believe that I just have to read
for romance than I would have completed each description. Once I finish that can reread some of the descriptions to help my team more?
so I believe that I just have to read
for romance than I would have completed each description. Once I finish that can reread some of the descriptions to help my team more?
Sarah wrote: "I haven't got you down as reading a horror book yet, have I missed that one?"
Just submitted it. Was writing the review.
Just submitted it. Was writing the review.
Lindsay, I need to give you mass props, being able to do so many buddy reads to fit the descriptions! Very impressive!!!However, I wouldn't mind if you stopped reading about now ;-)
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