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The first thing I do when I start to edit is to do a search to check my usage of "it's" and "its," along with several other problem words that might get overlooked in the heat of writing the first draft.

Quoleena I don't know if it would correct the quotes or not, but I have the issue where occasionally I get straight quotes on copied text, so I just do a replace " with " and ' with ' to fix those.

Yes! Unfortunately even my copy of The Subversive Copy Editor: Advice from Chicago, (great book, by the way) has no better solutions! It sucks to go back and change them all, but you can use the find feature to locate them, and the replace feature to switch it to the curly quote. The add-two-erase-one method, however, is still fastest for making it face the right way.
When trying to add a backwards apostrophe curly quote, I find Word annoying. To do that, I play around a bit. Let's say, Tis a fine thing ye be sayin, just copy the right single curly quote after sayin, and place it before the Tis, like ’Tis a fine thing ye be sayin’. Word sucks for some things. I like to use the em dashes, so I have to place it on a notepad so I can copy and include it. (I know, you can go to insert>special characters, but that takes too much time.)
Morris
Morris


That seems like it would be quite slow and tedious. The search method is quick, but I want to do it as I type without having to type a letter just to erase it. I guess unless Word tweaks that, my two current methods are my only options. Ah well.

Since there's not supposed to be spaces around the em dash, it's actually simple to include them. Type the last letter of a word then type two dashes with no spaces, then begin the next word, and Word will convert the double dash into an em dash. (Abcde--abcde.) To do it at the end of a quote to indicate someone being cut off, you'll have to add a letter or two before typing the end quote, then erase those random letters. Another quirky Word thing in that it only converts the double dash between letters.

Then, when I'm ready to publish, I go back to the settings and turn ONLY auto-curly apostraphe/quotes back on. Finally, I do a find/replace for ' to replace with ' and " to replace with " (yes, the same character). That way, the auto-formatter should format all the apostraphes and quotes with the proper curly marks.

Bottom line: NEVER have auto-formatting enabled in Word.
You know, I don't have a Mac and I tried the "alt-0150" and it really doesn't work. Doesn't matter, though. If I had a mind to it, I could put -- every time I wanted an emdash, and when I was ready to finish the document. replace all -- with —. Replace all is the finest all-purpose editing tool there is. I use it more than anything else, because I create my books in Word, but also create my eBooks in notepad by hand. Rule of thumb—what you do to one, you have to do to the other.
Morris
Morris

Dunno. I tried it. Doesn't work.
Morris
Morris


There was a thread on this issue elsewhere, on which the best idea I saw (from Ken?) was to type the quote twice -- the second one will point the right way. Then delete the first. I've found that to be faster (for me) than doing a search & replace.
Now I see that is mentioned in #7 so I'll endorse it.

Did you type the hyphen? Personally I use auto-correct to convert -- to alt 0151. (I use auto-correct a lot.)
Morris wrote: "You know, I don't have a Mac and I tried the "alt-0150" and it really doesn't work. Doesn't matter, though. If I had a mind to it, I could put -- every time I wanted an emdash, and when I was ready..."
I don't have a Mac, either, and alt 0150/0151 works for me. It appears that 0150 is the en-dash–, and 0151 is the em-dash—. Together: –—
I don't have a Mac, either, and alt 0150/0151 works for me. It appears that 0150 is the en-dash–, and 0151 is the em-dash—. Together: –—
Owen wrote: "There was a thread on this issue elsewhere, on which the best idea I saw (from Ken?) was to type the quote twice -- the second one will point the right way. Then delete the first. I've found that to be faster (for me) than doing a search & replace...."
Yes, that's the way I do it.
Yes, that's the way I do it.

P.D. wrote: "For the alt-0150 trick on the PC, you have to type the numbers on the number pad, not the top row of numbers on the keyboard. So if you are using a laptop, you have to turn on num lock or press the..."
You're right. I never noticed that. On the other hand, I rarely use the top-row numbers.
You're right. I never noticed that. On the other hand, I rarely use the top-row numbers.