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message 1: by ij (last edited Apr 20, 2015 11:57AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

ij (ijanderson) | 65 comments This hardback book has 557 pages.

isbn: 0-7434-9030-4


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ij (ijanderson) | 65 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."

sorry isbn: 0-7434-9030-4


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Empress (the_empress) Ij wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."

sorry isbn: 0-7434-9030-4"


I am actually seeing another librarian changing the page numbers from '576' to '385' and he has left note that he has taken the pages from his on copy of the book. Can you confirm that the publishing details for your copy are as follows: September 2nd 2003 by Atria Books

Also does the page count that you are giving include any of the following:
advertisements and preview chapters for other books; acknowledgments, afterwords, appendices, bibliographies, glossaries, indexes, notes, and suggested discussion questions.


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ij (ijanderson) | 65 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ij wrote: "Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."

sorry isbn: 0-7434-9030-4"

I am actually seeing another librar..."


"First Atria Books hardcover edition September 2003" It does not say, September 2nd 2003. Page 557 is the last page of chapter 132. There is an one page epilogue after page 557, which is not numbered in the book.


message 6: by Empress (last edited Apr 20, 2015 02:46PM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) Ij wrote: ""First Atria Books hardcover edition September 2003" It does not say, September 2nd 2003. Page 557 is the last page of chapter 132. There is an one page epilogue after page 557, which is not numbered in the book. "

Yes, that is consistent with http://www.worldcat.org/title/decepti...

Although I am quite hesitant to do the change I am adding 557 pages. I send a personal massage to the librarian that has initially changed the pages to 385 to get his opinion on this. After he replies I might get another librarian to advise if we should revert the changes and add another edition or keep it.


message 7: by Empress (last edited Apr 20, 2015 02:53PM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) Okay, it seems this edition has changed.

it used to be: published 2003, 2nd of Sep, 557 pages.
Librarian 1 changed it to published 2001 pages 385,
librarian 2: reversed publishing dates but left the pages unchanged
Publisher website: http://books.simonandschuster.biz/Dec... (Atria is the imprint - http://imprints.simonandschuster.biz/... )

My conclusion is the the reverse of the page count (done by me) should stay.

Let me know if I am missing something or done a mistake.


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ij (ijanderson) | 65 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ij wrote: ""First Atria Books hardcover edition September 2003" It does not say, September 2nd 2003. Page 557 is the last page of chapter 132. There is an one page epilogue after page 557, which is..."

I have no reason to give the wrong number of pages. This amazon link says that the September 2nd edition has over 570 pages:

http://www.amazon.com/Deception-Point...


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ij (ijanderson) | 65 comments Ellie [The Empress] wrote: "Ij wrote: ""First Atria Books hardcover edition September 2003" It does not say, September 2nd 2003. Page 557 is the last page of chapter 132. There is an one page epilogue after page 557, which is..."

Thanks for making the change. This is the first time I have had this type of problem.


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lethe | 16359 comments @Ellie
Yes, I think that first librarian had a totally different edition. I was also quite surprised by all the image uploads Amazon had done for this edition.


message 11: by Empress (last edited Apr 20, 2015 03:07PM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) It is not a problem, nor do I think you are lying. I was just trying to figure out why the difference in page numbers. I am leaving all the links to sources here in case in a year from now someone else decides to change the page count for the edition or to argue my edit.

Also sometimes books will be republished with different page count, which means we need to add another edition but it might be difficult establishing it sometimes. In might lead to constant swap change from people/librarians that own the book. Another scenario I'm trying to avoid.


message 12: by Empress (last edited Apr 20, 2015 03:15PM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) lethe wrote: "@Ellie
Yes, I think that first librarian had a totally different edition. I was also quite surprised by all the image uploads Amazon had done for this edition."


Yes, I don't know if this part of the script has been fixed but since amazon and other scripts used to over-write librarian data, now if a data has been edited by a person a script cannot over-write it. It was a constant windmill battle.
But this image uploading seems quite recent. Reported: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


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