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Started this today, and I've made it to Chapter 17.
I like it so far, the idea of her mom as a bird is very uplifting, but it's definitely a morose book. I hope the tone picks up over time...
I like it so far, the idea of her mom as a bird is very uplifting, but it's definitely a morose book. I hope the tone picks up over time...

Ok, I've (finally) finished and I posted my review - it was.... something.
I didn't hate it, but I'm going to wait and see what others might comment on before expressing more.
I didn't hate it, but I'm going to wait and see what others might comment on before expressing more.

Initial non-spoiler thoughts:
Easy, fast reading
Beautiful writing
Annoying colors all over the place
Confusing and oddball story references, not sure where it's going
Beyond me cultural food I'm not familiar with

The mom's depression was hard to witness with the highs and lows, and her friends were... unique. I especially was into the backstory in the states, but the dream imagery and a lot with the bird and Taiwan lost me at times. Still, a good book on exploring the complexities and scopes of grief. It reminds me of my friend's mother dying last year a bit. she texted me that week she had so many new birds suddenly all over outside her house and she felt it was something with her mom.

At the end of this book (this isn't a spoiler), in author afterword she says they are trying to change the wording to no longer say "commited suicide" as it can feel like too much blame/crime, and now terminology has changed to died from suicide. I had never heard of this before but it's interesting and makes sense.
Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* wrote: "At the end of this book (this isn't a spoiler), in author afterword she says they are trying to change the wording to no longer say "commited suicide" as it can feel like too much blame/crime, and now terminology has changed to died from suicide. I had never heard of this before but it's interesting and makes sense."
I think this is GREAT! I've never understood the criminality that is applied to suicide. It's heartless and just awful.
I think this is GREAT! I've never understood the criminality that is applied to suicide. It's heartless and just awful.
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I agree! I had never thought of the wording before on "committing" like a crime, which technically it is in some states, so I do agree changing the termiology makes sense for grieving family members makes sense, just not something I had actually thought of!
Speaking of, I had just commented a few days ago on a post on people being overmedicated on X, different topic, and a mother stated her son who was fine developed an addiction to certain meds as a high functioner to make it through college, ended up suicidal and baker acted, then committed suicide. Very sad, she shared a picture of her son, who was gorgeous and so young. I expressed condolescenes, she appreciated it with, "Thank you. Yeah. Its sometimes to very hard to believe it’s real. Esp since he didn’t have any problems before. Completely normal and happy.", and some ANNOYING person then responded, "He probably wasn't normal. You might've unknowingly dismissed the signs."
People are SOOO unhelpful :( She hasn't responded to that person's comment yet, hopefully she just ignores it.
https://x.com/x_audible/status/189060...
Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* wrote: "Ashley wrote: "I think this is GREAT! I've never understood the criminality that is applied to suicide. It's heartless and just awful.
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I agree! I had never thought of the wording before on "comm..."
Yikes! People are... icky.
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I agree! I had never thought of the wording before on "comm..."
Yikes! People are... icky.

While this book is based on an uncomfortable topic, I really like it so far. It follows a girl, Leigh, whose mother has died by suicide, and she is determined to find out why her mother committed suicide.
It is about finding family across the world, family despite a language barrier.
It emphasizes how important memories are, and how our memories remind us how to live and make us who we are.
Leigh uses color to describe her emotions and everything around her, she sees feelings in colors. I did not know what about synesthesia until I recently read a book for a challenge task requiring about this.

Pears and brie would be OK, but leave out the peanut butter!

I don't like pears either. I feel like I should like them. But then I bite into one, and remember that I just don't.
Brie is delicious ...
Brie is delicious ...

I'll admit, I didn't get it. I was lost, struggling and in a daze through a lot of this book. There was just to much happening, on top of the magical realism and synesthesia. Despite the multiple issues, nothing was really ever resolved as the plot was almost non-existent.
The pacing was slow, so slow that I got bored. When I get to that point, I lose all concern and care for the characters, not that I ever really connected with any of them anyway. The chapters about Leigh and her boyfriend, well those contributed nothing and could've been eliminated--UGGHHH! The way Leigh's father acted, leaving her with the grandparents,well it was no wonder she was a rude,ungrateful, disrespectful snotty acting little brat. I've always been told, the
It took me several days to muddle through all these disjointed random thoughts and no matter how hard I tried to make something of it, I still came out empty handed! I read a lot of YA/MG and there's a lot better books out there tackling these same issues. I had hoped for a meaningful read about mental health and suicide but I got a sappy whiny teen romance instead. IF I had of known it was a romance, I would've left it alone. Man...I'm as bitter as a persimmon!
I'm still confused about the bird nonsense. Was that just an idea Leigh came up with? A coping mechanism? A hallucination? A dream? A way to communicate with her mother? A way to release her fear and anger to deal with death? After death, individuals seek closure, was this her means of closure? Reality, the bird didn't exist, but I know I was reminded of the bird every few pages and I still don't get it....YIKES!
Would I recommend this one? No, I rated it one star.


I like all three ingredients but I don't think I want them put together on a sandwich.
One thing that caught my attention, was Leigh's mom didn't like ice cream. WHAT??? who doesn't like ice cream? I get maybe not liking certain flavors, but not liking ice cream period. UMMM not believable. That ended up being one activity she was able to do with just her dad. Haagen Daz was their ice cream of choice.
Haha! Robin your review is so relatable.
What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!
What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!

It was a long book, but definitely worth the read.
I found it interesting that with all of the color in Leigh's life & how she sees it, that see draws in charcoal only.
Two quotes that stuck with me:
▪️Believing is a type of magic. It can make something true.
▪️The purpose of memory is to remind us to live.

What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!"
LOL Ashley! I kept thinking at some point something would draw me in, clear things up and change my mind--it just didn't. I just kept getting more and more confused. It's ok. I tried. Not every book is for every reader.
Not all of these deal with suicide but they do deal with mental health issues. I would recommend:
1. Speak--I rated it 5 stars and have read it multiple times
2. Go Ask Alice
3. Jay's Journal
4. Wintergirls--although this one isn't a favorite it's better than the one we read.
5. Twisted
6. If I Was Your Girl--mental health issues--one of my all time favorite books--I just re-read it.
7. Darius the Great Is Not Okay
8. Bruiser--this one deals with emotional pain which often leads up to mental health issues/suicide etc
9. The List of Things That Will Not Change
10. The Sea in Winter
11. Fighting Words
12. Counting by 7s
13. Lily and Dunkin













I think the magical realism and the romance was a big distraction for me in this book. A lot of what was going and trying to keep up with it all was just confusing! At least I read it and I tried--I just couldn't LOL
Robin (Saturndoo) wrote: "Ashley wrote: "Haha! Robin your review is so relatable.
What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!"
LOL Ashley! I kept t..."
I just picked up Speak from BookOutlet (waiting on my delivery!)
What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!"
LOL Ashley! I kept t..."
I just picked up Speak from BookOutlet (waiting on my delivery!)
Robin (Saturndoo) wrote: "I think the magical realism and the romance was a big distraction for me in this book. A lot of what was going and trying to keep up with it all was just confusing! At least I read it and I tried--I just couldn't LOL"
I think this so true!
I think this so true!
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Robin (Saturndoo) wrote: "Ashley wrote: "Haha! Robin your review is so relatable.
What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!"
LOL Ashley! I kept t..."
I'm sorry, but I just need to bring up the fact that Jay's Journal is essentially Satanic Panic more than a book about a depressed teen, and is not fully based on the real "Jay" or his real diaries (Alden Niel Barrett, died 1971). The author wrote with an agenda and she only used a small portion of his actual diaries, and in the process destroyed "Jay"'s family in their community. This was written by the brother of the teen who Jay was allegedly based on:
, seems hard to find.
I'm pretty sure there is some controversy over her version of Go Ask Alice, as well. I personally would not recommend anything by that author, as she has no credibility.
What recommendations do you have for a book or books that do a better job at discussing these issues? I'm interested!"
LOL Ashley! I kept t..."
I'm sorry, but I just need to bring up the fact that Jay's Journal is essentially Satanic Panic more than a book about a depressed teen, and is not fully based on the real "Jay" or his real diaries (Alden Niel Barrett, died 1971). The author wrote with an agenda and she only used a small portion of his actual diaries, and in the process destroyed "Jay"'s family in their community. This was written by the brother of the teen who Jay was allegedly based on:

I'm pretty sure there is some controversy over her version of Go Ask Alice, as well. I personally would not recommend anything by that author, as she has no credibility.

Haven't heard of the Jay's journal thing
Speak is very good!
Interesting Teresa! - I have never even heard of the author, so I did a (VERY TINY) amount of searching.
The consensus seems to be that Beatrice Sparks' broader body of works are more about pushing sensationalist, agenda-driven narratives than providing authentic insights into teenage struggles.
I'm assuming this would also have the potential to cause harm to the families of the individuals whose stories were exploited in the process.
The consensus seems to be that Beatrice Sparks' broader body of works are more about pushing sensationalist, agenda-driven narratives than providing authentic insights into teenage struggles.
I'm assuming this would also have the potential to cause harm to the families of the individuals whose stories were exploited in the process.
Ashley wrote: "Interesting Teresa! - I have never even heard of the author, so I did a (VERY TINY) amount of searching.
The consensus seems to be that Beatrice Sparks' broader body of works are more about pushin..."
Yes, exactly all of that, Ashley! Great way to summarize it/her/the controversies.
The consensus seems to be that Beatrice Sparks' broader body of works are more about pushin..."
Yes, exactly all of that, Ashley! Great way to summarize it/her/the controversies.
Books mentioned in this topic
A Place in the Sun: The Truth Behind Jay's Journal (other topics)Speak (other topics)
Go Ask Alice (other topics)
Jay's Journal (other topics)
Wintergirls (other topics)
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The Astonishing Color of After by Emily X.R. Pan
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