Should Some Books be Banned? If So, Which Ones?

[Hazel (my girlfriend's version)]

V3NUS_ (AKA olivia) {BIG HIATUS!!} wrote: "smut books are fine, but when it crosses into CP or other vile shit like that, that's where i draw the line
basically books sexualizing kids/animals should be banned.."

Agreed. Btw CP isn't the correct term, its CSAM (child sexual abuse material). Just letting you know <3

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Syd wrote: "Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyone take in something that harms them? I’ll come back later and expand ..."

i believe porn should be restricted for minors, since their brains are still developing and could be harmed more (im pretty sure this is true, if you have evidence against this i'm happy to listen) and there should be plenty of education around the positive and negative effects of porn. but if i want to read or watch porn, then it is my right to enjoy it. i can make my own decisions, whether good or bad (all these rights are assuming i'm an adult). porn might be harmful. and you should be advised against it. but it's harmful only to ourselves. it's still our right to have it.

edit: i'm not actually an adult lol

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version) wrote: "Instead of banning the books completely, we should offer help for addicts and encourage safe behavior with those books."

agreed!

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version) wrote: "Syd wrote: "Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyone take in something that harms them? I’ll come back later and expand ..."

Then it should be controlled and people with addictions should have access to help. Banning potentially harmful books entirely isn't the answer."

agreed again lol

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "i was part of an organization, that was basically teens helping other teens with mental health issues, and one of the things that many of the teen girls brought up to me when we would talk, is that..."

that's a really fair point. but is the solution to ban those books? or to fund organizations like that one that provide genuine mental help? smut affects different people differently, i've read a lot of it and i don't think it has impacted me much, but i can't say the same for others. again, the solution isn't to ban everything we don't like, it's to increase awareness and support.

[Kacper]

Porn is already restricted for minors sai

[Autumn]

Not really. I know school libraries can't keep books with smut, but public libraries can, because they have adult sections. And minors can read and check books out from adult sections. So it's restricted to some extent, but not completely.

[Syd]

Autumn wrote: "Not really. I know school libraries can't keep books with smut, but public libraries can, because they have adult sections. And minors can read and check books out from adult sections. So it's rest..."

that's not true. I've been to public schools and they allow books with smut, I've looked at them myself. I guess we shouldn't ban these books with smut, but we shouldn't allow children to read them.

[minnie.]

I think books should not be banned. People should be able to read whatever they want, and books raise awareness about topics. but of course, restrictions reasonable should be allowed. age regulations for example, like a 3rd grader should not be reading smut but adults can read it if they want.

[Hazel (my girlfriend's version)]

To answer the topic title/question (Which I haven’t fully done before lmao), some books should be banned (with content such as CSAM) for obvious reasons. Books with smut or dark romance books shouldn’t be banned -Just because some people are uncomfortable with reading about sex, doesn’t mean it should be restricted for everyone. People can read what they want to read.

[Autumn]

Syd wrote: "Autumn wrote: "Not really. I know school libraries can't keep books with smut, but public libraries can, because they have adult sections. And minors can read and check books out from adult section..."

yeah my school still has some but it's technically not supposed to, and I think there's also been a crackdown on it where I live this year.

[Kacper]

Age regulation mean nothing minnie. I see 10 years old kids play to video games +18

[Syd]

Kacper wrote: "Age regulation mean nothing minnie. I see 10 years old kids play to video games +18"

that's the point. There SHOULD be age regulation. A 10 years SHOULD NOT be playing games that are for adults. A child's brain is still developing and watching/reading/playing anything that is not for their age range could harm them.

[Syd]

I agree with what everyone else is saying. There should definitely be age regulation and even though I think reading smut or other topics isn't good, I can't force people not to read it. So no banning books completely isn't the solution, but there should be more restrictions for age groups.

[Kacper]

Yeah but you also have to be updated in the ultra-connected world we living in. If you forbid your child something, they will find an alternative.

[V3NUS_ (AKA olivia) {BIG HIATUS!!}]

Kacper wrote: "Age regulation mean nothing minnie. I see 10 years old kids play to video games +18"

you're an adult. you should try to be a decent human being and not let ten year olds play porn/adult games

[Syd]

Kacper wrote: "Yeah but you also have to be updated in the ultra-connected world we living in. If you forbid your child something, they will find an alternative."

um that's why you need to teach your children good alternatives. I guess we should just let people do bad things because well if they don't then they're gonna do worse. Sorry but that's not how the world works. We should not allow young children to look at media that isn't appropriate for them.

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Kacper wrote: "Yeah but you also have to be updated in the ultra-connected world we living in. If you forbid your child something, they will find an alternative."

good point. but like syd said, we can encourage good parenting methods. if parents are shown how to actually raise kids, there would be less issues like these. the main reason why kids are so good at evading their parents is because they're fed up with their arbitrary solutions and bad parenting.

[maya ۶ৎ⋆.]

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haha

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Sai :) wrote: "Syd wrote: "Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyone take in something that harms them? I’ll come back later..."

yes thats what im trying to say! minors should not have it in their books because our brains are not fully developed yet. Its ok in adult books, but why put it in YA books

[victoria]

no matter how much you restrict it, they’re going to find it anyway. book banning isn’t a solution. i do believe explicit things should be accessibly marked to avoid the whole children reading ice breaker thing again but at the end of the day it’s really on the parents for not doing their research

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

random question, does anyone have a reason why children over, say, 12 should not have access to pornographic books in moderation?
This is NOT me disagreeing, this is a question.

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "Syd wrote: "Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyone take in something that harms them? I’ll ..."

they shouldn't, but it shouldn't be banned because of that
books are more than their smut

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Sai :) wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "Syd wrote: "Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyon..."

they should just be more closely monitered

[victoria]

@tessie
it promotes aggression against/the objectification of women and it’s more likely to lead to addiction if they have access to it at a younger age. also depending on the content it could normalize sexual violence

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

as someone who had read all kinds of smut (i mean ALL KINDS) it doesn't necessarily promote objectification. it depends a lot on the author. you'd be surprised how much depth and character development can be there in smut. yes, i'm being serious. and in all honesty, especially considering most romance authors are straight women, or at least most bestselling ones, men are also SIGNIFICANTLY objectified a lot of the time. but again, it really depends on the author and the book. i do believe in slight restriction for minors and encouraging people to read other things but all books are incredibly eye-opening, no mater whether you criticize them or love them. they are more than their smut and are honestly so valuable. we should not use generalizations to ban books. in the name of banning smut you will also ban the unique perspectives and experiences each book has to bring.