Should Some Books be Banned? If So, Which Ones?

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming them into walls isn't literal, any person with reading comprehension understands they don't mean slamming them into a wall with the intent to cause harm or even causing harm at all, it's pressing them into a wall to get closer as a display of passion. That would not be considered unhealthy.
Also any form of sex outside of rape is natural, because your definition of 'natural' sex isn't the same as everybody else's, and again cannot be used to enforce a law.
Have you actually read these books?

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming them into walls isn't literal, any person with reading comprehension understands they don't mean slamming them into ..."

yes yes i have
books like twisted love, daddy from flames amd other omes

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

Ava I'm not really seeing your argument. We disproved your main points already.

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version) wrote: "Ava I'm not really seeing your argument. We disproved your main points already."

how so?
please, do explain how you disproved my points?

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming them into walls isn't literal, any person with reading comprehension understands they don't mean slam..."

And you disliked them?

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming them into walls isn't literal, any person with reading comp..."

yes because the whole plot revolved around (pardon my languge)
the urge to f*ck each other.

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version) wrote: "Ava I'm not really seeing your argument. We disproved your main points already."

how so?
please, do explain how you disproved my points?"

Because your point was that they encouraged addiction, which i proved isn't true, or that they normalized harmful sexual behavior, which again isn't true.

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version) wrote: "Ava I'm not really seeing your argument. We disproved your main points already."

how so?
please, do explain..."

it does encourage addcition, so thats true, amd yes it is true that they encourage violent sexual behavior

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming them into walls isn't literal, any person wi..."

Did you finish them?

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming th..."

yes i did amd i hated every moment

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Please provide proof for your claims other than your personal opinion, all you've done is stated that without a reason why or really anything to support it.
It does not encourage addiction, as i've already explained, and your definition of violent sexual behavior differs from a lot of people's, why should that dictate a law affecting everyone involved? It doesn't cause negative sexual interaction in real life, so truly, i don't see the harm you do.

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Tessie wrote: "Please provide proof for your claims other than your personal opinion, all you've done is stated that without a reason why or really anything to support it.
It does not encourage addiction, as i've..."

i keep trying to get the proof, but im on my school account rn, so everytime i go to a website it gets blocked
but here you go

Reading erotica stimulates the release of dopamine and serotonin, which the brain can begin to crave, leading the reader to seek out more "spicy" content to the exclusion of other types of literature or activities.

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of ener..."

why did you finish them? I love twisted love, befor etheir first sexual encounter in around chapter 20, they rarely mention sexual attraction other than physical results from being sexually attracted, for example 'my mouth dried' or 'my panties wettened'. There was a suggestive scene before that, but aside from that there is maybe two or three other explicit scenes and has a heavy external plot. There's actually an entire mystery, figuring out who truly tried to kill her and Alex's parents as well. the plot does not revolve around their sexual attraction at all, and their sex is overly consensual.

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Please provide proof for your claims other than your personal opinion, all you've done is stated that without a reason why or really anything to support it.
It does not encourage add..."

Interesting. Eating chocolate also releases dopamine and serotonin, which can lead to people becoming addicted to chocolate. Should we also ban chocolate?

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Please provide proof for your claims other than your personal opinion, all you've done is stated that without a reason why or really anythin..."

there is a difference between additcions to something unhealthy dopamine and healthy dopamine
healthy dopamine you get when you exercise, or eat your favorite food

constant, intense stimulation might lead to mild and temporary desensitization of the brain's reward system, requiring more extreme material to achieve the same feeling

[Tessie, Assistant Moderator]

Can you list or link the website you're receiving this information from?
Yes, but anything that provides dopamine can do this. If you are eating chocolate all the time, it may desensitize your brain to the dopamine that chocolate provides, until you need large amounts of dessert to feel satisfied.
too much of anything can be bad, that doesn't mean we ban it. People are alcoholics and addicted to smoking, but we don't ban those. Why? Because the people have rights. the people have rights to pornographic books if they so choose.

[Kacper]

I’m 100% agree with Tessie. Be a cigarette,alcohol addict is more dangerous than watch porn. If two partners are in a relationship, it's better to don’t watch porn at all of course. But if you are single i don’t see the problem i mean that’s a part of people life in the 21st century. Ava hate sex lol. Sex is definitely not pointless

[Kacper]

I’m just not agree with statistics i think there’s more than 10 & 3% porn addict both gender

[Hazel (my girlfriend's version)]

I don’t see why books with porn in them should be banned 😭
The only books that I think should be banned are those that depict CSA (in a positive? way)

[✧˖°. chloe ✧˖°.]

I don't think any books should be banned tbh or very very few

[Hazel (my girlfriend's version)]

bibliophile [semi ia][no longer accepting frqs] wrote: "Gonna be rly slow for a sec- what’s csa?"

Child sexual assault

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

Kacper wrote: "I’m just not agree with statistics i think there’s more than 10 & 3% porn addict both gender"

there are a lot of undiagnosed porn addcits

[soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉]

@Ava if you don't like those kinds of books just don't read them, no one's making you. some people enjoy those kinds of books and it's not hurting you to just let them read what they want. it's literally their right

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

i dont understand why people are getting so pissed at me

[soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉]

@Ava no one's mad it you! it's just a really weird take

[Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam)]

i was part of an organization, that was basically teens helping other teens with mental health issues, and one of the things that many of the teen girls brought up to me when we would talk, is that after they read a smut book, they kept only wanting to read that type of book amd began craving only that genre, and since a lot of it is an unrealistic portayal, they began getting depressed with their own love lifes

[Syd]

@soph I don’t see how that’s a weird take. So are you saying porn is good? Porn is supposed to be a bad thing, since when are people defending it? Isn’t that the reason why people with porn addictions are supposed to get help? Isn’t that the reason why there’s so many apps you can get to track and block porn on the internet?

[siera 🪷! (xlov’s vers.)]

@syd even if people can get addicted to it, it’s still something people enjoy, so banning it would (imo) do more harm than good. also, if it was banned imagine what the conditions would be for the people who act in it. people can enjoy these types of media without being addicted.

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

siera 🪷! (xlov’s vers.) wrote: "@syd even if people can get addicted to it, it’s still something people enjoy, so banning it would (imo) do more harm than good. also, if it was banned imagine what the conditions would be for the ..."

Yes, also if we're banning one type of book because it's seen as harmful by some people, that opens other opportunities for people to take advantage of the ability to ban books and ban important political ones under the guise that they're harmful.

Instead of banning the books completely, we should offer help for addicts and encourage safe behavior with those books.

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉 wrote: "@Ava no one's mad it you! it's just a really weird take"

Agreed.

The opinion itself isn't weird, you (Ava) just have very little to back it up and a lot of it is based on just your opinion.

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "i was part of an organization, that was basically teens helping other teens with mental health issues, and one of the things that many of the teen girls brought up to me when we would talk, is that..."

Then they should bring it up with a trusted adult and get help. But I'm still not seeing a reason for those books to actually be banned for the entire world to see.

[soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉]

@Syd it's a weird take to say books should be banned just because the subject matter makes you personally uncomfortable. if you feel like you have a problem you need to seek help, but the majority of people can read those books without a problem. as mentioned before, if it makes you uncomfortable don't read it. banning books is literally a violation of rights, no one should defend that

[✧˖°. chloe ✧˖°.]

I feel like they shouldn't be banned and if you know your limits you should be fine, those are what the trigger warnings are for. And if you don't like it you can just stop reading it..

[✧˖°. chloe ✧˖°.]

@Ava not meant to be rude but why would you subject yourself that makes you uncomfortable?

[Hazel (my girlfriend's version)]

If smut makes you uncomfortable just don't read it, other people and enjoy it and thats fine

[Syd]

Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyone take in something that harms them? I’ll come back later and expand on it but rn I’m with my parents :)

[victoria]

the issue isn’t just banning sexually explicit content it’s the progression. you start with sexually explicit content then anything related to sex gets banned and so on. it’s harder to ban more books if you don’t have the mechanism to ban them to begin with.

[soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉]

@Syd you don't HAVE to read it though. a lot of people can read it and enjoy it without becoming addicted, as long as you ensure you're doing it in a healthy and controlled way. i'm not saying there's no negative affects of reading those kinds of books, but i don't think they should be banned completely. dw girl there's no rush!

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

victoria wrote: "the issue isn’t just banning sexually explicit content it’s the progression. you start with sexually explicit content then anything related to sex gets banned and so on. it’s harder to ban more boo..."

Exactly

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

Syd wrote: "Porn has known effects on your brain. It’s not just that I feel uncomfortable with it, it has negative effects, why should anyone take in something that harms them? I’ll come back later and expand ..."

Then it should be controlled and people with addictions should have access to help. Banning potentially harmful books entirely isn't the answer.

[siera 🪷! (xlov’s vers.)]

i feel like porn in books and movies is a bit like alcohol. it’s unhealthy to an extent but fine if you know your own limits and don’t consume too much. and just like alcohol, you can’t ban it bc it doesn’t have a harmful affect in moderation.

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

siera 🪷! (xlov’s vers.) wrote: "i feel like porn in books and movies is a bit like alcohol. it’s unhealthy to an extent but fine if you know your own limits and don’t consume too much. and just like alcohol, you can’t ban it bc i..."

Well said!!

[Barnette ⋆˙⟡ (my girlfriend's version), Creator, Head Moderator]

We don't ban alcohol entirely, it's just controlled and limited.

[siera 🪷! (xlov’s vers.)]

and even if we ban porn, it’ll still be consumed illegally, but even more unhealthily. like how minors (under 21) still drink alcohol even if it’s illegal.

[soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉]

@Barnette, @siera, exactlyyy

[Ophelia ˚࿔]

@siera exactlyyy

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Kacper wrote: "Review Pornographic sex books about what? This kind of content are for adult +18 not for kids"

they should not be available at all
the sex is pointless"

old post i know but a book should not be available at all because it has sex? guys not even lying rn and feel free to attack me but there is nothing wrong with sex. if someone wants to write it, so be it. if someone wants to read it, so be it.

[Kanomi Okina]

Farenheit 451! I HATE THIS BOOK!

[V3NUS_ (AKA olivia) {BIG HIATUS!!}]

smut books are fine, but when it crosses into CP or other vile shit like that, that's where i draw the line
basically books sexualizing kids/animals should be banned..

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Ava (matching with the BAAAM fam) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "You consider that unhealthy? What if it is a healthy release of energy? Slamming them into walls isn't literal, any person wi..."

feel free to disagree with me but that isn't wrong. we're humans. the majority of us will feel extreme sexual attraction at many points in our lives. you can pretend sexual desire isn't there, but in the end it is still a part of us. books that revolve around that are our right to enjoy.