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message 1: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments https://srlzd.com/r/f905a8

Oh man! That was a good one! My favorite so far, I think. I’m still in shock. 🙀


message 2: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments Oh, and no “magic” in this one. 😼


message 3: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments That may be the best episode so far.
I have only a few quibbles, couple moments where RTD seems to forget how the world he created works.

Do love that he basically remade 'Paradise Towers'.


message 4: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "Oh, and no “magic” in this one. 😼"

and Ncuti was back to one of his older outfits.
RTD must have seen my reviews.


message 5: by Lori S. (last edited Jun 02, 2024 12:38PM) (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Not sure what to think.

The whole thing about total reliance on social media to function is a bit on the nose. However, we have real world examples of how people who live totally online tend to be disconnected to reality and lack a certain amount of empathy for others. After all, those people are just digital pixels to them.

My niece asked if this was a shot across the bow at AI. Maybe?


I felt bad for the star who the MC sacrificed without any sense of regret after he helped her to escape. It's not often I really dislike a DW MC like her and feel that she and her fellow "friends" deserve what they get.

In this case the Doctor "losing" the MC felt odd and weird. Not happy. The ending felt unfinished.

Why did he and Ruby choose this particular character?
What are the slug-like creatures?
What do those creatures get from eating the humanoids? Surely, their prey is a limited resource?

RE: the Doctor's outfit - I heard the costumer for the show and Ncuti Gatwa worked together on the assortment of costumes to represent different areas of the UK.


message 6: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments I wasn’t particularly drawn into this episode. At least initially. What really got me were the twists and how it wrapped up. As Lori mentioned, this is incredibly unusual, and throwing racism in the face of the audience as it does was magnificently brave. The depiction that the Doctor is brought to tears by the incident was brilliant. The death of the “star” that the MC abandons without remorse was also a really bold choice, but it all adds up pretty well, for her character. Even though it wasn’t as strong an episode initially for me, by the end I was bowled over by the audacity of the narrative choices.


message 7: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments I was impressed that when RTD decided to deal with the race issue, it was in a future episode, rather than the historical we all expected.

I like this world and what it tried to do.
Would love to see a return to this future someday.

The reveal of the evil plan is actually the weakest part of the story for me.
I liked the monsters, but once they and their 'boss' were explained, it was incredibly dumb and I was glad we rushed past it.

This may be tied with Devil's chord for favorite episode so far.

Though Bridgerton with aliens has a lot of potential.


message 8: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments This is still a powerful episode, even after rewatching it and knowing what’s coming. Actually that almost makes it worse in some ways, more painful.


message 9: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "This is still a powerful episode, even after rewatching it and knowing what’s coming. Actually that almost makes it worse in some ways, more painful."

Probably one of the best episodes of the season.
I have almost no grumbles about this one.


message 10: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments But, like, the characters were soooo, you know, annoying. For sure. Like, am I, you know, right?


message 11: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "But, like, the characters were soooo, you know, annoying. For sure. Like, am I, you know, right?"

Talking like that'll get you eaten by a giant space slug,
Be Careful, we just got you back and healthy.


message 12: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments Oh right, like, for sure!


message 13: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Rick wrote: "But, like, the characters were soooo, you know, annoying. For sure. Like, am I, you know, right?"

Remember to smile and talk in a bright tone and ignore any dangers around you.

But, yes, we don't want you eaten by a space slug. >shudders<


message 14: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments Oh for sure right you know but like what is a Space slug cuz like I don’t know


message 15: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 768 comments Mod
Rick wrote: "Oh for sure right you know but like what is a Space slug cuz like I don’t know"

Dude, you are so, like, lost in a fog. Whoa. Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K...


message 16: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments I doubt everyone is gonna get the Circle-K reference 😹😹😹


message 17: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "I doubt everyone is gonna get the Circle-K reference 😹😹😹"

'How do we know they're really us?"
"What number am I thinking of...?'
"69!"
"Whoa, it is us!"


message 18: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "Oh for sure right you know but like what is a Space slug cuz like I don’t know"

You might want to just peek through the bubble, to your right.
It's probably nothing, but it couldn't hurt to check...


message 19: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments Rewatched the other night. Still a good episode. But after you know the outcome at the end, it’s kind of uncomfortable to watch.


message 20: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "Rewatched the other night. Still a good episode. But after you know the outcome at the end, it’s kind of uncomfortable to watch."

I feel like this will have rewatchability even knowing the twist, both to see the threads there and because I think this is one of the better bits of world building in recent Who.
Don't love the racism obviously, but this perpetually plugged in society feels like the kind of commentary sci-fi that showed up in the McCoy era, like Paradise Towers.


message 21: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2261 comments Very true. Definitely.
I just cringed this time, knowing how it was going to destroy The Doctor.
It is extremely effective.
But even though the film The Power of One is excellent, I can’t bring myself to rewatch it. And even though Schindler’s List is, in my opinion, one of the finest films ever made, I can only bring myself to watch it every five years or so.


message 22: by Travis (new)

Travis (travishiltz) | 2402 comments Rick wrote: "Very true. Definitely.
I just cringed this time, knowing how it was going to destroy The Doctor.
It is extremely effective.
But even though the film The Power of One is excellent, I can’t bring ..."


Yeah, there are a couple movies where I've gone 'I'm glad I've watched. I get why it's a big deal, but I'm never watching it again.'


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