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Hiddensee: A Tale of the Once and Future Nutcracker by Gregory Maguire - December 2022
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In honor of Hiddensee I had a couple of Spekulatius cookies with my coffee this morning. Perfect.
Chapter 15 tells us who Dirk is... (view spoiler)
This story is set in 1808 and Chapter 7 talks about a visitor to the old man and woman's hut. He was writing down stories the old woman told. Could this be one of the Grimm brothers? It coincides with the timeline perfectly.
I had a lol moment at then end of Chapter 29, it is so something I would say to my boys, "And please don't shriek. Anything but shrieking. If you must kill one another, do it silently. It's much more effective that way."
Chapter 15 tells us who Dirk is... (view spoiler)
This story is set in 1808 and Chapter 7 talks about a visitor to the old man and woman's hut. He was writing down stories the old woman told. Could this be one of the Grimm brothers? It coincides with the timeline perfectly.
I had a lol moment at then end of Chapter 29, it is so something I would say to my boys, "And please don't shriek. Anything but shrieking. If you must kill one another, do it silently. It's much more effective that way."
Gem, you are speeding right through! I think I am only on page 152, chapter 57. I am reading it somewhat slowly, but think that is OK since I am actually thinking about a lot of the things while reading. This isn't one I can just read quickly and enjoy.
I noticed the reference to the story teller as well, and am positive it is a reference to the Grimm brothers, since the one that visited the hut to get stories from the old woman said he was excited to go back to town to share the story with his brother.
As for the shrieking, I laughed too. I am the same way. In fact, all the children in my life have been taught at a young age that screaming is simply not allowed as it hurts my ears so much. No kid playing in my yard is allowed to scream either. They get one warning and if it continues they must leave. I know I'm mean, but it really is painful to me.
I noticed the reference to the story teller as well, and am positive it is a reference to the Grimm brothers, since the one that visited the hut to get stories from the old woman said he was excited to go back to town to share the story with his brother.
As for the shrieking, I laughed too. I am the same way. In fact, all the children in my life have been taught at a young age that screaming is simply not allowed as it hurts my ears so much. No kid playing in my yard is allowed to scream either. They get one warning and if it continues they must leave. I know I'm mean, but it really is painful to me.
So far Hiddensee is very different than The Nutcracker. I am just now, on chapter 57, beginning to see why Dirk will be referred to as the nutcracker.
Lisa wrote: "Gem, you are speeding right through! I think I am only on page 152, chapter 57. I am reading it somewhat slowly, but think that is OK since I am actually thinking about a lot of the things while re..."
I'm cheating, I'm listening to an audiobook. I started reading it but I have two books I want to finish before the 1st, and this way I can "read"/listen while doing my needlepoint and hopefully start and finish the other book in the next few days. I read very slowly so listening helps me to get additional selections in. Sometimes I can't follow a story well with audio and miss details, but I'm not having issues with this selection.
I'm cheating, I'm listening to an audiobook. I started reading it but I have two books I want to finish before the 1st, and this way I can "read"/listen while doing my needlepoint and hopefully start and finish the other book in the next few days. I read very slowly so listening helps me to get additional selections in. Sometimes I can't follow a story well with audio and miss details, but I'm not having issues with this selection.
I don't consider that cheating at all! In fact, some books are much more enjoyable on audiobook. The key seems to be having a good narrator. I always have an audiobook going that I listen to while doing my puzzles, so I get it. Like you, I always have multiple books going at one time, but rarely have a limited time frame. I understand that yours have to do with your multiple book clubs, so it makes sense. As long as you enjoy the books, I think that is all that matters.
The Grimm Brothers are definitely mentioned in chapter 59.
The mythology aspect is interesting as well.
The mythology aspect is interesting as well.
Lisa wrote: "I don't consider that cheating at all! In fact, some books are much more enjoyable on audiobook. The key seems to be having a good narrator. I always have an audiobook going that I listen to while ..."
I really don't either. Especially with some of the classics that contain archaic language. It's much easier to listen to the book than to try to read it, imo.
I really don't either. Especially with some of the classics that contain archaic language. It's much easier to listen to the book than to try to read it, imo.
Yes, Gem! I just read that (about the man and woman in the woods) and was kind of shocked. What a twist.
I had wondered about the title from the beginning and exactly what it referred to. Could it be all his emotions were hidden from sight, or exactly what. Interesting that it is a place too.
I had wondered about the title from the beginning and exactly what it referred to. Could it be all his emotions were hidden from sight, or exactly what. Interesting that it is a place too.

Lisa wrote: "Yes, Gem! I just read that (about the man and woman in the woods) and was kind of shocked. What a twist.
I had wondered about the title from the beginning and exactly what it referred to. Could it ..."
Hiddensee is a place if I listened correctly.
I had wondered about the title from the beginning and exactly what it referred to. Could it ..."
Hiddensee is a place if I listened correctly.
Cheryl wrote: "Please tell me it's going to become more Engaging and/or Satisfying. I'm about to give up, as he becomes an apprentice to a paper merchant. I just don't care about him or anyone else yet. Seems lik..."
I listened to an audiobook version, the narrator was pretty good. It's a pretty slow book, with not much action more about relationships or lack thereof.
I listened to an audiobook version, the narrator was pretty good. It's a pretty slow book, with not much action more about relationships or lack thereof.


Don't be sorry, Cheryl! That is part of the process and reason for book clubs - to compare opinions and likes and dislikes. I totally agree with you. Most of the time I found Dirk either boring or irritating. The story itself was confusing in a lot of details, while others had me pondering if the author was referring to what I thought. Definitely not a really enjoyable read, but at the same time I liked it for its weirdness.
Cheryl wrote: "I'm not a fan of the original text or the ballet, and still I liked this less. Sorry."
I agree with Lisa, no reason to be sorry. I've learn that it's okay to not like a book, even one everyone raves about.
Breakfast at Tiffany's and Three Stories, The Great Gatsby, The Bell Jar, anything by Mark Twain, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and I'll Be Gone in the Dark: One Woman's Obsessive Search for the Golden State Killer, I didn't like any of them. Don't even get me started on John Steinbeck, I've abandoned every book I started that he wrote.
I agree with Lisa, no reason to be sorry. I've learn that it's okay to not like a book, even one everyone raves about.
Breakfast at Tiffany's and Three Stories, The Great Gatsby, The Bell Jar, anything by Mark Twain, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and I'll Be Gone in the Dark: One Woman's Obsessive Search for the Golden State Killer, I didn't like any of them. Don't even get me started on John Steinbeck, I've abandoned every book I started that he wrote.
Exactly, Gem!
We all have varying tastes, even in fairy tales, but certainly in different genres and authors. Of those you mentioned, I love Hitchhiker's and Mark Twain, but hated The Great Gatsby and Steinbeck is horrid.
So many that others rave about are just irritating or boring to me. Gone With the Wind, anything by Hemingway, and more modern the entire Twilight series are ones I intensely dislike.
We all have varying tastes, even in fairy tales, but certainly in different genres and authors. Of those you mentioned, I love Hitchhiker's and Mark Twain, but hated The Great Gatsby and Steinbeck is horrid.
So many that others rave about are just irritating or boring to me. Gone With the Wind, anything by Hemingway, and more modern the entire Twilight series are ones I intensely dislike.
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Summary
The author of the beloved New York Times bestseller Wicked returns with an inventive novel inspired by a timeless holiday legend, intertwining the story of the famous Nutcracker with the life of the mysterious toy maker named Drosselmeier who carves him.
Hiddensee: An island of white sandy beaches, salt marshes, steep cliffs, and pine forests north of Berlin in the Baltic Sea, an island that is an enchanting bohemian retreat and home to a large artists' colony -- a wellspring of inspiration for the Romantic imagination . . .
Having brought his legions of devoted readers to Oz in Wicked and to Wonderland in After Alice, Maguire now takes us to the realms of the Brothers Grimm and E. T. A. Hoffmann -- the enchanted Black Forest of Bavaria and the salons of Munich. Hiddensee imagines the backstory of the Nutcracker, revealing how this entrancing creature came to be carved and how he guided an ailing girl named Klara through a dreamy paradise on a Christmas Eve. At the heart of Hoffmann's mysterious tale hovers Godfather Drosselmeier -- the ominous, canny, one-eyed toy maker made immortal by Petipa and Tchaikovsky's fairy tale ballet -- who presents the once and future Nutcracker to Klara, his goddaughter.
But Hiddensee is not just a retelling of a classic story. Maguire discovers in the flowering of German Romanticism ties to Hellenic mystery-cults -- a fascination with death and the afterlife -- and ponders a profound question: How can a person who is abused by life, shortchanged and challenged, nevertheless access secrets that benefit the disadvantaged and powerless? Ultimately, Hiddensee offers a message of hope. If the compromised Godfather Drosselmeier can bring an enchanted Nutcracker to a young girl in distress on a dark winter evening, perhaps everyone, however lonely or marginalized, has something precious to share.