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Tess of the D’Urbervilles
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Tess of the D'Urbervilles - Introduction and Phase the First: Chapters 1 - 11
Thomas Hardy’s
Tess of the D'Urbervilles
was first published in Britain in “The Graphic”, where it appeared in weekly installments between July and December 1891. The story appeared simultaneously in America in “Harper’s Magazine” and in the “Sydney Mail” in Australia.
The newspaper syndicate Tillotson and Son had planned to publish Tess of the d’Urbervilles under the title “Too Late Beloved”, but this fell through, because it was felt that some scenes would offend readers. Two more magazines also turned it down. “The Graphic” finally published a censored version as a serial, retaining the parts they cut out, which were reinstated when the novel was published as a 3 volume book in 1892. We are obviously reading this complete version.
The newspaper syndicate Tillotson and Son had planned to publish Tess of the d’Urbervilles under the title “Too Late Beloved”, but this fell through, because it was felt that some scenes would offend readers. Two more magazines also turned it down. “The Graphic” finally published a censored version as a serial, retaining the parts they cut out, which were reinstated when the novel was published as a 3 volume book in 1892. We are obviously reading this complete version.
PLAN: Please read this comment!
Our read is different from that of real life groups, as we discuss as we go. The experience is more like the original readers had.
There are 59 chapters. We’ll begin by taking one chapter a day, but if the pace seems too slow we can speed up. The story is not complex or many-stranded, so we may prefer this option. Although Thomas Hardy’s original readers had to take 5 months over it, we will probably take 2, with an extra month for discussion and catch-up for those who need it. If you prefer a faster pace, please bear in mind exactly where we are in the novel, which you can see at a glance at the first post in the latest thread. This has links to each day's chapters added as we go. Please do NOT include spoilers; your post will be deleted if you do. There is a chance to discuss the novel as a whole during the third month.
Thomas Hardy divided his novel into 7 “Phases”. Although splitting a group read into more than 4 or 5 threads can cause problems, it seems silly not to use these divisions. Please note though that they are uneven, so the first Phase is the longest at 11 chapters, and the shortest is only 4 chapters. The Phases are named, but since the names are spoilerish as to what has gone before, they won’t be in the title of the thread, but in the first comment in the thread itself.
All Thomas Hardy’s Prefaces are safe to read, but most online resources contain spoilers. Please avoid wiki, schmoop, sparknotes etc., for this reason (unless you know the story).
Like most Victorian stories, Tess of the d’Urbervilles was not illustrated when it was printed in novel form, because it would have been too expensive. These cheap editions only had a colour frontispiece. However the original serial in “The Graphic” was illustrated every second or third chapter. I will include all 24 of these illustrations along with a brief daily chapter summary (taken basically from Litcharts - but heavily adapted and with spoilers removed!) as we go, so everyone can easily locate where we are.
I hope everyone enjoys this read :)
Ready to begin this on Thursday? Who's in?
Our read is different from that of real life groups, as we discuss as we go. The experience is more like the original readers had.
There are 59 chapters. We’ll begin by taking one chapter a day, but if the pace seems too slow we can speed up. The story is not complex or many-stranded, so we may prefer this option. Although Thomas Hardy’s original readers had to take 5 months over it, we will probably take 2, with an extra month for discussion and catch-up for those who need it. If you prefer a faster pace, please bear in mind exactly where we are in the novel, which you can see at a glance at the first post in the latest thread. This has links to each day's chapters added as we go. Please do NOT include spoilers; your post will be deleted if you do. There is a chance to discuss the novel as a whole during the third month.
Thomas Hardy divided his novel into 7 “Phases”. Although splitting a group read into more than 4 or 5 threads can cause problems, it seems silly not to use these divisions. Please note though that they are uneven, so the first Phase is the longest at 11 chapters, and the shortest is only 4 chapters. The Phases are named, but since the names are spoilerish as to what has gone before, they won’t be in the title of the thread, but in the first comment in the thread itself.
All Thomas Hardy’s Prefaces are safe to read, but most online resources contain spoilers. Please avoid wiki, schmoop, sparknotes etc., for this reason (unless you know the story).
Like most Victorian stories, Tess of the d’Urbervilles was not illustrated when it was printed in novel form, because it would have been too expensive. These cheap editions only had a colour frontispiece. However the original serial in “The Graphic” was illustrated every second or third chapter. I will include all 24 of these illustrations along with a brief daily chapter summary (taken basically from Litcharts - but heavily adapted and with spoilers removed!) as we go, so everyone can easily locate where we are.
I hope everyone enjoys this read :)
Ready to begin this on Thursday? Who's in?
Great! My experience is that at first some people may find a chapter a day a bit slow, but by the middle some welcome the slower pace - and we have great discussions this way :)

I love that already we have readers across the spectrum here. Those who have read Tess of the D'Urbervilles before, and are quite familiar with it, can recapture that wonderful feeling of their first read through the new readers. New readers, you have such a thrilling, poignant read coming up :) And you can benefit from the others' insights too, later on.
Not to worry if you can only pop in now and then Donna. I think you'll be able to locate your place easily in the discussions. It's good to have you along!
What a rich reading experience this will be for us all :)
Not to worry if you can only pop in now and then Donna. I think you'll be able to locate your place easily in the discussions. It's good to have you along!
What a rich reading experience this will be for us all :)

Oh yes, I hope so too Carolien! It's a very moving and rewarding read, so I really hope you enjoy it :)

Oh wow Karen! And what a great way to read it, in a group :)
Mine is the large print edition I put on the shelves. Just the text and preface to the 5th and later editions. I have it on kindle too.
Mine is the large print edition I put on the shelves. Just the text and preface to the 5th and later editions. I have it on kindle too.
I don't think I can do a chapter a day (so much to read!) but I do want to join in the discussions even if I'm a bit late. Tess seems to be one of those books that will probably better when read with a group.


Ah - it is available at Project Gutenberg, too.
In case anyone is wondering, "Wessex" as a county in England does not exist! It's largely located in the West Country. Thomas Hardy described his Wessex as "a merely realistic dream country", which give you an idea of the pastoral idyllic tone of his novels.
Here is a "map":

"Locations in Wessex, from The Wessex of Thomas Hardy by Bertram Windle, 1902, based on correspondence with Hardy"
and this is a good feature:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...
Thomas Hardy used bits of Dorset, Wiltshire, Somerset, Devon, Hampshire, Berkshire and even bits of Oxfordshire! All Thomas Hardy's names are invented, too. He calls that particular market town "Port Bredy" and his "Casterbridge" - as in The Mayor of Casterbridge - is in actuality Dorchester, the county town of Dorset. There's a great statue of Thomas Hardy there.
You can also visit two of his houses roundabout. (I and others have written about them in our thread "Thomas Hardy's Homes and Places he lived"). He grew up in a basic cottage where you had to get upstairs by climbing a ladder!
Here is a "map":

"Locations in Wessex, from The Wessex of Thomas Hardy by Bertram Windle, 1902, based on correspondence with Hardy"
and this is a good feature:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...
Thomas Hardy used bits of Dorset, Wiltshire, Somerset, Devon, Hampshire, Berkshire and even bits of Oxfordshire! All Thomas Hardy's names are invented, too. He calls that particular market town "Port Bredy" and his "Casterbridge" - as in The Mayor of Casterbridge - is in actuality Dorchester, the county town of Dorset. There's a great statue of Thomas Hardy there.
You can also visit two of his houses roundabout. (I and others have written about them in our thread "Thomas Hardy's Homes and Places he lived"). He grew up in a basic cottage where you had to get upstairs by climbing a ladder!
Tess of the D'Urbervilles is a great favourite of the "Thomas Hardy Society", and every year since its publication, the "Thomas Hardy players" have re-enacted the story, in live Dorset locations outdoors in the summer, using the script they used when he was alive.
The actress whom Thomas Hardy chose to perform Tess lived to a great age, and we do have recordings of her talking about it, and about Thomas Hardy too.
We're starting this tomorrow YAY!
The actress whom Thomas Hardy chose to perform Tess lived to a great age, and we do have recordings of her talking about it, and about Thomas Hardy too.
We're starting this tomorrow YAY!
Just a note that the summary will be posted by each calendar day, (with apologies to Antipodean members who regularly find they have to adjust their timings!) Therefore please only post new points about about the current day's particular chapter after the summary. Of course later retrospective posts are always welcome :)
There are LINKS TO EACH CHAPTER SUMMARY IN THE FIRST POST.
This keeps it organised, and will help anyone who may find as we read on that they are reading at a different rate, to locate where they are. Thanks everyone!
There are LINKS TO EACH CHAPTER SUMMARY IN THE FIRST POST.
This keeps it organised, and will help anyone who may find as we read on that they are reading at a different rate, to locate where they are. Thanks everyone!
Phase the First: The Maiden: Chapters 1 - 11
Chapter 1:
On his way home from haggling one day, a pedlar called John Durbeyfield meets Parson Tringham, who surprises Durbeyfield by addressing him as “Sir John”. The parson then reveals his recent discovery that the Durbeyfields are descended from the ancient, knightly d’Urberville family, which has since fallen from prominence and gone extinct. John Durbeyfield is absurdly flattered and amazed by this information. After the parson leaves, Durbeyfield boasts to a boy from town about his lineage and sends for a carriage to take him the rest of the way home.
Chapter 1:
On his way home from haggling one day, a pedlar called John Durbeyfield meets Parson Tringham, who surprises Durbeyfield by addressing him as “Sir John”. The parson then reveals his recent discovery that the Durbeyfields are descended from the ancient, knightly d’Urberville family, which has since fallen from prominence and gone extinct. John Durbeyfield is absurdly flattered and amazed by this information. After the parson leaves, Durbeyfield boasts to a boy from town about his lineage and sends for a carriage to take him the rest of the way home.
Blackmore Vale is a vale, or wide valley, in north Dorset, extending to parts of south Somerset and southwest Wiltshire. It is part of the Stour valley, in southern England, and the backdrop to Thomas Hardy's most lyrical writing about nature.
Shaston in real life is Shaftesbury. Here is a photograph of the famous Gold Hill with its steep cobbled street:

wiki image
The view looking down from the top of the street has been described as “one of the most romantic sights in England” and is often featured on calendars of “Beautiful Britain”! It's a very steep incline.
John Durbeyfield was walking between “Shaston” and his home, in the honey stone village of Marlott, which in real life is the pretty village of Marnhull.
Thomas Hardy lived and wrote in nearby Sturminster Newton for a time. William Barnes, author of 800 poems including Poems of Rural Life in the Dorset Dialect was the poet to whom Thomas Hardy felt a natural successor. He also lived in a small hamlet near Sturminster Newton.
Shaston in real life is Shaftesbury. Here is a photograph of the famous Gold Hill with its steep cobbled street:

wiki image
The view looking down from the top of the street has been described as “one of the most romantic sights in England” and is often featured on calendars of “Beautiful Britain”! It's a very steep incline.
John Durbeyfield was walking between “Shaston” and his home, in the honey stone village of Marlott, which in real life is the pretty village of Marnhull.
Thomas Hardy lived and wrote in nearby Sturminster Newton for a time. William Barnes, author of 800 poems including Poems of Rural Life in the Dorset Dialect was the poet to whom Thomas Hardy felt a natural successor. He also lived in a small hamlet near Sturminster Newton.
When the parson offhandedly reveals about the d’Urberville name to John Durbeyfield, it seems bound to cause trouble, doesn’t it? We are told Durbeyfield is a “haggler” - someone who argues or bargains over the price of something. Is he really going let this prize fact alone and do nothing about it? Especially since he has an old silver spoon, and a seal with the d’Urberville crest on it.
Already the parson seems to regret having said anything (although he had called him “Sir John” 3 times, John Durbeyfield said!) The parson admitted “Our impluses are too strong for our judgement, sometimes” and we also read that he had “doubts about his discretion in retelling this curious bit of lore”.
John Durbeyfield’s absurd excitement shows that he is a vain and rather silly man. He spends a whole shilling “one of the chronically few that he possessed” in an showy attempt at largesse. He has a feeling of entitlement, yet he has been told that the name has no real wealth or power behind it.
The emphasis on ancient names seems important, as is the comment about how the mighty have fallen in modern times. It makes us wonder where this might lead ...
Your thoughts?
Already the parson seems to regret having said anything (although he had called him “Sir John” 3 times, John Durbeyfield said!) The parson admitted “Our impluses are too strong for our judgement, sometimes” and we also read that he had “doubts about his discretion in retelling this curious bit of lore”.
John Durbeyfield’s absurd excitement shows that he is a vain and rather silly man. He spends a whole shilling “one of the chronically few that he possessed” in an showy attempt at largesse. He has a feeling of entitlement, yet he has been told that the name has no real wealth or power behind it.
The emphasis on ancient names seems important, as is the comment about how the mighty have fallen in modern times. It makes us wonder where this might lead ...
Your thoughts?



Hi Jean
Yes. The opening chapter is one that looks back much more than it looks forward. I too was drawn to the phrase ‘our impulses are drawn too strong for our judgement, sometimes.” Impulses are immediate actions/reactions. A judgement comes as a result of time, from a consideration based on something. Perhaps Hardy is already lifting a curtain to what will happen in the future is because of an event or events that happened in the past.
Thanks Keith for the information on a meaning of ‘one-eyed.’
Peter wrote: "Thanks Keith for the information on a meaning of ‘one-eyed.’.."
Yes! That had passed me by too Keith!
I'm afraid that there is a folk myth in (the rest of) England that West Country people are inbred. Maybe the rumour and prejudice isn't quite so rife now though.
Yes! That had passed me by too Keith!
I'm afraid that there is a folk myth in (the rest of) England that West Country people are inbred. Maybe the rumour and prejudice isn't quite so rife now though.

Our read is different from that of real life groups, as we discuss as we go. The experience is more like the original readers had.
There are 59 chapters. We’ll be..."
I'm starting slightly late, I think, so I'll catch up and join in then. I read it many years ago, and Jean has persuaded me to give it another go.
GeraniumCat wrote: I'm starting slightly late, I think, so I'll catch up and join in then ..."
That's great Jodie! You're not late ... we are starting today with chapter 1 (there are lots of local details about real-life locations just after today's summary) but these early chapter are quite short, if you still need a few days' grace :)
Links to the discussion will be added daily in the first comment, everyone.
That's great Jodie! You're not late ... we are starting today with chapter 1 (there are lots of local details about real-life locations just after today's summary) but these early chapter are quite short, if you still need a few days' grace :)
Links to the discussion will be added daily in the first comment, everyone.

Since it’s 40+ years since I last read the book in its entirety, it was a surprise to discover how simple Hardy’s introduction is in language and structure, whilst succrssfully planting the seed of intrigue among readers.
He really does, doesn't he David? I think Peter picked up on that too. We haven't even met the title character, but already our minds are racing ahead with intriguing possibilities.
Plus as you say, it's so readable (compared with some Victorian authors - much as I love them!)
Plus as you say, it's so readable (compared with some Victorian authors - much as I love them!)

In just a few words, Hardy makes it clear that Jack is a rather silly man, easily swayed by delusions of grandeur; the title of “Sir John”, casually bestowed upon him by the Parson, fits him like a dunce’s cap and is unlikely to improve his life — or that of the family that may depend upon him. Trouble is sure to arise.
Exactly Jim! It's a perfect first chapter.
And it's so good to have you with us too, for this read. What a treat you have in store, as a seasoned Hardy-lover :)
And it's so good to have you with us too, for this read. What a treat you have in store, as a seasoned Hardy-lover :)

I was also struck by the contrast between the "old" and the "new".
Peter wrote above that "The opening chapter is one that looks back much more than it looks forward." So much of Hardy in general compares older times in contrast to the present day (Hardy's present day).
Mr Durbeyfield reminds me a little bit of a person (in the USA) who had ancestors on the Mayflower.
You're making me laugh, Natalie, reminding me of Thomas Hardy's description of John Durbeyfield. Yes he's a real woodenhead, isn't he? I think this is clever writing, to be gently - rather than waspishly - humorous, but also satirical.
I'm looking forward to meeting his family (the title tells us there's at least one more) and wonder if they will be like him.
I'm looking forward to meeting his family (the title tells us there's at least one more) and wonder if they will be like him.


And I agree "Sir John" is very unsophisticated.
Nice, Charlotte - and Sue :)
Make sure you don't miss the introductory posts (everyone) and the names and pictures of the beautiful real life locations!
Make sure you don't miss the introductory posts (everyone) and the names and pictures of the beautiful real life locations!

And that however many times we may read a great classic novel, we can find something new every time. Even in this first chapter!


Our read is different from that of real life groups, as we discuss as we go. The experience is more like the original readers had.
There are 59 chapters. We’ll be..."
Thank you! I read this quite a while -- long, long, long ago when I suspect I read in order to be "grown up" but was too young to really understand (smile) -- so will feel comfortable as I read the selected chapters for each round of discussions. I doubt I'll have any spoilers. (ja ja)
I'm looking forward to the discussions!

Safe travels!
Have fun with all the adventures and misadventures!

1). Sir Pagan: an intriguing name. But he made it to the Battle Abbey roll. The parson's speech in the third longer paragraph of chapter one is redolent with knowledge and even passion. He seems to know a lot about local genealogy, but he reminds "Sir John" that there "are several families among the cottagers of the county of almost equal lustre". That final line gives his claim even more credence as if he's saying that you are among many great families but none have the "lustre" of the Durbeyfields.
Sir John almost instantly acts like a lord, asking a boy to send for a "horse, carriage, and noggin o'rum". He mentions his hope for dinner: lamb's fry, blackpot, and "if they can't get that, well, chitterlings will do." If you've been to England you may have been offered "blood pudding" for breakfast, which is the same as blackpot.
I am only speculating, but the first chapter seems to present us with a rather foolish narcissist of a man who is thrilled with grandeur of titles, of history, of food, or horses and carriages. I would not lend him money.
And the name Pagan gives me a little thrill. It is in use and means "country dweller". It was a popular name in the middle ages. It looks as if a city/country dichotomy is potentially being set up.
Great post Natalie!
"Chitterlings" are small intestines of some domesticated animals, and I suspect "blackpot" is what we now call "black pudding" - made of blood, as you say - and fried in rounds.
So his suggestions gradually got cheaper and cheaper - but he still was acting lord-of-the-manor in ordering them.
"Chitterlings" are small intestines of some domesticated animals, and I suspect "blackpot" is what we now call "black pudding" - made of blood, as you say - and fried in rounds.
So his suggestions gradually got cheaper and cheaper - but he still was acting lord-of-the-manor in ordering them.
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Phase the First: The Maiden: Chapters 1 - 11
Original draft. The manuscript was extensively reworked by Thomas Hardy
Here are LINKS TO EACH CHAPTER SUMMARY, for ease of location:
Map
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6
Chapter 7
Chapter 8
Chapter 9
Chapter 10
Chapter 11