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message 1: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
from the Chat thread - please add your favorite titles here...

I've not finished reading it yet, but I've stopped already to catch my breath for fear of giggling too hard: The Purple Kangaroo by Michael Ian Black.


message 2: by Jenny (new)

Jenny | 722 comments My kids and I (and my students) all loved The Book with No Pictures. My 6 year old had me read it to her a couple of times, her dad read it to her (and that is an accomplishment because unfortunately, he isn't much of a reader) and she read it to herself at least 3-4 times.


message 3: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments Jenny wrote: "My kids and I (and my students) all loved The Book with No Pictures. My 6 year old had me read it to her a couple of times, her dad read it to her (and that is an accomplishment bec..."
Have you seen the video of the author, B.J. Novak, reading the book to a group of kids? Or perhaps you don't need the laughter in the video, as you've experienced it firs-hand!


message 4: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments I'm having trouble posting the link.


message 5: by Fjóla (new)

Fjóla (fjolarun) | 260 comments Not sure if this is exactly what you had in mind when referring to "metafiction", but I had shelved a number of books a little while back under a somewhat similar theme. I assembled a list of them under Picture Books That Break The Fourth Wall. It would be great to add some more titles ...


message 6: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments Great list! Yes, I believe that is what "metafiction" refers to. Thank you for that list! If I find books to add, should I do so here, or on the list itself?


message 7: by Fjóla (new)

Fjóla (fjolarun) | 260 comments If you don't mind doing so, please add them to the list. But you may also want to add them to this discussion in case other readers would like to comment on it. The lists should ultimately be a group effort, so all reader input is greatly appreciated, thanks!


message 8: by Fjóla (new)

Fjóla (fjolarun) | 260 comments And, by the way, you can also vote for favorites of your that you spot on the list already!


message 9: by Jenny (new)

Jenny | 16 comments I heard about The Book with No Pictures when helping in my son's second grade class. We requested it from the library and the hilarity ensued. My husband and I have each had to read it to the youngest a few times and she entreats the older kids to read it to her as well. She attempts to read it and is willing to make a stab at hard words since she loves the book and is familiar with it.


message 10: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments In her article, "Metacognitive books: How early should they be introduced?" Armida Lizarraga concludes that reading these books to younger kids helps wire their brains for problem solving!

She mentions Ernest, the Moose Who Doesn't Fit, by Catherine Rayner: "...the reader follows a moose who doesn't fit onto the page as he tries to squeeze different body parts into view..." At the end, masking tape and extra sheets of paper fold out a page where he can fit.


message 11: by Kanlaya (new)

Kanlaya Falletta (kanlayafalletta) | 2 comments The Book with No Pictures is the latest best book we read at home. Recommend for ages 4+. Excellent writing from the author. My children and I give him 5 stars.


message 12: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Ernest, the Moose Who Doesn't Fit is a fantastic example of the kind of book I'm thinking of. Please add more to this thread and to the Listopia, both!


message 13: by Beverly, former Miscellaneous Club host (new)

Beverly (bjbixlerhotmailcom) | 3083 comments Mod
Big Frog Can't Fit In: A pop-up book is very similar to the Ernest the Moose book.


message 14: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments Cheryl wrote: "Ernest, the Moose Who Doesn't Fit is a fantastic example of the kind of book I'm thinking of. Please add more to this thread and to the Listopia, both!" Glad you found it. Can't wait to read it.


message 15: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments Cheryl wrote: "Ernest, the Moose Who Doesn't Fit is a fantastic example of the kind of book I'm thinking of. Please add more to this thread and to the Listopia, both!"

Tried to add Ernest to Listopia, but can't for some reason.


message 16: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Well, it is already on there, Ann, so no worries.

Btw, anyone who is new to Listopia might want to be aware of one odd function of the lists. They are edition-specific. What that means is that if you are on the book page for a particular title, and you're looking at the listopias that have that book on them, you might not be seeing them all.

For example, you might be looking at the book page for, say, The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright , and not see the information that The Saturdays (The Melendy Family, #1) by Elizabeth Enright is on a certain list.

(It's set up that way so that lists can be specific to language, or cover art, or format, whatever is specific there.)


message 17: by Ann (new)

Ann Hollingworth (annhollingworth) | 21 comments Thanks, Cheryl. I trust that I will understand all this eventually! Wink!


message 18: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Has anyone read Open Me...I'm a Dog!? It looks like meta-fiction, and apparently the author, Art Spiegelman, is the same person who has done the very famous graphic novels The Complete Maus.


message 19: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Ooh, Beth, I think it would, too. I'd love to read that.
And, most interestingly of all, that's a chapter book, not a picture-book!


message 20: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
It does seem like it's easier (or more fun? or more publishable?) to do a metafiction picture-book.

But in reviews of TGGT (which btw is unfortunately not owned by my library system) there is mentioned The Neverending Story, implication being that is MF, too. I've not read it, but the blurb makes it seem like it could be.


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message 22: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Glad you liked it!

A book that might be best classified as YA that is one of my very favorites also breaks the fourth wall - consider The Princess Bride, especially that anniversary edition with even more 'backstory' and notes about 'S. Morgenstern.'


message 23: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Thanks - I agree we should add to all 'themes and topics' threads whenever we can.


message 24: by Jenny (last edited May 31, 2015 09:11PM) (new)

Jenny | 722 comments Cheryl wrote: "from the Chat thread - please add your favorite titles here...

I've not finished reading it yet, but I've stopped already to catch my breath for fear of giggling too hard: The Purple Kangaro..."</i>

We just read this ([book:The Purple Kangaroo
tonight, Cheryl. My kids and I loved it. As soon as I finished, my 6 yo asked if the author/illustrator has written more books about the monkey or the purple kangaroo...or even just any other books. I am going to do a library search in just a moment to see what else I can find. It was a hit.



message 25: by June (new)

June (june_krell) | 121 comments Jenny wrote: "Cheryl wrote: "from the Chat thread - please add your favorite titles here...

I've not finished reading it yet, but I've stopped already to catch my breath for fear of giggling too hard: The..."</i>

My son loved his [book:Chicken Cheeks
Which he thought was an absolute blast! Who knew there were so many names for bottoms? My sons also loved following the ants.



message 26: by Jenny (new)

Jenny | 722 comments Thanks for the recommendations, June. I have put them on hold at the library. :)


message 27: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Last week I was killing time in a tiny library in Yreka CA and they had Blue Chicken by Deborah Freedman. It's hard to tell from the thumbnail of the cover, but this is a very cute and funny example of this kind of book. I wish I'd been able to check it out and spend more time with it.


message 28: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
They also had This Book Just Ate My Dog! by Richard Byrne which takes the concept even further by involving the reader in the plot. It's a bit like Press Here and others by Hervé Tullet but it actually has a story!


message 29: by Manybooks, Fiction Club host (last edited Jun 21, 2015 07:02AM) (new)

Manybooks | 13765 comments Mod
Aside from the The Neverending Story, another German book that deals with books and people getting themselves lost in books (which I have not yet read), is The City of Dreaming Books (and its sequels).

And in the Neverending Story, Bastian is the main character, and he is basically transported to Fantastica in order to save the realm of imagination, which he almost fails to do (the movie really only shows the first part of the novel).


message 30: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
Just a reminder to add books to this thread and to the Listopia as you read them. They do surely seem to be in fashion these days. https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/8...


message 31: by Cheryl, Host of Miscellaneous and Newbery Clubs (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) | 8581 comments Mod
The Scariest Kitten in the World is also meta, funny, and it shows my favorite theme, Another Point of View. I gave it four stars.


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