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message 1: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (last edited Jul 08, 2022 12:24PM) (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11184 comments Mod
It's now time to get ready to vote for our first set of prompts! The thread will be open for at least 24 hours before the poll gets posted. This is a good opportunity to ask any question you may have regarding the prompts, do some research, or ask for recommendations.

Voting will open in the afternoon of Friday, July 8 and results will be posted in the morning of Tuesday, July 12 (CST time).

How it works:
- When the voting opens, follow the link to the mini-poll that will be added at the end of this post
- You have a total of 8 votes this poll to spread across your favorite and least favorite prompts (you can also use less than 8 votes)
- You can find examples of acceptable voting practices on the Introduction thread.
- The prompts with the more favorable votes (comparing top votes to bottom votes, and looking at the overall number of votes it received) will be added to the final list

We are asking people to include their Goodreads profile address when they vote. To find this, just go to your own profile and then copy the URL/web address. If for some reason you can't link to your Goodreads profile, please post your full Goodreads name with enough identifiable information that we'll be able to access your profile. We’ve introduced this for two reasons:

1. On a few occasions in each poll, people have used more than the allotted number of votes, either because they aren’t familiar with the rules or just by mistake. When this happens our only option is to disregard the vote as we can’t identify the voter to ask them to resubmit. By asking for your profile address we’ll be able to message you and ask you to vote again if you’ve accidentally used more than the allotted number of votes.

2. Unfortunately a very small number of people have voted more than once per poll and so we are asking for this information to prevent duplicate votes.

As a reminder: You have a total of 8 votes to use among your top and bottom votes. The mods have access to each individual vote, so we can see if you use more than 8 votes. If you use more than 8 votes in the poll, your vote will have to be deleted, so please make sure to follow the directions so your voice can be heard.

Possible Prompts:
1. A book set in a location that begins with A, T, or Y
2. A book connected to birds, bees, or bunnies
3. A book with a two or three word title
4. A science fiction or fantasy novel written by a woman
5. A book with a cat in the story, title or cover
6. A book recommended on Goodreads
7. A nonfiction nature book
8. A book with a color in the title or author’s name
9. A book that’s mentioned in the Rory Gilmore Book Challenge
10. A book with an alliterative title
11. A book involving an "ism"
12. A book by an author with three names printed on the cover
13. A book with a title beginning with W
14. A book related to dreams or dreaming
15. A book involving genetics, genealogy, traits, heredity, heritage

Feel free to discuss the prompts below, but please remember to be respectful to the other group members.

VOTE HERE: https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/FPPKF6/


message 2: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (last edited Jul 07, 2022 04:04PM) (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11184 comments Mod
IDEAS AND NOTES FROM THE SUGGESTIONS THREAD

1. A book set in a location that begins with A, T, or Y
This could be fiction or non-fiction city, state, province, region, place name, environment, geographical site, school, locale, era, ship, etc.
It can easily be applied to fantasy or science fiction – name of planet, spacecraft, fantasy world, imaginary place name, society, social environment, etc.

In addition to all the real countries, states/provinces/regions, and cities starting with the letters, the following places do as well.

Avalon/Tintagel
Atlantis
Asgard
Alagaesia (Eragon)
Annexia (Naked Lunch)
Amity Island (Jaws)
Arrakis (Dune)
Ankh-Morpork (Discworld)
Arkham, Massachusetts (H.P. Lovecraft)
Avonlea (from Anne of Green Gables)

Themyscira (Wonder Woman's home island)
Treasure Island
Tsalal (used by Edgar Allen Poe and Jules Verne)

Yew (from an L Frank Baum story)

2. A book connected to birds, bees, or bunnies
This could be:
1) Books with one or more of these creatures (in the subject matter, title, or cover).
2) Books connected to them together. ""The birds and the bees"" -suggests pollination, eco-systems, sex education, reproduction. All together with rabbits they suggest nature, friskiness, mating, reproduction, birth, and population growth (bunnies) or decline (bees).

https://www.goodreads.com/genres/birds
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/bees
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/...
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/nature
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/repr...

Listopias:
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

4. A science fiction or fantasy novel written by a woman
There is a lot of discrimination against female authors in these genres in particular, as it has been historically considered a genre written by men for men. Only about a third of SFF authors are female. Often, female authors publish under pseudonyms or use initials in lieu of their first names to avoid this bias, as to this day it continues to effect sales.

For a (too long to list here) list of female fantasy/sci-fi authors, please see this comment and this comment.

5. A book with a cat in the story, title or cover
Title
The Travelling Cat Chronicles by Hiro Arikawa The Cat in the Hat (The Cat in the Hat, #1) by Dr. Seuss Cat (Wildflowers, #4) by V.C. Andrews Catch-22 by Joseph Heller People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry ​​ The Guest Cat by Takashi Hiraide A Street Cat Named Bob How One Man and His Cat Found Hope on the Streets by James Bowen I Am Malala The Story of the Girl Who Stood Up for Education and Was Shot by the Taliban by Malala Yousafzai Catwoman Soulstealer by Sarah J. Maas Catherine the Great Portrait of a Woman by Robert K. Massie Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats by T.S. Eliot Catching Fire (The Hunger Games, #2) by Suzanne Collins

Cover
The Cat Who Could Read Backwards (Cat Who..., #1) by Lilian Jackson Braun and this entire series

A Man Called Ove by Fredrik Backman Pet Sematary by Stephen King Tiger's Curse (The Tiger Saga, #1) by Colleen Houck The Psychopath Test A Journey Through the Madness Industry by Jon Ronson Beasts of a Little Land by Juhea Kim Get a Life, Chloe Brown (The Brown Sisters, #1) by Talia Hibbert

Story
A Rogue of One's Own (A League of Extraordinary Women, #2) by Evie Dunmore Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Harry Potter, #1) by J.K. Rowling Alice's Adventures in Wonderland / Through the Looking-Glass by Lewis Carroll Life of Pi by Yann Martel The Hunger Games (The Hunger Games, #1) by Suzanne Collins Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami and a lot of other Haruki Murakami books

The House in the Cerulean Sea
The Bookish Life of Nina Hill
The Midnight Library
We Have Always Lived in the Castle
Little Women
Clockwork AngelCoraline
Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine
Stuart Little
The Woman in the Window

An Heiress's Guide to Deception and Desire (A Lady's Guide, #2) by Manda Collins Mistletoe and Mr. Right (Moose Springs, Alaska #2) by Sarah Morgenthaler Born a Crime Stories From a South African Childhood by Trevor Noah Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens

6. A book recommended on Goodreads
This can come from group suggestions, recommendations found under the browse header, Goodreads Choice Awards, Readers also enjoyed, news and interviews, etc.

7. A nonfiction nature book
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/...

"Nature"" is rather broad - I've limited this list to the plants/animals/environment/biology interpretation, but you could include books about human biology or bacteria/viruses/diseases also.

The Serengeti Rules: The Quest to Discover How Life Works and Why It Matters
The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History
Remarkable Creatures: Epic Adventures in the Search for the Origin of Species
Last Chance to See
Life: A Natural History of the First Four Billion Years of Life on Earth
At the Water's Edge: Fish with Fingers, Whales with Legs, and How Life Came Ashore but Then Went Back to Sea
The Diversity of Life
The Wasp That Brainwashed the Caterpillar: Evolution's Most Unbelievable Solutions to Life's Biggest Problems
After the Ice Age: The Return of Life to Glaciated North America
A Sand County Almanac and Sketches Here and There
In the Shadow of Man
Symbiotic Planet: A New Look at Evolution
The Story of More: How We Got to Climate Change and Where to Go from Here
The Feather Thief
Where the Wild Things Were: Life, Death, and Ecological Wreckage in a Land of Vanishing Predators
For Love of Lakes
The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate: Discoveries from a Secret World
Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of Plants
The Hidden Forest: The Biography of an Ecosystem
The Once and Future World: Nature As It Was, As It Is, As It Could Be
The Tangled Tree: A Radical New History of Life
Serendipity: An Ecologist's Quest to Understand Nature
Life in the Undergrowth
The Wood for the Trees: The Long View of Nature from a Small Wood
Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds & Shape Our Futures

9. A book that’s mentioned in the Rory Gilmore Book Challenge
https://julesbuono.com/wp-content/upl...

10. A book with an alliterative title
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/9...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/9...

11. A book involving an "ism"
"Ism" = a practice/system/doctrine/theory, regarding social, political, economic, philosophy, religion, etc.

Some examples: ableism, sexism, feminism, racism, communism,, activism, capitalism, humanism, idealism, nationalism, individualism, nihilism, spiritualism, Buddhism, Hinduism

This was suggested last year, I think, but the intent was limited to social/political - I liked the more inclusive version of any ""ism"" with philosophy and religion so I'm suggesting it this year!

This wording also leaves it open to a variety of fiction and non-fiction genres.

12. A book by an author with three names printed on the cover
ie: Edgar Allen Poe, Christina Baker Kline, Mary Pope Osborne

13. A book with a title beginning with W
W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet

14. A book related to dreams or dreaming
August 2023 marks the 60th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr’s “I Have A Dream” speech.

Could be a nonfiction book about interpreting dreams or a fictional story of someone living or reaching for their dreams, for example.

15. A book involving genetics, genealogy, traits, heredity, heritage
In honor of this prompt list being for 2023, and because we have 23 chromosomes, I'm suggesting """"A book involving genetics, genealogy, traits, heredity, or heritage"""". So basically, anything to do with either the science of family, or the lived experience of family — nature or nurture.

Some books that might fit here are:

Genome the Autobiography of a Species in 23 Chapters by Matt Ridley
She Has Her Mother's Laugh The Powers, Perversions, and Potential of Heredity by Carl Zimmer
Origin A Genetic History of the Americas by Jennifer Raff
The Genetic Lottery Why DNA Matters for Social Equality by Kathryn Paige Harden
Finding Family My Search for Roots and the Secrets in My DNA by Richard Hill
Genealogy by Mae Wood
The Family Tree by S.K. Grice
It's All Relative Adventures Up and Down the World's Family Tree by A.J. Jacobs
The Milkman's Son A Memoir of Family History, a DNA Mystery, and a Story of Paternal Love by Randy Lindsay
The House of Broken Angels by Luis Alberto Urrea Sarum
The Novel of England by Edward Rutherfurd
The Two-Family House by Lynda Cohen Loigman

https://www.goodreads.com/genres/gene...
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/gene...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...


message 3: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 2285 comments I wasn't so sure about the books related to dreaming, so I looked up some Listopias:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/8...

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/8...


message 4: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments Thanks Emily for always posting the suggestions. It's not an easy job.

I'm excited about this list.

Off the top of my head, I'll be upvoting cats, dreams, location ATY, and begins with W.

What to do with my other 4?!?! I do love bees, but then I mainly read bee non-fiction, so that would also fit the nonfiction nature.


message 5: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments Also for dreams/dreaming, since it is based on the 60th anniversary of MLK's I Have a Dream Speech, you can also look to these listopias:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...


message 6: by dalex (last edited Jul 07, 2022 04:51PM) (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments I was hoping this information would be included in the voting information but it wasn’t so here it is again.

Worlds Without End is a website that encourages reading genre fiction by female author and runs a yearly challenge for participants to focus on female authors. They have two great resources for the "A science fiction or fantasy novel written by a woman" prompt:

Award Winning Books by Women Authors
https://worldswithoutend.com/lists_wo...

All Women Authors [in the Worlds Without End database]
https://worldswithoutend.com/authors_...

These lists are much more extensive than the lists provided in the suggestion thread. There are so many female authors of sci-fi and fantasy.

ETA: Worlds Without End covers genre fiction (sci-fi, fantasy, horror) so some of these authors write horror rather than sci-fi and fantasy. Still, there are multiple hundreds of authors to choose from!)


message 7: by NancyJ (last edited Jul 07, 2022 04:54PM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3532 comments Emily, Here is the listopia for Science Fiction books by Female authors. I posted it earlier but it got lost in the larger discussion.

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/6...


message 8: by Martha (last edited Jul 07, 2022 04:56PM) (new)

Martha (marthag503) | 513 comments Regarding the prompt related to I Have a Dream, if this prompt gets in I will likely choose a book based on a theme of not giving up on the future (fall of democracy, climate crises, etc) with the emphasis on dreaming about a future that isn't unjust or unsustainable. I looked for a list and this one sort of fits my direction: https://ideas.ted.com/70-books-to-mak...

I liked this list too: https://bookriot.com/hope-books/


message 9: by Jillian (new)

Jillian | 2873 comments Hmm not sure how I’m going to use my votes this round. I have two for sure up votes and 1 down vote.


message 10: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1832 comments Dang, I have 7 upvotes right now. I don't want to downvote anything and there's not another I want to upvote at the moment so it may just be 7 this time. I'll wait to see more discussion though.

Lots of title prompts this time!

Dumb question but for author with 3 names on the cover, I assume that will be reworded to just author with 3 names? "On the cover" is pretty much a given with an author's name.


message 11: by Bec (new)

Bec | 1337 comments Just confirmation of this one.......8. A book with a color in the title or author’s name

So is it like the title could contain blue - Like Twice in a blue moon? Or the author is called John Green?


message 12: by °~Amy~° (last edited Jul 07, 2022 06:21PM) (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) Nancy wrote: "Dumb question but for author with 3 names on the cover, I assume that will be reworded to just author with 3 names? "On the cover" is pretty much a given with an author's name.

L..."


My thought when I suggested it is that someone would say that most authors have three names ( First, Middle, Last), they just choose to only put first and last on the book, therefore, every author fits. Technically true, but not the point of the prompt.


message 13: by Sue (new)

Sue | 98 comments What a terrific group of prompts!


message 14: by Ann (new)

Ann S | 624 comments What if you really, really, really despise science fiction and fantasy? I guess it could be where you use your wild card. Or what about reading a book with the word fantasy or science in the title. Cheating?


message 15: by NancyJ (last edited Jul 07, 2022 07:18PM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3532 comments For Birds Bees Bunnies - The Birds, The Bees, and You and Me (fiction) caught my eye. (I did something similar when I was 16.)

I have some picks for Bees and bunnies left from last year. This year I'm also really drawn to the Birds titles and gorgeous covers, as well as content.
Birds on the cover: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

Does anyone have a good list with Rabbits/bunnies on the cover? I found one but it seemed like it was mostly children's books.

For those who would rather go for a bigger picture topic such as reproduction, the infertility page also has some interesting fiction (I liked What Alice Forgot, and the Children of Men). Or you could take a friskier approach. 😉

There is a little overlap between this prompt and non-fiction nature. I like both.


message 16: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (anastasiaharris) | 1730 comments @Ann S, it is your challenge. No one is going to police how you interpret a prompt. The point of this group is to enjoy reading.

At this stage you can down vote the prompt and worry about interpretation later. It has not been voted in yet ;) You can advocate for another prompt so this one gets less votes as well.


message 17: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (anastasiaharris) | 1730 comments I am glad that I read the discussion or would not have realized that the dream prompt was related to the "I have a dream" speech. If it does not make b it this time, maybe include that in the prompt.
If it makes it through I will BIO it so that it is closely related to the speech.


message 18: by NancyJ (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3532 comments Emily, for the Dream prompt, can we keep an MLK reference in the prompt? Or mention him in the weekly thread? I think I might want to read a follow up to his dream.

I highly recommend The Lathe of Heaven for a book about powerful dreaming.


message 19: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (michellereading) | 102 comments Thank you to everyone who has found all the wonderful listopias to flesh out my dream prompt idea. I have no idea how to find them - not sure if it is something you can do on the app. There were some great lists! 😀


message 20: by Pam (new)

Pam (bluegrasspam) | 3839 comments Bec- yes, that is the correct interpretation.


message 21: by Shannon SA (last edited Jul 07, 2022 10:36PM) (new)

Shannon SA (shannonsa) | 673 comments This list of fantasy books by women was on the Women's Prize for Fiction newsletter today. (Just 5 books.)

https://www.womensprizeforfiction.co....


message 22: by Bec (new)

Bec | 1337 comments Pam wrote: "Bec- yes, that is the correct interpretation."
Thanks


message 23: by Lindsay (new)

Lindsay Kelly | 286 comments Here's a Goodreads lists for the Rory Gilmore Challenge:
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...


message 24: by Perri (new)

Perri | 886 comments If bunny sneaks in this way, I'll be so happy :)


message 25: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Pereira (babitix) | 983 comments I’m definitely in for 01, 02 and 09! Someday I will finish Rory Gilmores Challenge


message 26: by Conny (new)

Conny | 646 comments Spontaneous possible upvotes:

1. A book set in a location that begins with A, T, or Y
3. A book with a two or three word title
4. A science fiction or fantasy novel written by a woman
8. A book with a color in the title or author’s name
10. A book with an alliterative title
13. A book with a title beginning with W
14. A book related to dreams or dreaming
15. A book involving genetics, genealogy, traits, heredity, heritage

Out of these, I really hope the genealogy prompt gets in this time around. I always like prompts that are somehow a nod to the current year or this group, hence the upvotes for prompts 1, 3, and 13.
I read tons of books by women, which is why I'm always surprised that so many prompts specify "written by a woman". I get that it refers to discrimination issues that are historical and on a scale that an average reader may not even notice, but I personally have never felt that the amount of male authors on my TBR was in any way disproportionate to the amount of female authors. It's more the other way around, and I am not making a conscious effort to read more books written by women, I just happen to do just that^^

I'm not a big fan of the Rory Gilmore challenge because it basically just contains the same books that come up again and again on various "100 books you should read" lists, plus some obscure nonfiction that I'm not really into. I used up both my only bee and my only cat book this year, so not too sure about those (I always try to decimate my existing TBR to the greatest possible extent). And as an avid fiction reader, I always struggle with nonfiction prompts; not so much because I would never read them (I do read the occasional nonfiction, but it's a different reading experience for me, more like education than indulging in a favorite pastime) but because it would actually require me to get new books because my TBR can't supply them.


message 27: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments Bit disappointed the genetics prompt has been resubmitted with no change to the wording. I'd love a genetics prompt with the connection to 23, but I don't know, isn't every book a book that involves traits? I know it has a specific genetics definition but it also it just a word to describe the characteristics of someone or something. And heritage has so many uses, at least in the UK where English Heritage is an organisation that looks after historic buildings, you can eat "heritage tomatoes" and visit a heritage centre which will cover anything and everything relating to the area.

I already feel that genetics and genealogy are two separate areas, but I understand smooshing them into one prompt for those averse to science. I dunno, I just don't like that wording enough to vote for it.


message 28: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments Ann wrote: "What if you really, really, really despise science fiction and fantasy? I guess it could be where you use your wild card. Or what about reading a book with the word fantasy or science in the title...."

You seem to have a couple of SFF books on your want to read list though?


message 29: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments For nature writing, the Wainwright Prize always has a bunch of interesting books. I fear it has no chance of getting voted in but that will instantly go on my rejects-that-i-never-get-round-to list!

https://wainwrightprize.com/


message 30: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments NancyJ wrote: "Does anyone have a good list with Rabbits/bunnies on the cover? I found one but it seemed like it was mostly children's books...."

I added a bunch to this list, rather than creating a new one: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...


message 31: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I definitely want bunnies and cats. I’m tempted to vote sci fi and fantasy by a woman, largely because I would hate it to then be resubmitted with only sci fi as an option


message 32: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I will also upvote:
Two or three word title
Location A, T or Y
Rory Gilmore reading
Ism
My only downvote will non fiction nature because it’s not a genre I like and non fiction stops being creative


message 33: by dalex (last edited Jul 08, 2022 04:09AM) (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Ann wrote: "What if you really, really, really despise science fiction and fantasy?"

Sci-fi and fantasy have hundreds of subgenres so I am quite certain you can find something you would like.

For example, the super popular Outlander counts as sci-fi because it has time travel but it reads like a historical romance. Magical realism is contemporary fiction with just a twist of the fantastical; Sarah Addison Allen and Alice Hoffman are well known authors of magical realism.

The Golem and the Jinni is fantasy but seems more like historical fiction. Mythology retellings often are like historical fiction but count as fantasy; The Song of Achilles is fabulous.

Two books that I would highly recommend - The Unseen World by Liz Moore and Migrations by Charlotte McConaghy. The Unseen World is basically a family story but there's some bits about artificial intelligence and the last chapter or so is set in the future so it counts as sci-fi. Migrations reads like contemporary fiction but is set in the near future so it's sci-fi.


message 34: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Here is a lengthy post I wrote when the rabbit post came up for voting last year:

A few books with "rabbit" in the title.

Black Rabbit Hall
The Last Days of Rabbit Hayes
Rabbit Cake
When God was a Rabbit
The Rabbit Back Literature Society
Rabbit Hole
The Rabbit Factor
The Constant Rabbit
The Rabbit Girls
The Night of Four Hundred Rabbits
When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit
To Catch A Rabbit
Rabbit Foot Bill
Bunny

One of the main characters in The Secret History (which is a fabulous book) is named Bunny.

There's more than a few books with rabbits on the cover.

And then there's Fibonacci. The original problem that Fibonacci investigated was about how fast rabbits could breed in ideal circumstances. The solution to this problem is the famous Fibonacci sequence so you could go sideways and do something related to Fibonacci.

The design of a lot of nature things is based on the Fibonacci Sequence - trees, flowers, fruits, goat horns, spider webs, shells. A book about music would work. Piano keys in an octave are made up of Fibonaccie Numbers; eight white, five black, and thirteen in all. The cochlea of the inner ear is a spiral that follows the Fibonacci Sequence, so a book with a character that has a hearing impairment or something like that.

Spiral galaxies follow the sequence, so any space sci-fi. And there’s the golden ratio. I don’t understand it but it has something to do with Fibonacci. So, gold in the title or set during the Gold Rush or something.


message 35: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments After searching my TBR List I realize these prompts are all very very easy to fill so I am really uncertain how to vote. They're all doable but not very exciting.

I will downvote the Goodreads Recommendation prompt because I do not use Goodreads for recommendations in any form. And if, by chance, I did add a book to my TBR List based on something from Goodreads, I've long since forgotten that I did so.

I am also downvoting Rory Gilmore. It's been 15 years since the show was on TV and while I realize it's kind of become a pop culture reference it just feels outdated to me. Plus, this type of prompt has been way overused so it no longer has much appeal to me.


message 36: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Ann wrote: "What if you really, really, really despise science fiction and fantasy? I guess it could be where you use your wild card. Or what about reading a book with the word fantasy or science in the title...."

All I can suggest is downvote it and if it gets in yes WC. I emphaise as their are genres I would ahte to have to read.


message 37: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 2285 comments I think "a book related to dreams or dreaming" and "a book inspired by MLK's speech" are two very different categories.


message 38: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11184 comments Mod
Whew I love all the discussion. Sorry if I missed any links/notes in the discussion... things got a bit crazy for me at the end of the suggesting process and I must have missed copying some things over.

As for the rewording of the prompts (re: dreams and author three names), I'm not opposed to it, but there would have to be a strong consensus on doing that at this point.

I thought the same thing about "on the cover" as Amy, where most people have three names but choose to go by only two, although I do agree that the wording is clunky. What about:

A book whose the author goes by three names

As for the dreaming one, we rarely include anything in parenthesis, and we try to keep the prompts concise to the meaning of the prompt (so no extra details, like "in honor of"). That being said, this prompt, as written, is about dreams and dreaming, even if it is in honor of MLK. I don't know that it could be rewritten to include the MLK reference without substantially changing the meaning of the prompt. So I'd say that, for that one, it would need to be reworded and submitted in a later poll if it doesn't get into this one. If it does get into this one, I will certainly add the connection to MLK in the weekly thread and I can include links to examples of texts related to MLK on the weekly thread to reinforce that connection.


message 39: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2273 comments Mod
NancyJ wrote: "Emily, for the Dream prompt, can we keep an MLK reference in the prompt? Or mention him in the weekly thread? I think I might want to read a follow up to his dream.

I highly recommend [book:The La..."


We should as totally changes the nature of the prompt. so people who don't read the Wild Discussion would miss that (although I have another idea for a prompt inspired by the speech). If it began "in honor of MLK's speech....".


message 40: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (last edited Jul 08, 2022 06:28AM) (new)

Pamela | 2273 comments Mod
Ann wrote: "What if you really, really, really despise science fiction and fantasy? I guess it could be where you use your wild card. Or what about reading a book with the word fantasy or science in the title...."

I'm with you on that. I hate all "read a single genre" prompts because I either don't read that genre and don't want to here or it's a total free week. But the listopia for is like 40 pages (it makes you wish you could filter listopias for "want to read"), there must be something that sneaks in. This is a self-governing challenge, so you make the prompt work for you.


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Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1832 comments Emily wrote: "I thought the same thing about "on the cover" as Amy, where most people have three names but choose to go by only two, although I do agree that the wording is clunky. What about:

A book whose the author goes by three names"


Yes that seems better to me. TBH it didn't even occur to me that most people have three names, e.g. Stephen King's middle name is Edwin, so if the prompt was "an author with 3 names" I wouldn't use him because he publishes only as Stephen King.


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NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3532 comments Shannon wrote: "This list of fantasy books by women was on the Women's Prize for Fiction newsletter today. (Just 5 books.)

https://www.womensprizeforfiction.co......."


Thanks for posting this Shannon. How timely! And it mentioned Rabbits too. (I wonder if one of their employees is a member of this group.) The Women's Prize is my favorite award. It's how I discovered a couple of my favorite authors.


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°~Amy~° (amybooksit) Emily wrote: "Whew I love all the discussion. Sorry if I missed any links/notes in the discussion... things got a bit crazy for me at the end of the suggesting process and I must have missed copying some things ..."

I am fine with "A book whose the author goes by three names". I didn't like the original wording when I was suggesting it.


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°~Amy~° (amybooksit) I like 12 of the 15 prompts. The other three I could manipulate to work if I needed to. Narrowing down to my top 8 favorites could be difficult.

Honestly, if voting weren't so much fun I'd say let's just add all of these to the final list and have 1/3 of the challenge prompts done! lol


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Tracy | 2978 comments Ellie wrote: "Bit disappointed the genetics prompt has been resubmitted with no change to the wording. I'd love a genetics prompt with the connection to 23, but I don't know, isn't every book a book that involve..."

Hi Ellie. I hope I'm understanding your comments correctly. My original explanation for this prompt was that it had the 23 connection because we have 23 chromosomes. As for the more expansive possibilities beyond genetics, I know not everyone is interested in reading about that science, so I broadened it to include ideas related to genetics. RE: the 'traits' idea — that was inspired by Edward Rutherfurd's books. If you aren't familiar with him, he writes historical fiction taking place in a certain location over hundreds of years. His characters are all ancestors within a few families, and you can usually track the family members because they have certain traits that follow the family through the centuries: a distinctive nose, a mean demeanor, etc.

I didn't reword the prompt when I suggested it again because I didn't read any comments that the wording was the issue. It just seemed that we had a lot of popular suggestions in Poll1. If you have an idea about how to reword it, I'm happy to consider it.


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Beth | 450 comments I'm also not a reader of sci-fi and fantasy. When prompts like that come up I usually go for the mildest possible form like a book with a hint of magical realism.

From this group of prompts I think involving an 'ism' is my favourite. It feels a bit more unique to other suggestions and I'm always looking for prompts to help me read more non-fiction. I also like the location beginning with A/T/Y.


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Shannon SA (shannonsa) | 673 comments Tracy wrote: "Ellie wrote: "Bit disappointed the genetics prompt has been resubmitted with no change to the wording. I'd love a genetics prompt with the connection to 23, but I don't know, isn't every book a boo..."

This is why I enjoy the discussions - I have 3 Edward Rutherfurds on my TBR, but without this discussion I would never have connected his books to the genetics suggestion. I loved his novel London, where a family trait is shared down through the centuries. Am upvoting this now :)


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Edie | 1143 comments Emily wrote: "IDEAS AND NOTES FROM THE SUGGESTIONS THREAD

1. A book set in a location that begins with A, T, or Y
This could be fiction or non-fiction city, state, province, region, place name, environment, geo..."


Emily... This summary of the options does not include #8... would you please add it to this summary? Thanks.


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Edie | 1143 comments dalex wrote: "After searching my TBR List I realize these prompts are all very very easy to fill so I am really uncertain how to vote. They're all doable but not very exciting.

I will downvote the Goodreads Rec..."


This is why I read comments before I vote. Generally I am not a fan of pop culture tie-ins... and I have never heard of Rory Gilmore Now that I have, I will also down-vote this one... but not the Goodreads recommendation.


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Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments @Tracy I didn't want to be negative in the first poll and wasn't really expecting it to be submitted immediately. I mentioned it in the wild discussion as did someone else but I guess that got missed.

Would your example not count under genealogy? I'm not downvoting yours, but I would like to vote for a more focused prompt.


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