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Continuing Buddy Read of the Lord Peter Wimsey stories by Dorothy L. Sayers, with Adrian
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Aug 12, 2023 10:37AM

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Al I would say is that the first two sequels had a big input from DLS in the form of manuscripts that were found after her death.
Rosemarie wrote: "I've never been to London, or England either, but I love visiting Berlin."
So do I Rosemarie, although from England to Berlin is not as far as you travel. You will have to visit England one day !!

I have to agree, she always does her research so well, previously we also had the advertising agency where again she knew all the ins and outs.
Lynnie wrote: "I would like to continue with the Jill Paton-Walsh books as I'm not ready to give up Peter and Harriet yet. If nobody else is interested maybe this thread could be kept open anyway? ..."
Well I was going to carry on myself anyway as I have the books, and as you say Lynnie, I want to learn more about their lives together

Good , good. as I said above, I was intending to continue on my own if need be, but it looks like I shall have company, excellent.
I'm sure Jean will not mind leaving this thread going for a few more months.

No problem Michaela, thanks for being with us over the last 18 months or so. As I've said before if we all liked the same things this world would be very boring !!

I've just read the 2nd story in In the Teeth of the Evidence - another intriguing little story.

No problem Michaela, thanks for being with us over the last 18 months or so. As..."
Thanks for leading these discussions, Adrian! :)


You're welcome Michaela. I have to admit my contribution was intermittent at times when I was out of the country , but I hope you have enjoyed the books, even if they have not always been to your taste.

Ellen wrote: "Just started In the Teeth of the Evidence today. I do plan to read all the stories not just the 2 with Lord Peter."
I will also be reading all the short stories in In the Teeth of the Evidence and then for September we will reading Striding Folly which again is a mixture of short stories.


And now I'm on to Striding Folly which is more short stories . That said , there are only 3 and all are Lord Peter stories. It also includes an intro to LPW and his creator by Janet Hitchman who was herself an author. She (Janet) was born in 1916 and had an unbelievably hard early life when her father was killed in WW1 when she was just 3 months old.
So onto Striding Folly and I hope we all enjoy it more.

In the Teeth of the Evidence - I enjoyed the LPW stories and thought the Montague Egg ones were fun. The stand-alone stories reminded me of the Inside No9 tv series with their black comedy. I particularly liked The Milk-Bottles and The Inspiration of Mr. Budd. I rated this book 4 stars.
Striding Folly - it was okay. The best part of the book for me was the piece by Janet Hitchman which I found very interesting. I rated this book 3 stars.
Adrian - Thanks for that snippet about Janet Hitchman.
Ah, it's sad to come to the end but I'm looking forward to continue with the Jill Paton-Walsh books.
Also - just realised that I missed out Murder Must Advertise so might try and squeeze that in first!!

Did anyone else notice the very brief unnamed cameo appearance of Harriet? I thought it was lovely.


So many thanks to all of you that have journeyed with us so far, and also to those continuing into the Jill Paton Walsh Lord Peter and Harriet books. The first two of which, were based on manuscripts and ideas left behind after the sad demise of Dorothy L Sayers.
If people want a break to draw breath or catch up, let me know, otherwise we can dive straight into another full length story Thrones, dominations / Dorothy L. Sayers and Jill Paton Walsh.
Apologies for any typos, a kindle fire and intermittent wifi does not make it easy

Did anyone else notice the ver..."
Well i'm glad you managed to catch up Lynnie. And no, i don't think i did notice the cameo from Harriet. That said my brain has been mush for the last couple of months 😁

I have to say, i thoroughly enjoyed it, and couldn't tell at all it was a collaboration. I will be interested to see what other people think of the novel and its genuiness.
It picks up soon after the events of Busman's Honeymoon with Peter and Harriet settling into married life in London and all that entails. There are also some wonderful diary entries from the dowager Duchess .
I look forward to your thoughts.

I'm hoping to start next week, it's been on my tbr for ages so I'm really glad that we are continuing here.

Then I hope you enjoy it as well Ellen. I felt is both a good book, and quite a genuine DLS.

I hope you're enjoying it as well Lynnie


Thats a really good point Ellen, I hadn't really thought about Bunter (How could I forget him ?? ).
Having never read a JPW Lord Peter novel, these are all new to me. It will be interesting to see if they get progressively less like DLS when they are not based on any notes etc she left behind.
I will be starting on A Presumption of Death in the next few days.
Are we all ok to keep going at one per month or does anyone feel the need for a month's grace ??

I am good with starting A Presumption of Death in November.


I started A Presumption of Death last week and I have to say, I am again very impressed by its similarities to a Dorothy L. Sayers written novel.
I am really enjoying it so far !

Anyway, enough of the weather. With packing tidying and sorting for our house move well under way despite losing our buyer (grrr) I seem not to have read much at all this month and so I am only half way through A Presumption of Death.
How is anyone else progressing and any thoughts ? I still think it is very much like a DLS novel in its writing style but look forward to others opinions.

I thought Thrones was the most like DLS but I did feel there was a spark missing between Peter and Harrriet. I missed Bunter too, he was replaced in the sleuthing by Mango, Harriet'a maid. I felt that JPW was more confortable with writing the female characters.
Presumption was very Harriet-centric. I did read somewhere a suggestion that had DLS continued with the series she would have had Harriet centre stage as her last two novels featured her a lot more. I enjoyed the letters a lot as they were from The Wimsey Papers. I still felt the spark and with was missing between H & P.
However, I'm still not ready to leave them yet and have jumped straight in to The Attenbury Emeralds - I am curious about that first case!


I'm looking forward to reading everyone's thoughts!


I couldn't help myself and continued on with The Late Scholar, I couldn't let Peter and Harriet go. I enjoyed this one and will wait to see other people's thoughts.
Overall I did enjoy these continuations (with a few niggles) but glad I read them. I liked Thrones, Dominations the best.

Ok, lets take things in order. I've finished A Presumption of Death and thoroughly enjoyed it. It seems that we all quite liked it, which is good !!
Anyway I am belatedly onto the The Attenbury Emeralds now , which I understand has even less DLS input (if any ? ). Still, that said I am looking forward to it !

I'm looking forward to reading everyone's thoughts!"
Wow you are storming through them. I think I will be at least a week, depending on how much time I get.
But I am looking forward to it !

Isn't it strange that you can enjoy a re-read more than the original. Quite unusual for me, but it has happened.
I think because I had never read any of the JPW novels, I really didn't know what to expect. That said, so far I have enjoyed them.

I had a mini slump towards the end of last year and I'm now sorry to say a month behind, so haven't even started The Attenbury Emeralds. My apologies, and I hope to start very soon 😊

Hi Ellen, I'm hoping to start tomorrow, so far behind, agh !

And yes, I am enjoying it. It starts off almost like a précis of Lord Peter's first ever case, with Bunter and Lord Peter contributing to the story as they bring Harriet up to date on what happened all those years ago. But then concentrates on the present (early 1950s) as the current mystery unfolds, apart from necessary flashbacks.

I know that some people have already finished reading all of the novels, and so I shall continue into The Late Scholar with the hope that its as good as the last



Oh no, I hope it really doesn't bomb at the end. I'm about 60% through and I must admit I am really enjoying it.

I think that is why, now I am past the middle of my life (ha ha), I try to only read what I know I will like. doesn't always work, but mostly it does.
I think you should give it a go Joan

I finished my reread yesterday. I still rate it a four which means I really really liked it. It misses being a five because in my opinion there is a little too much "lets go to lunch" in other words filler that contributed nothing to advancing the story.
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